[lemons12]

You guys just keep changing your arguments around trying to make sense. Just let it go already.

no, we are just talking a variety of different things.. i think me and him both were enjoying it.. i was learning...

You put up a list of F-bodys that are fast but theyre godddamn gutted. Im sorry but 2800-3000lbs is a gutted race car. That only runs 10.60's. Which is fast but not for stripped out drag car thats geared all to hell. Hell put 4.56's in a stock 03/04 and knock 700-1000lbs out of it.

the guys that are serious about it do that.. i cant do anything about it..

You throw that up there saying "these are bolt-on only or cam only or whatever only" but leave out the fact they have rediculous gears and weigh nothing.

again... cant do anything about that.. and a 3k pound ls1 can look damn near factory depending on how much you care about what it will look like... i saw one the other day liter than me that looked stock..

Why do you think the owners of those cars went through the trouble and basically f'd up good cars instead of just adding more power?

ummmm because they are dealing with N/A motors... not something you can turn up the boost on.. would you like me to show you the times of the people that "just added more power".. they are far faster than what i have been posting up...

Thats what you cant seem or dont want to grasp. Yes those F-bodys have less power. Yes they run with or better than alot of modded Cobras. But they weigh goddamn 700-1000lbs less!!!!!!!!!!!

again, that doesnt mean anything to me.. i wouldnt be bitching if you posted up a cobra with weight reduction.. and im not bitching that a cobra can use a blower from the factory... the weight is there to be taken out.. why not use it to an advantage?

Come on dude. You cant be that brand loyal. The cobra is a badass machine and you know it. From one car guy to another and with all respect.

yes it is.... but most do not perform for what i consider impressive... usually far under that..

And yalls prices for mods are stupid. Youre either buying used or shitty parts. And you arent doing it "right". You can throw some crap on a car and make it fast but how long will it last?

did you miss the part where i said it was DIRT cheap to mod an ls1? some of my parts are brand new, some used... my entire setup has been done "right".. i have 15k HARD miles on my setup.. and quite a few track visits...
has been an awesome DD with ZERO problems for 1 1/2 years..

Ive had a couple buddies with LS1's and Cobras that blew their shit up because they saw some moron on the net that" had the same setup and hes running fine". Yeah right now he is. By that I mean junk parts. ie.. $400 N2O kits and shit.

just because your buddies are ****ing morons, doesnt mean i am... my shit is set up correctly.. i havnt one time called your car a POS or anything close to it... you can come look at my car and tell me how "shitty" my brand new heads are or how my converter locks up at 40mph cuts 1.5s N/A and flashes to 4400rpms or my exhaust that sounds like sex or my brand new pushrods and springs that are supporting a .650 lift cam..
If you actually put a used up $400 N2O kit on your car you should be shot.

Hell I got beat by my friends LS1 when I was at 440rwhp and he was on a 100-125 shot(so he said). I got pulled 2-3 cars on the highway. 2 weeks later he blew his engine. He was pumping Nitrous threw the MAF with no tune. Because he saw some guys on the net doing it.

again.. just because your friends with ls1s are dip shits... doesnt mean i am.. i have beat MANY cars and my car hasnt blown up for 15k miles..