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Originally Posted by lemons12

it takes much much much less mods on a zo6 to hang/beat a cobra..

Agreed, it also takes much less in a Z06 to beat A LOT of cars out there, (GTOs, fbodies, etc).

no, the GTO should win everytime... it is going to have the faster ET... which is what wins races, not trap... if it were trap, or a roll race.. then yes the cobra should win everytime.. but thats not the case..
dollar for dollar the cobra can beat easily..

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What? Neither car is a drag strip warrior, both cars have cases where they've done very well and also very poorly. There are plenty of ported & pullied Cobras that are running in the low 11s and 10s, if you look at the bare mods needed to port & pulley a Cobra; a GTO won't touch that performance for the money, at the drag strip, or anywhere else. You have to remember, a Cobra doesn't need headers, expensive ported heads, cam swaps, etc.

Here is a proven 500rwhp package from Stiegemeier.

Originally Posted by Stiegemeier

03 04 Cobra-500 Rwhp-the Easy Way

Stiegemeier Ported Blower, Throttle Body and Plenum 57 RWHP-$695.00
2.76 BilletFlow Upper Pulley - $150
100 mm Idler
Belt
CAI - $150
NGK TR6 spark plugs
Diablo Predator Tuner
That will get you to 500 RWHP

If you look at the eaton fast list there are a lot of Cobras running low 11s and 10s with that kinda power. Not saying it's the norm, but the capability is there and has been proven many times.

Here is a ported / pullied Cobra with a small 60shot.

VENOMOUS03COBRA in car camera 10.30 @ 134.74- Video

VENOMOUS03COBRA in car camera 10.30 @ 134.74- Video

Dollar for dollar the cobra can beat easily... when you start talking money, you have to factor in the amount you paid for the car.. you cant start talking money and say well besides what i spent for the car..
ls1s lay a smack down on almost anything dollar for dollar... i dont even have 15k in my entire car.. and i promise you i can handle just about any ported/pullied cobra,

FYI, GTOs had the same MSRP as 03-04 Cobras. The resale on GTOs is just a lot worse because they aren't as desirable. As for fbodies, a lot of us Cobra owners used to own fbodies. I could have made my fbody faster than my Cobra for a lot less money, but performance isn't the only thing you're paying for. My fbody was loud, had a big cam, gear, SRA, it burned oil, the t-tops leaked, etc. My Cobra has cats, is docile as **** with 500rwhp+, (rides like a bone stock car) has an IRS which makes daily driving a lot more pleasurable and yes it was very cheap to mod.

This goes for any car, I think the LS3 Corvette is the best bang for your buck car, not because I can build a 98 fbody for 1/3 as much or a Cobra for 1/2 as much but because it is a superior car that also performs awesome with little invested into it. It's the overall car, because in the end anything can be made fast. You can build an old 5.0 notchback for way under $15,000 and drag an LS1 up and down the dragstrip, does that make it a superior car?

you say GTO buys a built motor... that puts it in the bottom 10s..
then you start factoring in other things...
thing there is... there is more built ls1s/ls2s running MUCH MUCH faster than cobras, with MUCH MUCH less put in them..

I don't think you're factoring what a good suspension, SRA can do. Unlike in a GTO, a Mustang is a lot easier to modify for the dragstrip. You can do an aluminum block, front tubular suspension, auto transmission, solid rear-axle and a little weight reduction and have a sub 3300lb car without it even being gutted. (look up Almo's car, it weighed under 3200lbs and ran mid 10s with just a 6spd, pulley & bolt-ons). While you can make BIG power in a GTO, the capability to turn it into a lightweight drag car will cost you a lot of $$$ or require you to gut it down to nothing. There isn't nearly as much R&D in the GTO platform as there is in the Mustangs.

but your comparing it to cars that SHINE at the drag strip.. and honestly, cobras 90% of the time dont shine at the strip.. there was a pullied/exhaust cobra at the track last night and was running a 1 1/2 seconds slower than me and trapping 12mph slower than me...

I've seen it both ways, the GTO is heavier, can't fit as much tire, has an IRS and a very soft suspension. I've seen h/c/i GTOs run 12.5s@113mph. It's not the powerplant that allows a car to "shine" at a dragstrip, it's the driver and/or how well the car is setup for drag. If you look at hp & torque curves there is not a single factor that a roots / twin screw Cobra lacks to shine at a drag strip.