A good friend of mine was running his '69 Mustang in the Silver State Classic ealier this year, and spotted a turbo 00R in the race area. We both agreed it was kind of cool.. but that neither of us would want to do that to an 00R.
From the magazine archives, another turbo 00R............, no girl in the picture(s), but a turbo 00R.
S/C'ed.........
Information provided to me right after the 40th at Lowes Motor Speedway. Vortech had a 3rd party vendor who was building a S/C kit for the 00R. I saw an 00R on the front cover of their Vortech brochure, so of course I had questions............
I'd value a turbo 00R at half the price of a stock 00R.
Heck, it seems to me that I could buy a FR500-C for the price to build a turbo 00R?
JMHO.
I would guess that there would be much time and tuning to get the car to run right.
I don't know about 1/2 price? maybe?, but I'll bet it is a blast to drive!! and then opening the hood, the 2000 Cobra R "WOW" factor..............plus a blower, DOUBLE WOW!!
That "Double Wow", plus the added power may help those particular 00R's to not be 1/2 price.........., not to mention their uniqueness.
I know of a guy in VA that has Vortec blown '00R. His brother has a turbo or supercharged (not sure which) '93R that is drag raced. It runs in the high 8's. The same brother bought a 95R from a guy in Washington. I think the seller was Sargent1, I may be wrong, but it was from Washington.
As far as adding a turbo or blower to a '00R, sign me up. I would love to have one to go with my supercharged '95R.
I'd value a turbo 00R at half the price of a stock 00R.
Heck, it seems to me that I could buy a FR500-C for the price to build a turbo 00R?
JMHO.
Doc - Another thought on the "half price". That 95R that we recently watched on eBay, the one with the S/C, Dart heads, big cubic inch motor (no hope of original matching drivetrain numbers)...........it did not seem to bring any less $$$ than one in original/stock condition (with maybe even a few mods) with like miles. The main difference was "pennies on the dollars spent on mods".
Another thought on the "half price". That 95R that we recently watched on eBay, the one with the S/C, Dart heads, big cubic inch motor (no hope of original matching drivetrain numbers)...........it did not seem to bring any less $$$ than one in original/stock condition (with maybe even a few mods) with like miles. The main difference was "pennies on the dollars spent on mods".
Yea, I did state that poorly. I meant to say that its worth half the cost of the modifications, like you said "pennies on the dollar"---much like building a race car.
We are now talking about two different power adders (the third is nitrous). A S/C is a simpler design. Ford has added superchargers to trucks, Mustangs, and the Ford GT. The only turbo that I know of that Ford has is on the diesel engines.
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I would guess that there would be much time and tuning to get the car to run right.
That is one thing that would bother me. A stock 00R engine will easily last 100,000 miles. The modular engine has proved to be very durable.
When you add a turbo, you add heat. That heat subtracts from its engine life, and in some instances of too much heat and timing; it can result in rods flying through the oil pan.
Doc - Another thought on the "half price". That 95R that we recently watched on eBay, the one with the S/C, Dart heads, big cubic inch motor (no hope of original matching drivetrain numbers)...........it did not seem to bring any less $$$ than one in original/stock condition (with maybe even a few mods) with like miles. The main difference was "pennies on the dollars spent on mods".
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That 95 R is still for sale, back on Ebay.
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The new EcoBoost engines are turbocharged and direct injection. Also, they did the turbo Mustangs and turbo Thunderbirds. But you were pretty close
I forgot about those Mustangs and T-Birds. They had something like 140 hp? I bought a few Fox 5.0L cars in those days since they were faster and much less expensive.
I did forget about the new EcoBoost V-6 in the $40K Ford Flex family wagon. I guess that I was thinking about performance cars.
I remain unimpressed. Now if you can show me a turbo Ford road racing car that can outrun all of the FR500-C's in a two hour enduro, I could come around.
I remain unimpressed. Now if you can show me a turbo Ford road racing car that can outrun all of the FR500-C's in a two hour enduro, I could come around.
Doc:
Figure out a way to remove 2,000# out of the new SHO and you'll have a rocket on wheels!
I forgot about those Mustangs and T-Birds. They had something like 140 hp? I bought a few Fox 5.0L cars in those days since they were faster and much less expensive.
I did forget about the new EcoBoost V-6 in the $40K Ford Flex family wagon. I guess that I was thinking about performance cars.
I remain unimpressed. Now if you can show me a turbo Ford road racing car that can outrun all of the FR500-C's in a two hour enduro, I could come around.
Way to deflect but your original quote was about diesels being the only Ford produced turbo engines. Which diesel engine has Ford produced in a road racing car? I remain unimpressed as well
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Doc:
Figure out a way to remove 2,000# out of the new SHO and you'll have a rocket on wheels!
A friend of mine that works for Ford has flogged one of these cars on a road course (Grattan Raceway to be exact). He says the engine is more than up to the task. The brakes need quite a bit of work to stand long sessions and it could stand to lose some weight so that it doesn't push quite as much or eat up tires so fast.
