I have searched for hours and still can not get a clear answer. I am looking at the Lethal Performance 99-04 4V Budget Return Style Fuel System for my ported eaton mach 1 with a 2.8 upper and 4lb lower to run on e85. Will this system work with 80lb injectors and still give me enough fuel to support what I have and also thinking about adding 125 shot down the road. Any help would be great!!
____________________________________ Past Mustangs
1969 coupe, 1987 Gt, 1990 Silver lx built 357w, 1999 Silver GT, 1993 lx with 150 shot, 1986 silver 347 Gt, 1989 Gt conv, 1993 black tw headed b-trim cobra 2003 Black Mach 1 MODS
Stg 4 Ported Blower
Ported Elbow and Throttle Body
JLT intake
2800 Sct MA
Amazon Tune Diablo Tuner
FMS ADS
4:10 gears
Spec Alum FW
LM Centerforce Clutch
Pro 5.0 Shifter
2.8 upper and 4lb lower pulley
Magnaflow Cat-back
Bassani off road X-pipe
FMS C Springs
Viper Spec 6 speed
KB BAP
PPRV Delete
On gasoline, the system is rated to 750 rwhp with 80 lb injectors at 40 psi base fuel pressure. If you are going to be running E85 and nitrous, I recommend going with a complete system as you'll need serious volume. If you don't spray, the budget system should be fine.
____________________________________ Muscular Stang Racing - Racing to cure Muscular Dystrophy
Visit Team Muscular Stang to see what we are about.. LETHAL PERFORMANCE, INC. http://www.lethalperformance.com 877-2LETHAL
Im planning on getting this system, on your website it still says its using fore products, are you guys using division x products and magnafuel regulators now? Also can I ditch the walboros and instead get the twin stryker 340 pumps? Looking at around 730ish whp on e85
____________________________________
C5 Fairway Green Corvette
LS3 - H/C - FAST 102 - CCW Classics
I cant say enough about the Budget Return system. By far one of the best mods I have ever done since I've owned this car for close to 8 years. I had one of the 1st ones to come out and love it. Car drives alot better, no more "tuning" for odd spikes and imperfections caused by returnless gremlins.
Car ran multiple 9 second passes on it last year. I am running -8 Feed line on mine with the stock hat outlet adapter on the pump housing.
I run a 2.8H KB, 27psi, car makes 744whp uncorrected on 60lb injectors (723whp SAE) If I ever run out of fuel or go e85 I will upgrade to some strykers or aeromotive stealth pumps and go 80lb injectors with some elevated base pressure. Im on 110 Octane btw.
____________________________________ 03 Cobra - Sonic Blue 6spd, IRS, KB 2.8H "all boost & stock halfshafts"
9.82@139
1.47 60ft [email protected] 1/8th Motor Build + 8.8 Inwork over the winter/spring -- Next up 9.50's twinscrew/6spd!!
'12 Polaris Pro-RMK Assault 800 -- One 5 5
10.89@127 October 2005-- Ported Eaton, IRS, 6spd, 2.93/4lb Lower, fullweight
I cant say enough about the Budget Return system. By far one of the best mods I have ever done since I've owned this car for close to 8 years. I had one of the 1st ones to come out and love it. Car drives alot better, no more "tuning" for odd spikes and imperfections caused by returnless gremlins.
Car ran multiple 9 second passes on it last year. I am running -8 Feed line on mine with the stock hat outlet adapter on the pump housing.
I run a 2.8H KB, 27psi, car makes 744whp uncorrected on 60lb injectors (723whp SAE) If I ever run out of fuel or go e85 I will upgrade to some strykers or aeromotive stealth pumps and go 80lb injectors with some elevated base pressure. Im on 110 Octane btw.
are you still on stock fuel rails as well? I have a triple returnless system right now with my 2.3 whipple with -8 feed, 80# and stock rails, but I too am having random gremlins with the tuning. I was thinking of going with this kit and selling my returnelss parts, but If I need aftermarket rails too, might as well buy the full kit.
Im planning on getting this system, on your website it still says its using fore products, are you guys using division x products and magnafuel regulators now? Also can I ditch the walboros and instead get the twin stryker 340 pumps? Looking at around 730ish whp on e85
Yes, it's divisionX and manga fuel products. You can upgrade to the Stryker pumps for $90, but the stock lines and rails can't flow the volume needed for mid 700's rwhp. Youll need to go with lines and rails with E85.
Yes, it's divisionX and manga fuel products. You can upgrade to the Stryker pumps for $90, but the stock lines and rails can't flow the volume needed for mid 700's rwhp. Youll need to go with lines and rails with E85.
Not true... there are plenty of cars on stock rails at over 700 rwhp even some up to 1000. But I will agree about the lines. If you have the tests and data to prove the members on here and multiple stock rail mustang owners that have surpassed the 700rwhp mark that the rails cant flow that much, i would then gladly change my opinion.
