I remember the Yellowing discussions from awhile back. But I still don't see it in these pictures. Guess my eyes are fading also. The yellowing must be something in the paint pigment or a contamination, maybe oil?
So what do you think this R will bring Rob?
Not sure where this 95R will go. It seems that the higher mile cars have been bringing money higher than what they were in recent history, but that might be a fluke since it has only been a couple of cars. The last 95R with wrappers in place, but with 700-800 miles sold on eBay a few weeks ago for $31K. The 95R that we are looking at here, has less miles, and no wrappers except for the plastic that appears to have been placed on the floor carpet by the guys who dealer prep the cars. I believe the drivers door pull plastic is in place also, but the plastic in place, or not in place, is not a big deal to most.
I would guess high $20K's, maybe very low $30K's depending upon who is looking to buy at this time.
BUT, that does not mean that the seller is interested in selling at those $$$.
That has some possibilities for either myself or some friends.
Sounds GREAT bret. Pls let me know if you need more photos/info. I'll be updating the underhood shots soon as I'm changing the Monte Carlo bar and want to show the FMS wires.
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The underneath side of the hood has this mysterious "yellow" as well.. Could it possibly be a bad picture?
This alternate view also shows the yellowing on the passenger side (bottom of hood) and upon a closer look, there is an indication of yellow on the bottom drivers side of the hood over the strut.
The thing that puzzles me, is "if" it is a clearcoat and engine compartment heat issue, why is it only on the top of the shock tower, and "usually" only toward the rear? strange. The other question is.........if the bottom of the hood is also yellowed, why would it only be over struts?<<I would assume that the finishing process from H.O. Fiber Trends, on the bottom side of this fiberglass hood in not like the Ford assy. line engine compartment finish? Why are the shock towers not yellowed on the front area? <<why not near the hot exhaust headers,<<<speaking of underhood heat. Every 95R that I have looked at only has this yellowing on the top area of the strut towers and usually toward the rear, why? I am not saying it is not an underhood heat issue, but it seems there are some unanswered questions.......
Maybe some sort of towel or protective material was placed on the strut tops to keep the installers from scratching the R model hoods during installation... over time a chemical reaction took place causing the paint to discolor.
The thing is, not all 95R have this issue... it seems the ones that do, they all look the same and the ones that don't have no sign of discolor anywhere else. Maybe some of the dealers washed the cars under the hood during dealer prep and it cleaned of the reacting agent????????????
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'93 Cobra "R" (#59).......'07 GT500 Coupe VB
'93 Cobra "R" (#39).......'93 Coupe 5.0/5spd
'00 Cobra "R" (#36).......'84 Coupe 5.0/5spd
'93 Cobra Red(#621).....'84,'86,'86 SVO's
'03 Ford SD CC 4x4 7.3 PSD
Me thinks condoms were wrapped around the shock towers and as the anti-spermacide decayed and reacted, it created this splooge like substance similr to what is found on all 2000 Rs residing in Wisconsin...right Bruce???
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95 Cobra R... #4 of 250..."Rosie's Diner Car"
Maybe some sort of towel or protective material was placed on the strut tops to keep the installers from scratching the R model hoods during installation... over time a chemical reaction took place causing the paint to discolor.
The thing is, not all 95R have this issue... it seems the ones that do, they all look the same and the ones that don't have no sign of discolor anywhere else. Maybe some of the dealers washed the cars under the hood during dealer prep and it cleaned of the reacting agent????????????
Not sure about an underhood wash or reacting agent, but I have notice the same thing you have mentioned, some have this yellowing, some don't. Some with many miles have it, some with few miles have it. On the other hand, back in 2003/04 we saw some 95R's with little to no miles on them, MSO wrappers, some of them had yellowing also, and you know that they were not driven enough to do much heat damage, that is unless they were started, and run with the hoods closed for extended periods of time, but most people (car guys) that I know might run the engine to lubricate it, but "usually" the hood would be open during this run period in the garage or on the driveway, and then leave the hood open until the engine cools. I hate baking and searing all of the plastic and rubber items under the hood, once the car no longer has air flow through the engine compartment, like parked in the garage, or arrive at a car show, my first action is "get the hood open" and let that heat out.
Now another thought and this is only a possibility that I have tossed around after my many observations of this yellowing.................
Since these struts are adjustible and I would assume there is an o-ring around the stem that is used for adjustment, could they leak when heated or after they age? Could that gas from the inside stain or discolor the clear on the shock towers and bottom side of the hood if it were to escape? This would be a very logical reason why the "top only" of the strut towers are stained on many of these 95R's and if it is a leak and heat issue, plus air flow from front to rear in the engine compartment during this seeping/leaking period, that would also explain why it is "usually" only toward the top/rear of the towers.
