that kit looks like ass. And you have no idea if you even get a supercharger whine like the m112
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F it, let the brown bagger move in Worst case you can just throw your hotdog in her hallway everyday. Not to mention You would be getting paid to lay that pipe if shes payin that month's half of the rent lol
pimpin, just keep your pimp hand strong and a bottle of baby powder in reach in case you need to and all should be good.
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They should change it from "Fing Fast" to "Blown the F up" Cause realistically, thats what going to happen when you use 6th to go Fing fast.
that kit looks like ass. And you have no idea if you even get a supercharger whine like the m112
Hey but it uses a m90. I dont care for it either but he wants a easy way to swap over....
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"A Gt is like your girlfriend, while a Cobra is that hot chick at the mall. If you dress your Gt up like a Cobra, when you're inside her you still think about the Cobra you want"
When I win I just get out the car and bust a move--->
Hey but it uses a m90. I dont care for it either but he wants a easy way to swap over....
YES...it's actually quite loud. But limited since it is only a M90. For low boost it is fine, I have one for my truck. It's actually a Magnacharger, but the kit is now made by AED.
All you really get in that kit is the lower intake, intercooler, and front pulley bridge. For $2k that seems really steep. From there you still need all supporting pieces, so when all said and done, you may as well buy a KB. I don't see where they think that's ok for an intake and pulleys(more or less). I inquired about parting a kit from them the other day, but didn't get a price. Now that I see what they want for it, forget it.
All you really get in that kit is the lower intake, intercooler, and front pulley bridge. For $2k that seems really steep. From there you still need all supporting pieces, so when all said and done, you may as well buy a KB. I don't see where they think that's ok for an intake and pulleys(more or less). I inquired about parting a kit from them the other day, but didn't get a price. Now that I see what they want for it, forget it.
do you realise all this comes completely bolt on? your going to end up paying 6000$ for a kenne bell for the same kit really and then another 300+ for tuning. Forget a kenne bell for that price. This comes completely bolt on for 4200$ with an I/c and a tune already on the chip.
...word has it that AED is no more. Why do you need a idler brace for the Tork Tech? The Cobra's, Lightnings and Super Coupe's all came with a secondary crank pulley that runs the blower. There are a couple of companies that are talking about, or have manufactured a center section/manifold for putting an 03/04 Cobra Gen II Eaton on the GT, and run it off the stock accessory belt. Here is the problem. Just imagine you own an 03/04 Cobra with a 3.2 blower pulley and the secondary crank pulley on the cobra is 7 and 3/4 inches. It will make about 8 pounds of boost with that combination of pulleys. The stock pulley on a GT is 6 and 1/4 inches. For every 1/2 inch of crank pulley you lose about 2 pounds of boost, so instead of making 8 pounds you are now at 2 pounds. If you go to the smallest 2.75 blower pulley, you only regain about 4 pounds so now you are back to 6 pounds. That is the maximum it will ever make. You cannot make the crank pulley on a stock GT any larger, because of other interference problems. The Tork Tech has it's own 8 rib system, that requires a new hood scoop (which comes with the TTI kit), or an after market hood. With the $$$ you save you can buy a Cervini and get it painted and still save money over a competitive product.
All you really get in that kit is the lower intake, intercooler, and front pulley bridge. For $2k that seems really steep. From there you still need all supporting pieces, so when all said and done, you may as well buy a KB. I don't see where they think that's ok for an intake and pulleys(more or less). I inquired about parting a kit from them the other day, but didn't get a price. Now that I see what they want for it, forget it.
Well its the first kit any company has produced that is able to adapt the 03/04 style superchargers. Plus they just became avaliable for sale. I would expect that price to drop somewhat as people buy them and the company recovers from all the money that they spent putting into this kit. Right now only few people can say they are running a cobra supercharger on their GT. That privalege comes with a premium. The kenne bell 2.1 is $5k and its only good to a little over 500whp on our cars. A ported eaton can make the same numbers.
