Well, I finished reading this thread, and a few others on different websites, and I just wanna confirm if I just bought the Tork Tech manifold, could I then buy a Whipple or Kenne Bell which is designed for the 4v Cobra and bolt it on to that? If that's the case, I think I could actually save money AND get a good blower, mainly if I went with Whipple and bought it through Hilbish or Tousley Ford!
Lastly, would my '03/'04 Cobra hood be enough clearance? Thanks!
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I haven't spoken with Ron lately so I don't know if he's done with his Gen 2 (redesign) production run. I have one of the original prototypes and I'm just waiting on my fabricator to finish up the innercooler. It's a small project for them so it's like bottom priority (unfortunately)... But, yes, when you complete, you would be able to use any blower designed for the terminator...
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It does look like you are making good progress. The kit is making good progress, and if you have been watching the results, the numbers for the Magnuson have been nothing short of impressive. The first castings of the Generation 2 have been made. We are also waiting on the new inter cooler from our supplier. Go figure.
I'm trying to get everything together so that I can use Tork Tech's supercharger-less kit so I can use the 03-04 eaton on my 2v. My question is they say I need the rest of the intake. I've asked all the people I know that might know, but we can't really find the name of it or where to find it. I know the intercooler is under the blower, but where can I find the intercooler, and the "rest of the intake." And what is it called. It's driving me insane. Thanks guys.
I wish prices on the kit would drop dramatically, if that happened I would sell my vortech right away and switch over, but just the manifold alone is soo expensive.
Monday I can't call. I have too much to get done before I go out of town, but I'm going to be calling Tork Tech when I get back. I'll let you know whats up then.
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I wish prices on the kit would drop dramatically, if that happened I would sell my vortech right away and switch over, but just the manifold alone is soo expensive.
Dude...I did not think I would find you over here. It's Cricket from MM.
Monday I can't call. I have too much to get done before I go out of town, but I'm going to be calling Tork Tech when I get back. I'll let you know whats up then.
Dude...I did not think I would find you over here. It's Cricket from MM.
Ohh hey man! Yeah I post on pretty much all the forums. I post the most here, MM, and i'm a Mod on ModFords.
Monday I can't call. I have too much to get done before I go out of town, but I'm going to be calling Tork Tech when I get back. I'll let you know whats up then.
lol just to let you know, fastspec1 IS the owner of Tork Tech.
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F it, let the brown bagger move in Worst case you can just throw your hotdog in her hallway everyday. Not to mention You would be getting paid to lay that pipe if shes payin that month's half of the rent lol
pimpin, just keep your pimp hand strong and a bottle of baby powder in reach in case you need to and all should be good.
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They should change it from "Fing Fast" to "Blown the F up" Cause realistically, thats what going to happen when you use 6th to go Fing fast.
im still interested in this, but id like to have a complete list of what exactly is needed for the swap besides what comes in the tork tech kit. Im willing to piece it together and get it going on my GT
lol just to let you know, fastspec1 IS the owner of Tork Tech.
...oh... Well then. I now need to get some exhaust work done. I had to cut off a pipe because I don't have a jack lift. So once thats all done, and my concussion is gone from my muffler cutting my head open, and knocking me out...I'll give him a call. After I get back from being out of town of course.
The tork tech kit uses a rear inlet magnuson M112 blower, and not the cobra 112. This is good, because the inlet on the cobra blower is too restrictive.
Well, just looked at their site, and see they offer it either way.
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666RWHP/674RWTQ SAE @ 19psi on 93 pump gas
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sounds like a cool kit but i wouldnt waist the money on a m112 i would just find a used whipple or kb and then you would have a nice set up
but yeah i dont know whipple never made anything for use lil 2V guys haters
The TTI was designed for the average DD that is simply looking for a 150-160 horse jump on a STOCK engine. No need to do rods, pistons, and a rebuild. Maybe that extra 2 to 2.5 grand is not in the budget.
Having said that, if they do upgrade to stronger internals, new clutch etc. some ported heads, maybe some Stage 1 cams, ok, turn up the boost. At ONLY 12 pounds the Gen 5 M112 is producing 500 rwhp.
The company got a TON of e-mails about customers wanting to use e-bay 03-04 Cobra Eatons. Made sense. So a manifold is available. But, here was the catch. The 03-04 Cobra has a separate and much larger pulley mounted on the damper. The GT's have a combination damper/pulley that is only 6 1/4 inches. No matter how small you made the upper pulley, max boost would be about 5-6 pounds. So with the manifold you need a cross/idler assembly brace and a secondary crank pulley and all the other accessories to relocate the alt. etc
The TTI kit also moves the blower forward, so the inlet is HUGE, with a smooth transition into the blower and it runs on it's own 8 rib blower belt. So what we have, is a smaller blower (1.83L) actually making more power than a 2.1L, and at less boost. Enough power to break rods, pistons, blocks and clutches. So 9 pounds is about it. Last thing TTI wanted was a bunch of engines turn into "toast".
