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i was talking more about any fbody... i never said anything about them being S/C from factory and lsx not.. i think its completely fair.. and after modding begins, in my eyes it doesnt really give them an advantage at all.. like i said, i have NEVER been threatened by a cobra.. i run as fast on motor as some of the fastest ported pullied cobras, and faster than pobably 95% of them..

What do you run? The fastest ported & pullied Cobras run deep into the 10s.

do i have a stalled a4? yes... do i have 410s on a 26 inch slick? yes.. but thats the platform im building on... so you cant say "well your more geared for that" because if people are shooting for fast times, they should be geared towards that also..

and those who are geared towards that DO run fast times.

Almo
Pullied eaton, (non ported). 10.69 @ 128.59

F8LSNKE
Ported eaton, 10.34@132

YouTube - F8LSNK SCF.wmv

YouTube - F8LSNK SCF.wmv

^ both 6spds.

it may not... but i bet the fastest bolt on ls1 does... and probably faster.. thats more what im geared towards.. could care less what gtos do honestly.. not many people race them.. this list is stock internals.. no cam no heads etc..
# RUQWIKR -------- 10.685 @ 122.91 (1.37), 01 Formula T400, ATI4600, 4.56, 3060, 03/08
# Project_SS ----- 10.866 @ 122.14 (1.45), 98 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 2840, 03/07
# Magnus --------- 10.987 @ 119.31 (1.42), 97 Firebird A4, YPT4400, 4.10, 2920, 12/04
# Skelton -------- 11.088 @ 119.10 (1.44), 01 Formula A3, CN4800, 4.10, 3150, 02/09
# 1BAD98LS1 ------ 11.089 @ 120.62 (1.47), 98 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.89, 3070, 11/07
# Hawkn01 -------- 11.256 @ 118.48 (1.52), 01 Firehawk A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3086, 03/04
# SilentbutViolent 11.302 @ 117.84 (1.52), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.73, 3128, 11/04
# V6 Bird -------- 11.322 @ 118.67 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3170, 11/02
# Matt D --------- 11.421 @ 116.24 (1.47), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.73, 3100, 11/07
# ATwelveSec02Z28 11.424 @ 119.26 (1.53), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, RAM, 4.56, 3300, 12/06

I've seen that list! Those are super light-weight cars. I was actually referring to bolt-on cars, (intake, exhaust, etc). There are light-weight pullied Cobras running deep into the 10s as well. Although not as light as some of those, 2800lb race-weights with a driver is insane.

i dont take it personal.. i dont own one.. it may be at a disadvantage.. but im not..

Not taking it personal. This thread is about GTOs and Cobras, you seem to have taken it a little personal as you've somehow associated this discussion with your own car and fbodys.

the cobra didnt come with an auto.. so i dont see it that way... if it came with an auto, that would be different.. if its that.. you could go back to the ghey argument of "what if the gto had a supercharger".... but it didnt..

True, I was just pointing what an auto does for ANY platform. I'm personally not a fan of automatic cars anyways. There are some guys on here that are though, and it does do wonders for ETs.

i believe there are more "built" cobras running sad times than the LSX bunch of any make/model..

I don't know, I've seen some very sad times from 6spd full weight fbodies and GTOs. Either car can get effected by a lot of power, street tires and a bad driver.

if they are at the track... thats what matters.. i have bone stock suspension... people would consider that not setup for drag racing.. i cut 1.5s fish tailing..

Yup, plenty of stock suspension Cobras that cut those kind of short times going sideways. All it takes is a sticky tire and a good driver.

Stock IRS, stock 6spd, stock suspension

like i said, wasnt really concentrating on gtos..

Well that's what this thread is about.

not saying you dont know anyhing.. but i took my time when modding and knew exactly what i wanted and what would run good.. it worked, and i havnt spent much money at all.. you could call it dirt cheap..
i got a brand new set of pacesetters... its not my fault if people want to spend 1k on headers..

i added springs lifters... i have an MS4.. didnt have much of a choice.. also not my fault if someone has to pay for their work..

Never said it was your fault, (lol) I was simply pointing out how 99% of LSX owners build their cars. I mean the prices you listed are beyond a stretch, $300 for a cam swap..

but that is all options.. you dont HAVE to pay that.. you can go just as fast,faster for MUCH MUCH less money...
if you want to do that why not just do this..
wheels/tires... 2k... you gotta get bogarts...
headers=700 gotta have stainless coated
intake ported fast 92/92 cause a fast 90/90 wont cut it
gotta have a catback like magnaflow or borla cause race cars run better with those than with a cutout or xpipe dumped before axle
suspension= might as well go 4link for about 6k, you might need it one day..

Those aren't all options, look at my post more carefully, I was still VERY conservative

"Intake, Catback, Tune, Drag Wheel + Tires, Suspension, Nitrous kit = $2,000+"

That's assuming you can get drag wheels + slicks and skinnys for under $1,000. Springs, a cheap catback, lid/intake, dyno tune and nitrous kit for another $1,000.

i mean come man.. not being an ass.. but those are retarded prices.. anyone that just wants to go fast is NOT going to pay that much for most of that..

Like I said, around here H/C bolt-on LS1s are a dime a dozen. I owned one, a lot of my buddies owned one, I'm not just guessing here. I was talking about GTOs anyways, if I was talking fbodys I would have brought up the cost of replacing broken 10 bolts and/or upgrading to a 12 bolt.

if you can build it to go fast/faster for half or 1/3 the money (another perk to these cars as mentioned) why wouldnt you?

Not a fan of buying shit parts, (I want stainless headers, I want a catback that sounds good) and I don't have the resources to tear down my motor in my garage or do 6 hours worth of labor to swap my headers, (pain in the ass for fbodies, once helped a buddy)