So if you buy the tork tech kit and find a good used ported eaton for say $700, youve only paid $2700. Then all you need is a water pump, heat exchanger, mass air flow meter, injectors, throttle body, and intake. You could spend anywhere from $600-900 for all that stuff. Adding up to around $3300-3600 for the complete ported eaton setup.
If you want more than around 500whp, then the KB 2.6H tuner kit costs $5600. You would need a cobra r hood, cobra fuel pumps and tank, maf, 60lb injectors, 40 amp boost a pump, Thats another $1800 or so. Whole kit is over $7300 before install and tune. If you go with the tork tech kit you can buy a KB or whipple for $2800. The you would need all the same supporting mods as the KB kit. Then youll end up spending around $4800 for a twin screw tork tech kit unless you can find a better deal on the supercharger. To get it done itll be around $6600. So there is roughly a $7-800 difference between buying a KB or doing a twin screw tork tech kit. All just my estimates...
From what I have gathered, it would be a much better deal to go with the tork tech kit if you are running stock engine or dont really need to make 600+whp. You can still come out cheaper even if you go with a twin screw. But the question is, would you pay $7-800 just so you can have the actual KB kit or could you stand to have the tork tech intake if its gonna save you that much money? You could take that $800 and save it or buy more mods...Im just getting the KB because its huge and sweet looking, pulls all the way to redline, and guys are pushing near 650whp on pump gas with them...
One more point I should make about the TTI setup. It was built with upgrades in mind. If you look at the intake, the center section and intake runners are actually cast as 3 pieces. Then assembled. So if you want to install the kit on a 5.4L, for $189.95 you can purchase some spacer block, and it will drop onto the 5.4L. 3 valve? Buy the 3 valve runners, 4 valve...buy the 4V runners. So the next ride you purchase, take it with you. The blower becomes portable. No need to spend another 5-7K for the new blower for the new car. We all know you rarely get back what we have all invested in our performance upgrades. Something to think about...put a 5.4L in the Mustang...hmmm.
Ron, you have my email, and you have my attention on the new lower intake. Lets work something out.... I have everything needed to make it roll..... plus it'll get chromed.....
any more updates on this? I really like the idea. I have a couple more questions that a 2V kit specific, but not Mustang specific:
1) Any chance of an alternate TB-to-blower intake tube that routes out on the driver's side so the kit can be used on the 2V Panther cars?
2) Any chance of this clearing the factory hood on a Crown Vic or would it require a cowl hood on the Crown Vic, too?
3) I think I read that part of the modular intake is that it can go from a 2V to a 4V motor, is that correct? If so, I assume that if I swapped in a a DOHC 4V 4.6 that I could get adapters and in turn transfer the blower from the 2V to the 4V motor?
Thanks for the input. Just looking for some further information. And, yes, everything I have heard confirms that AED is no more so currently there is no positive displacement "roots" style blower for us 2V Panther owners and those really are a great setup to get these big cars moving without doing steeper gears and bigger stall torque converter.
any more updates on this? I really like the idea. I have a couple more questions that a 2V kit specific, but not Mustang specific:
1) Any chance of an alternate TB-to-blower intake tube that routes out on the driver's side so the kit can be used on the 2V Panther cars?
2) Any chance of this clearing the factory hood on a Crown Vic or would it require a cowl hood on the Crown Vic, too?
3) I think I read that part of the modular intake is that it can go from a 2V to a 4V motor, is that correct? If so, I assume that if I swapped in a a DOHC 4V 4.6 that I could get adapters and in turn transfer the blower from the 2V to the 4V motor?
Thanks for the input. Just looking for some further information. And, yes, everything I have heard confirms that AED is no more so currently there is no positive displacement "roots" style blower for us 2V Panther owners and those really are a great setup to get these big cars moving without doing steeper gears and bigger stall torque converter.