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A good friend of mine was running his '69 Mustang in the Silver State Classic ealier this year, and spotted a turbo 00R in the race area. We both agreed it was kind of cool.. but that neither of us would want to do that to an 00R.
this was in the steamboatsprings mustang round up this year. the car has a cage and window nets also. pretty bad ass car really. but the guy knows nothing about the car, or how to drive it. he mentioned how he had a "special blow-off valve to regulate his exhaust boost." and he kept telling us it had "10 boost", but he was a nice guy with a very nice car that put down 740rwhp
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That turboed 00R in the magazine I see every other day when I pass by Forced Air Technologies. Its a sick car. FAT did all the custome turbo work then the car was tuned at Performance Solutions Racing. Last I heard it was knocking on the door of 700rwhp at about 10#. Pretty sick set up. If I had an 00R and the $$$ I would turbo one in a heart beat. You only live once and you cant take this stuff to the grave.
Yea, I did state that poorly. I meant to say that its worth half the cost of the modifications, like you said "pennies on the dollar"---much like building a race car.
Sure but that goes for any car you mod. We all take that risk and come to that realization with our cars at some point. But for many of us mustang owners(maybe not the R owners) we are just not satisfied leaving our cars stock. Half the fun is making the car your own,
We are now talking about two different power adders (the third is nitrous). A S/C is a simpler design. Ford has added superchargers to trucks, Mustangs, and the Ford GT. The only turbo that I know of that Ford has is on the diesel engines.
Now a supercharger is not necessarily a simpler design. Matter of fact the centri blower is very much like a turbo. Centris used to be known as belt driven turbos. The PD blowers with the two rotating screws are just as complex a design as a turbo. There are many cars that feature a turbo that Ford has produced. The SVO, the new SHO, the Focus RS(only available in Europe, BS!) turbo diesels etc.
That is one thing that bother me. A stock 00R engine will easily last 100,000 miles. The modular engine has proved to be very durable.
When you add a turbo, you add heat. That heat subtracts from its engine life, and in some instances of too much heat and timing; it can result in rods flying through the oil pan.
Sure but that wouldnt stop me from slapping on a turbo! All the 00R needs is a stout rotating assembly to have a bullit proof bottom end. Besides, I'm sure all the owners putting power adders on these cars are aware of the risk they take and either have or have in wait a built shortblock.
Sure but that wouldnt stop me from slapping on a turbo! All the 00R needs is a stout rotating assembly to have a bullit proof bottom end. Besides, I'm sure all the owners putting power adders on these cars are aware of the risk they take and either have or have in wait a built shortblock.
The '00 R has one of the most stout rotating assemblies you'll find.
I forgot about those Mustangs and T-Birds. They had something like 140 hp? I bought a few Fox 5.0L cars in those days since they were faster and much less expensive.
I did forget about the new EcoBoost V-6 in the $40K Ford Flex family wagon. I guess that I was thinking about performance cars.
I remain unimpressed. Now if you can show me a turbo Ford road racing car that can outrun all of the FR500-C's in a two hour enduro, I could come around.
First off, the FR500-C's are designed as race specific vehicles for that purpose. I dont even think they are street legal. But if you are looking for a turbo car that Ford makes that can hold its own in the twisties look to the Focus RS. Its got a turbo 5 cylinder and FWD but it is a little monster on the road course.
If the Ecoboost v6 finds its way into a mustang chasis it should make a killer open track car.
That turboed 00R in the magazine I see every other day when I pass by Forced Air Technologies. Its a sick car. FAT did all the custome turbo work then the car was tuned at Performance Solutions Racing. Last I heard it was knocking on the door of 700rwhp at about 10#. Pretty sick set up. If I had an 00R and the $$$ I would turbo one in a heart beat. You only live once and you cant take this stuff to the grave.
it made 740 HP that is BOBs cobra r with the turbo. the car set the world record for the standing half mile and you are correct PSR Tuned that cobra R also here is another cobra R with a turbo FAT built the turbo system PSR built the motor and tuned it as well
Oh i forgot to mention this is the iceing on the cake car that was in the mag. the turbo kit was removed and given to the car that was in the silver state classis then it this kit was built and then they Re did the turbo kit for the one in silver state again changing the turbo out to a GT47R making only 14PSI
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this was in the steamboatsprings mustang round up this year. the car has a cage and window nets also. pretty bad ass car really. but the guy knows nothing about the car, or how to drive it. he mentioned how he had a "special blow-off valve to regulate his exhaust boost." and he kept telling us it had "10 boost", but he was a nice guy with a very nice car that put down 740rwhp
The car didn’t put down 740 at that time nor any where close his old dyno tuner was a joke the guy thought that he had to add 24% as a correction factor due to the car being dynode in Colorado. There is no correction factor for a turbo. And these are the only 2 turbo cobra R s that we know of. My friend Ray Owns the one in the magazine and that is the same one that is posted on stang net and still sitting in my garage and that is the same one I posted pictures of, and the second one is the silver state classic R that Bob owns he too lives here in phoenix now. When the guy was talking about the pressure in the exhaust we was trying to say that the car has 2 waist gates one is for the turbo and the other one is in the exhaust could vent to atmosphere so the turbo could spool faster. He doesn’t know much about it other than what he is told and being older only means that it is a little harder for him to remember the terminology
I guess that I was thinking about performance cars. 
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