Just a thought, but I would guess that since these struts are adjustible and not sealed like other struts/shocks, they could leak, especially if they are old and/or heated? Maybe not.........
Me thinks condoms were wrapped around the shock towers and as the anti-spermacide decayed and reacted, it created this splooge like substance similr to what is found on all 2000 Rs residing in Wisconsin...right Bruce???
Hey call it what you like. I like to call it "character". My car has so much character now I don't even bother to clean it off anymore. If it doesn't come off with the pressure washer after an event, it stays on the car!
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Boy, back in november when this car was on ebay it only had 4322 miles. Looks like someone took a road trip!
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This one(my personal favorite, an R w/Air Cond) is back on Ebay. Kinda funny - a few days ago it was marked SOLD at the seller's BIN of $20900. Today it's relisted with a BIN of $28900!!! WTF is going on? Major GREED?
The last "buyer" says he wasn't online when his winning bid was posted. Very strange stuff going on there in Texas.
This one(my personal favorite, an R w/Air Cond) is back on Ebay. Kinda funny - a few days ago it was marked SOLD at the seller's BIN of $20900. Today it's relisted with a BIN of $28900!!! WTF is going on? Major GREED?
The last "buyer" says he wasn't online when his winning bid was posted. Very strange stuff going on there in Texas.
Unless something has changed radically in the 1995 Cobra R market in the last few months (actually weeks), there will be no takers for the high $20K's BIN's on the 95R with miles on them. "If" the 95R's with mid-4 and 5 digit mile 95R's were regularly selling for prices in the $25K-$30K+ range, that would be GREAT!! BUT, I have to say, I am not seeing that yet.......
Another hurt for each of the three 95R's currently on eBay, there are three listed at the same time............making it a buyers market.
Here is the 95R that sold in Jan. It did not sell for $32K during two previous eBay auctions, but instead $31K through this one. I did hear through the grapevine that "possibly" the buyer/high bidder backed out of this sale? and I see no feedback for this transaction.
The underhood yellowing of the shock towers is caused by the extra heat generated by the high performance 351 installed in the R models. For those of you that have not noticed any yellowing is because a "mistake" was made on the assembly line and your cars actually contain the low HP 351 truck engine that was substituted when the High Performance Devision could not supply enough true R engines.
For those of you who do not track your cars it does not matter. For those of you who do track your cars your yellow shock towers are a badge of honer showing that you have a REAL R model amd the others are just wannabe R's.
The underhood yellowing of the shock towers is caused by the extra heat generated by the high performance 351 installed in the R models. For those of you that have not noticed any yellowing is because a "mistake" was made on the assembly line and your cars actually contain the low HP 351 truck engine that was substituted when the High Performance Devision could not supply enough true R engines.
For those of you who do not track your cars it does not matter. For those of you who do track your cars your yellow shock towers are a badge of honer showing that you have a REAL R model amd the others are just wannabe R's.
I does not matter to me what, or if, the car is used, raced or stored. There is no pattern to the yellowing that I can see. Some 95R's have it, and some don't when comparing 95R's across the spectrum of use (or no use) and miles. Why is this?
Why would a 13 mile wrapper or this sub-500 mile eBay example have yellowing shock towers, if it is heat, use or racing that causes the yellowing? and then a 13K mile and some other 95R's that I have seen with even more miles, not have yellowing?
For some reason, this yellowing is not lining up with "use" which equals heat.
Dean - This one is getting close to what I guessed a few days ago. The auction is not over yet, it may get to my "higher $20K's/low $30K's" quote.............but it will probably not meet reserve.
The winning bidder contacted the seller and said funds would not be available for two weeks. There is really nothing else that needs to be said. If I knew that there were currently bidders looking for a 00R like this, and my reserve had been met in the first auction, I would relist it as soon as possible to "possibly" get those bidders again. Those same bidders might not even be surfing eBay for a car like this in two weeks, if the first buyer does not come through (which is one week too late according to the auction "Full Payment" information).
And then there is the chance that the car will bid much lower in two weeks, it all depends upon who is interested in buying during that brief 7 day auction period.
One additional thought.............."If" the high bidder were to contact the seller before the auction end, and state that the funds would be past the stated time period in the auction, that is one thing, but to disclose this "two week later payment" after the auction end, is not acceptable to many sellers. Informing the seller of a payment issue after the auction, is not the right time.
I like to call it "character". 
BUT, I have to say, I am not seeing that yet.......
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