Thanks.
its already been finished for like 4 months lol. You can go on their site and order one.
yeah but the sad thing is your going to have to build the motor due to the compression being to high in a gt. now you can spend "4200" for this kit or just buy a votech system is much more safe on the stock compression even though if you plan on feeding a lot of boost down your tb your gonna have to build it.... oh and not to mention your gonna have heat soak just like the cobras do. now its a cool set up but you gonna be running neck to neck with the saleen and rousch blowers so once its all said and done just get a centrifugal and you will me more efficient. i have a vortech on 7 psi on a built motor with ported heads and cams and i made 420 rwhp. now my best friend has a cobra that makes 460 rwhp and he has a 2.8 upper and weight reduction and full bolt on's now he is at 15 psi and he cant put more than a car on me on his best day. so just imagine if i was to run 15 psi how bad i would beat him. come one i hope no one waste their money on this kit!
On a completely stock engine, other than good rods and pistons, the TTI kit made 420 rwhp and 440 rwhp on VP103. Stock heads, stock exhaust etc. 3.1 upper, 7 inch lower. Better clutch. At the track the 2003 GT ran against a supercharged 2006 GTO. On street tires the 03 GT ran a 13.09 at 107.96 MPH. The GTO ran a 12.46 at 107.49. The GTO had a 1.85 60 foot on slicks, while the 03 GT could only get a 2.26 60 foot on street tires. Better MPH...traction limited. Drag radials are on order.
now the only down side to doing head work on a gt with a vortech you lose your tq but you gain the hp and everything flows better. so its nice having the instant boost but i wouldnt trade my vortech for that thats for sure
Here is the latest on a Tork Tech kit installed on a 99 Saleen. Good internals, good flowing heads, headers and mild cams.
This was on pump gas. Boost levels are noted. Next week he is going to a 9 inch lower instead of the 7 inch. Pulley sizes are also noted. Any guesses on power?
93 degrees outside and 27% humidity.
Here is the latest on a Tork Tech kit installed on a 99 Saleen. Good internals, good flowing heads, headers and mild cams.
This was on pump gas. Boost levels are noted. Next week he is going to a 9 inch lower instead of the 7 inch. Pulley sizes are also noted. Any guesses on power?
93 degrees outside and 27% humidity.
Ron
Thats impressive power..whats the specs on the motor? Any pics?
yeah but the sad thing is your going to have to build the motor due to the compression being to high in a gt. now you can spend "4200" for this kit or just buy a votech system is much more safe on the stock compression even though if you plan on feeding a lot of boost down your tb your gonna have to build it.... oh and not to mention your gonna have heat soak just like the cobras do. now its a cool set up but you gonna be running neck to neck with the saleen and rousch blowers so once its all said and done just get a centrifugal and you will me more efficient. i have a vortech on 7 psi on a built motor with ported heads and cams and i made 420 rwhp. now my best friend has a cobra that makes 460 rwhp and he has a 2.8 upper and weight reduction and full bolt on's now he is at 15 psi and he cant put more than a car on me on his best day. so just imagine if i was to run 15 psi how bad i would beat him. come one i hope no one waste their money on this kit!
LOL please actually know what your talking about before talking out of your ass please. The gt stock 99-00 Comes with a compression ratio of 9.2:1, and the 01-04 come with a compression ratio of 9.7:1. Those are both PERFECT for boosted applications. So before you post please dont post false information.
Thats impressive power..whats the specs on the motor? Any pics?
No pics yet. I have asked them to send some. I saw on SVT Snake.com that there were quite a few people there watching, so I hope someone has some pictures or maybe a video. All I know about the engine is that it is stock C/R and has good flowing heads and Stage II cams. He is going to have to go to a larger injector, but even then, the shop believes it can still be done on pump gas. As far as heat soak, this is NOT a Cobra blower. It is the new Generation 5. In all the testing, with back to back to back runs, the IAT has never gone over 145.
and all should be good.
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