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Originally Posted by lemons12
i will say *most bolt on fbodys are in the 12s... but i disagree 100X's that most bolt on cobras are in the 11s... because of shitty drivers, no tires... whatever the case may be... i see too many in the 12s/13s with mods..
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I said most well driven bolt-on fbodys are in the 12s, and pullied Cobras are in the 11s. You must have seen a lot of bad drivers, because around here 2 out of 3 pullied Cobras will run an 11 at a track meet. Some even on street tires.
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no i dont know what the "faster" cobras can run at the track.. but i do know that the majority of the ones on here that i see... and ALL the ones i have seen in person.. run HORRIBLE times for their power levels/mods.. i have never seen one run faster than a 8 at the track.... and cant count how many "why is my car so slow" threads on here...
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Around here I have seen horrible times from fbodys, cobras, vettes, GTOs, etc..It's all in the driver and tire. I've even seen h/c LS1 fbodys that could barely break 12s. I've seen C5 Z06s that run 13s, C6Z06s that can't break mid 12s, etc.
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i can honestly say that i have a very slim idea of what a well built cobra/driven cobra can do at the track.. i do know what the fastest ones run with X mods... but not the majority of just the fast ones..
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The couple of examples I posted in this thread are far from built. Most of them were with bolt-ons on the stockor ported blower, and the 10.4x KB car is a full weight car that doesn't even have headers with a stock suspension/IRS/6spd. I was trying to give you an idea of what a Cobra with relatively simple mods can do.
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i believe/know that they can be pretty stout when properly setup... but like i am saying (trying to point out).. the majority are slow as balls for what they have.. wether it be tire/driver/car/etc.. i dont know..
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Once again, I disagree. In bolt-on form these cars don't need much to be setup other than a sticky tire and a good driver. When I see a bunch of fbodys run horrible times I know enough about them to not believe the majority run those kinda times.
Anyways, coming from personally owning both platforms that's my opinion.
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mmmmmm.. yes and know.. i could make a GTO go just as fast, probably faster.. i wouldnt mind an ls2... as long as its an a4..
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On average H/C/I LS1 fbodys outrun GTOs by a pretty good amount. The fastest recorded H/C/I LS2 GTO runs high 10s, and the next fastest one runs mid 11s, (both automatics). What does your car weigh again? You do know GTOs weigh 3800lbs.
Top NA LS2 ET's - Modified - Engine Work (i.e. Head, Cam, etc):
1) Badgto 10.96@122.7 Cartek stage 2 H/C, 3200 tc, FAST, LT
2) Open Wheel 11.526 @118.79 LPE H/C, 3.91, 3600 stall
3) YellowGTO05 11.526 @ 116.72 HPE heads, cam, LSX Intake, 3600 stall
4) jonebgoode 11.56 @ 117.65 224/224 TFS 225 heads, kooks, 3.73
5) pharmdgto 11.60 @ 120.22 AFR 225, FTI cam, 3.91
6) sjones99 11.658@117.62 240/244 cam afr 225 heads 3.91 gear k&n cai
7) Paco Loco 11.681 @ 118.70 Precision port heads, 232/232 cam kooksLT
8) miami GTO 11.731 @ 114.08 Cartek H/C
9) Jared H 11.929 @113.56 H/C, 3200tc, LT
10) profarm-goat 12.017 @ 111.70 HPE S-Cam
11) ToddO 12.030 @ 115.03 FTI Cam 228/232, TFS 225, FAST 90, Kooks LT
12) The Rock 12.04 @ 110.6 Torquer2, SS3600, SLP LT, FAST 90, CAI, 225HEADS, PP TB
13) Freedom Fighter 12.107 @ 115.70 HPE-c cam, kooks LT, underdrive pulley
14) rcsfastmonte 12.11 at 114 AFR 205 heads, 224/228 cam
15) Hawkeye 12.13 @ 113.94 MPH AZPS02 cam, FAST LSX, 3600 stall,
16) GTO1369 12.176 @ 110.15 K&N CAI, comp 224/228, dynatech LT,3400
17) 2kforumula 12.27@118 AFR225's, Kooks L/T, Fast, GMM, 03AZPS cam
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thanks for being open minded and actually teaching me some stuff while still listening to my points/reasoning.. it is nice to have an intelligent conversation with someone...
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We kind of went off track, but oh well.