Not true... there are plenty of cars on stock rails at over 700 rwhp even some up to 1000. But I will agree about the lines. If you have the tests and data to prove the members on here and multiple stock rail mustang owners that have surpassed the 700rwhp mark that the rails cant flow that much, i would then gladly change my opinion.
There's people on here using stock rails with E85 up to 1000rwhp?
Not saying it can't be done but more concerned on why someone would still be running stock components at that point especially on the corn.
____________________________________ VOTED BEST ONLINE PERFORMANCE SHOP BY THE MEMBERS OF SVTPERFORMANCE.COM!! LETHAL PERFORMANCE, INC. www.lethalperformance.com 877-2LETHAL Whipple Supercharger's Largest US Distributor
MCLEOD, Spec, Ram, Fidanza, Centerforce Always in Stock!
Steeda, BMR, MM, UPR, CHE -Suspension SAME DAY SHIPPING!!
Corn and 1000 is a bit different due to the volume. But many have done 700+ with stock rails, many reputible tuners that i have talked to have even said stock rails are fine to 1000. Why change it if it works? Unless you have to do it or have money to blow to make the engine bay look better with aftermarket rails, I see no point.
Well, that's why we rate the budget system to over 700 rwhp on gasoline, I fail to see where we advertised differently? You're not going to support that power on E85 with stock lines and rails, or even upgraded lines and stock rails. You WILL NOT make 1000 rwhp on stock rails and have a working engine by the time you reach the end of the track. Maybe you can do it on a dyno, but it will not work on the street. Do you know how much fuel you need to support 1000 rwhp? You think you can flow that volume though the single 5/16" opening going into the stock rails?
I do not recommend the budget system for E85 users unless you're going to be under 550 rwhp.
Last edited by Carbd86GT@Lethal; 02-06-2012 at 03:43 PM..
Well, that's why we rate the budget system to over 700 rwhp on gasoline, I fail to see where we advertised differently? You're not going to support that power on E85 with stock lines and rails, or even upgraded lines and stock rails. You WILL NOT make 1000 rwhp on stock rails and have a working engine by the time you reach the end of the track. Maybe you can do it on a dyno, but it will not work on the street. Do you know how much fuel you need to support 1000 rwhp? You think you can flow that volume though the single 5/16" opening going into the stock rails?
I do not recommend the budget system for E85 users unless you're going to be under 550 rwhp.
I have your budget kit so im not putting the kit down at all. Also not claiming that the stock rails will support 1000 on e85. Just stating has been done with other fuel though, a mix or just straight race gas. Im glad you all came out with the budget kit cause for me it was clearly a no brainer for cost, ease of tuning, and basically limitless power with only the change of a fuel pump.
honestly i planned on getting this kit, running it with my kb 2.2 and possibly 100 shot. it would be under 750rwhp on 93. looking for around 700-720rwhp. would this kit suffice? would i need to upgrade the pumps to the strykers?
I have your budget kit so im not putting the kit down at all. Also not claiming that the stock rails will support 1000 on e85. Just stating has been done with other fuel though, a mix or just straight race gas. Im glad you all came out with the budget kit cause for me it was clearly a no brainer for cost, ease of tuning, and basically limitless power with only the change of a fuel pump.
It's all good bro. Just wanted to make sure we were all talking about the same thing. Thanks so much for your support and let us know if there's anything else we can help you with.
Quote:
Originally Posted by -DUNNY-
honestly i planned on getting this kit, running it with my kb 2.2 and possibly 100 shot. it would be under 750rwhp on 93. looking for around 700-720rwhp. would this kit suffice? would i need to upgrade the pumps to the strykers?
honestly i planned on getting this kit, running it with my kb 2.2 and possibly 100 shot. it would be under 750rwhp on 93. looking for around 700-720rwhp. would this kit suffice? would i need to upgrade the pumps to the strykers?
On gasoline and off the juice, yes, this system will be enough with 80 lb injectors and standard 255 pumps. Hope that helps, let us know of you have any other questions.
It's all good bro. Just wanted to make sure we were all talking about the same thing. Thanks so much for your support and let us know if there's anything else we can help you with.
Are you going to run E85 or regular gasoline?
Pump 93. I have 60lb injectors and planned on runnin them. So i will just take it blower and nitrous is a no go with the budget kit.
Pump 93. I have 60lb injectors and planned on runnin them. So i will just take it blower and nitrous is a no go with the budget kit.
The budget kit using the gss342's and 60's is good for 700rwhp and possibly more with conventional gasoline. Step up to the 80's and you'll easily be able to support 750rwhp. Add the DX340's into the mix and you've got even more volume to work with. With that said I feel the budget kit will do more than fine for the setup you're looking to do. Remember as well that you could upgrade it at any time to use aftermarket lines and rails.
Linear Mode