The TTI was designed for the average DD that is simply looking for a 150-160 horse jump on a STOCK engine. No need to do rods, pistons, and a rebuild. Maybe that extra 2 to 2.5 grand is not in the budget.
Having said that, if they do upgrade to stronger internals, new clutch etc. some ported heads, maybe some Stage 1 cams, ok, turn up the boost. At ONLY 12 pounds the Gen 5 M112 is producing 500 rwhp.
The company got a TON of e-mails about customers wanting to use e-bay 03-04 Cobra Eatons. Made sense. So a manifold is available. But, here was the catch. The 03-04 Cobra has a separate and much larger pulley mounted on the damper. The GT's have a combination damper/pulley that is only 6 1/4 inches. No matter how small you made the upper pulley, max boost would be about 5-6 pounds. So with the manifold you need a cross/idler assembly brace and a secondary crank pulley and all the other accessories to relocate the alt. etc
The TTI kit also moves the blower forward, so the inlet is HUGE, with a smooth transition into the blower and it runs on it's own 8 rib blower belt. So what we have, is a smaller blower (1.83L) actually making more power than a 2.1L, and at less boost. Enough power to break rods, pistons, blocks and clutches. So 9 pounds is about it. Last thing TTI wanted was a bunch of engines turn into "toast".
i mean dont get me wrong the set up sounds amazing and its long over due cause im sure if i could have got that set up when i built my motor and got my vortech i sure would have jumped on cause nothing sounds better than an Eaton scream thats for sure. i was just stating its a good kit to where you can run it the way it is if you decided to build the motor and then you could find you a whipple or KB to run the higher boost levels with the second crank pulley set up.
everything looks sweet thats for sure
but im sure it will be a while till i see a GT with one where i live
i mean dont get me wrong the set up sounds amazing and its long over due cause im sure if i could have got that set up when i built my motor and got my vortech i sure would have jumped on cause nothing sounds better than an Eaton scream thats for sure. i was just stating its a good kit to where you can run it the way it is if you decided to build the motor and then you could find you a whipple or KB to run the higher boost levels with the second crank pulley set up.
everything looks sweet thats for sure
but im sure it will be a while till i see a GT with one where i live
Thanks for the positive remarks. I don't think it's a matter of turning up the boost levels. Nobody has really had an engine, where they felt safe to keep cranking on it. So they don't know yet what it would do at 16-18-20 pounds. As I'm sure you know, there are a lot of 03-04 Cobra's and Lightnings running around out there making 18-20 pounds of boost with stock Gen 4 Eaton's or ported Steigemeiers on them.
The Whipple's and KB's are just larger displacement blowers. It's the old, well if your not making enough power, go up in size. 2.1 to 2.3 to 2.6 to 3.0 and so on. How about...make the inlet more efficient, make the inter cooler more efficient, the new 60 degree helix, 3 lobe rotors work better etc.
Thanks for the positive remarks. I don't think it's a matter of turning up the boost levels. Nobody has really had an engine, where they felt safe to keep cranking on it. So they don't know yet what it would do at 16-18-20 pounds. As I'm sure you know, there are a lot of 03-04 Cobra's and Lightnings running around out there making 18-20 pounds of boost with stock Gen 4 Eaton's or ported Steigemeiers on them.
The Whipple's and KB's are just larger displacement blowers. It's the old, well if your not making enough power, go up in size. 2.1 to 2.3 to 2.6 to 3.0 and so on. How about...make the inlet more efficient, make the inter cooler more efficient, the new 60 degree helix, 3 lobe rotors work better etc.
yep thats why i went with a vortech cause i love the pull of it plus the efficiency compared to the twin screws and roots but i love the loo of the blower on top of the motor cause something about a blower setting in front just looks goofy some times lol
My take on this when I contacted Ron at TTI was that the M112 Eaton makes a perfect blower for a "Stock" bottom ended 2 valve. Then, down the road when the budget permits going through the bottom end, you can simply bolt on a Whipple or a KB... Plus, we have all of those take off Eatons floating around. At the time, I was driving 180 miles a day to work and back and couldn't justify putting an expensive blower on the car and racking up the miles on it. With the take off Eatons, a replacement was only 400 +/- away if needed...
That would rock.
and all should be good.
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