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Originally Posted by turbotron2
Can you please elaborate on this comment?
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whoever it was that i quoted says that the GM pushrod engines have more power from the factory than the ford OHC engines, basically insinuating that the pushrod engines are better because they can make more power. and i cynically, sarcastically said "oh yes, because ford engines are maxed out from the factory", which we all know is utter bullshit. i'll reference the ford GT engine, an engine capable of supporting 1,000RWHP in 100% stock form, 1,400-1,500RWHP with fuel system changes, as proof that ford isn't anywhere close to 'behind' in the engine game. this isn't mentioning the 700RWHP stock block cobras and GT500s.
i mean, no one is surprised that a 5.7l, 6.0l, 7.0l can make more power on pump gas than a 5.4l, are you???
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Originally Posted by GTSpartan
Watch some GT2 ALMS racing.
The Cammer Ford engine gets absolutely waxed by the "old" ohv C6R engine.
Currently in the n/a game, Ford has nothing for GM in professional racing. They can't even run production based engines (Grand Am, ALMS) because they would be so uncompetitive.
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poor reference. are you seriously saying that the factory backed corvette team beating the tiny tiny 'gentleman' team(the robertsons are obviously not the caliber of magnusson and the like) is proof that GM has better engines??? never mind the fact that ALMS has restricted the shit out of the doran GT-R since the very first race, while, oh look, the factory teams come out running in the top 5 with their brand spanking new cars.
as for not being able to run a production based engine and be competitive, the 5.0l cammer is running restrictor plates and the like just like every other engine on the race track. i believe i read that the koni challenge GS class mustangs are capable of ~650HP unrestricted, but are held back to like ~450HP or so. i mean, it's not like ford couldn't build a 3 valve 4.6l running huge compression to make ~450HP or so, but why? i mean, if they are gonna be allowed to run the 5.0l, why not?
besides, are you, again, surprised that a 5.7l, 6.0l, 7.0l is capable of making more power??? has nothing to do with those lil' ol' pushrods stuck in the block.
BTW, you do know that the C5R/C6R 7.0l blocks aren't production castings, right??? europeans have been pissed off about this for years, since the 7.0l wasn't a production based engine(mearly shares production architecture, just like the ford 5.0l cammer). this is the main reason that GM developed the LS7 for the corvette, so that they could be legal(ALMS/LMS rules require a production based engine, though exceptions are always made for factory backed teams), even though the LS7 is a completely different block from the C5R/C6R block.
even the 6.0l(soon to be downsized to 5.5l for whatever reason) in the new GT2 C6R is based on the GT1 LS7, not the production 6.0l like i'm sure you were thinking. the corvette racing engines are designed and built by katech. even the pratt & miller C6RS street car uses an 8.2l V8 based upon the katech designed racing block, not a GM production block. your point is absolutely moot.