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Old 02-07-2012, 08:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Street racing vs a drunk driver who is at fault?

No, this is not me, nor do I live in florida, I saw this on another forum.

Honda's are setting up to race, when a apparent drunk driver in a nissan xterra runs over the red honda. Who is at fault? I would think it would be a no fault on either of them, but I am sure they both are ticketed for illegal activity. Correct? Anyways here is the video.

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Old 02-07-2012, 08:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes I saw this also... Crazy!
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It would have been different if we knew they had pulled over and were not getting ready to race, but they weren't.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Been on that bridge a while back and it gets pretty crazy sometimes.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Well stopping on the highway is illegal. Being drunk is illegal lol.

this came up on a local board too.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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So basically for insurance reasons its a no fault, but in a law perspective they can both expect some jail time.
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Generally I would write like this: Party 1 (P1 - party most at fault) would be the drunk because he was deuce and speeding, Party 2 would be the Honda for stopping on the freeway and would be cited (22400 VC) for impeding the flow of traffic. This is a tough one, but generally the presumption is that deuce is the primary cause or primary collision factor (although not always).
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First you would need to take a look at what caused the crash. The Honda by obstructing the roadway. Plus, stopping to conduct other illegal activity, racing. Someone mentioned stopping on a bridge, this is also illegal. The actions of the Honda weighed heavily on causing the crash. He gets the X in my opinion.
Now if the other driver is intoxicated, then he would be charged with a DWI.
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has it been proven that the guy in the SUV was drunk???

NOPE

are the ricers stupid for attempting a dig race ont he Gandy bridge?

YEP!

also the ricers fled the scene and left their cars there

lastly i am willing to bet that was the best 60' time that red honda ever put down
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IMO, I would find all 3 drivers at fault. Both ricers would be charged several times for their actions. Impeding the flow of traffic, Reckless Driving for the street racing (in VA, just the setting up to race is a Class 1 Misdemeanor) and the flagger for Pedestrian on the interstate, and aiding/abetting a street race. The SUV driver (if he were DUI) would only be looking at that charge. The driver of the SUV does have a reasonable expectation that the roadway SHOULD be free of obstructions. Even though he hit a stopped car, it is still the duty of the stopped car not to be there (pending a mechanical failure beypond the driver's control. If he wasn't DUI (maybe asleep?), then he could be charged with Reckless Driving too.

Case in point, dumbass ricers shouldn't have been stopped on the roadway to street race.
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has it been proven that the guy in the SUV was drunk???

NOPE

are the ricers stupid for attempting a dig race ont he Gandy bridge?

YEP!

also the ricers fled the scene and left their cars there

lastly i am willing to bet that was the best 60' time that red honda ever put down
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First you would need to take a look at what caused the crash. The Honda by obstructing the roadway. Plus, stopping to conduct other illegal activity, racing. Someone mentioned stopping on a bridge, this is also illegal. The actions of the Honda weighed heavily on causing the crash. He gets the X in my opinion.
Now if the other driver is intoxicated, then he would be charged with a DWI.
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IMO, I would find all 3 drivers at fault. Both ricers would be charged several times for their actions. Impeding the flow of traffic, Reckless Driving for the street racing (in VA, just the setting up to race is a Class 1 Misdemeanor) and the flagger for Pedestrian on the interstate, and aiding/abetting a street race. The SUV driver (if he were DUI) would only be looking at that charge. The driver of the SUV does have a reasonable expectation that the roadway SHOULD be free of obstructions. Even though he hit a stopped car, it is still the duty of the stopped car not to be there (pending a mechanical failure beypond the driver's control. If he wasn't DUI (maybe asleep?), then he could be charged with Reckless Driving too.

Case in point, dumbass ricers shouldn't have been stopped on the roadway to street race.
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is it wrong that I initially chuckled when I saw this video???

p.s. everyone in the video is at fault..i agree with thats been posted already
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Could the spectators be charged with something as well?
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Could the spectators be charged with something as well?
Absolutely. In VA, being a spectator to street racing is also a criminal misdemeanor.
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Could the spectators be charged with something as well?
Oh yeah. It's illegal in Fl to be watching street races.
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LOL at all the fart cans rolling out in the background, I know I shouldn't laugh but nobody was seriously hurt and it appears to be a collection of morons
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I think the best answer here is..... Cite both of them and let the Lawyers battle it out in civial court.


The Honda's are wrong for stopping in traffic and bear some of the responsibulity.

If the SUV driver was drunk, They bear quite a bit of responsibility as well.

If the SUV driver was NOT drunk, they also bear responsiblity for out driving their head lights/vision. I can clearly see in the video working tail lights on the Civic before the accident.
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depends on the state. more and more of them are passing law that if you encourage or watch a race you get charged as well.
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My view is honda's can not withstand impact of suv going that fast. also i blame honda for making the civic and i also blame the first person who made a honda fast be put in jail. haha just kidding.

i think its funny how it HAS to be a Single persons fault when theres so many variables to look at. if this video wasnt posted the possibility s and lies could be more than whats already been stated.

Start with Suv i believe in florida if you rear end someone its automatically your fault to a certain point. if he was doing speed limit should have been able to see this RED civc in enough time to slow down (thank god this civic was not murdered out). would have been nasty. personally i would have given ticket to suv for not hitting both cars... and of course everyone perfectly healthy and no injury s from it. most likely another woman out of the kitchen agian these things happen...

the civic well dig or roll about the same speed alike for that car. i believe should have just went to import show. yes its illegal to stop on bridge but it could have been broken down very likely and in that case its all suvs fault. story can be twisted in court or whatever for ether person.

THE DAMM PEOPLE they are actually in trouble to as they support the race they can all get in trouble. number 1 cause of manslaughter from vehicle's people standing in the road (makes sense to me)... back up a little so suv can pass. hah


well another one bites the dust ive been no help!

o and i live in central florida and have run with the law and have buddy s on the force. ive seen enough of crap like this. use to be able to get a little race then cops show up and check out cars ask questions admire the pure american muscle and leave good days.. not anymore..
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