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Old 08-13-2008, 12:01 AM   #51 (permalink)
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i agree the Mach is quicker stock for stock...but how many times do i have to tell you people that the Cobra and Mach weigh nearly the same...the Cobra is actually a few lbs lighter than the mach

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Mach 1 3465 lb M5
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but then again whats 35lbs??? nothing really IMO
so why does the mach1 weigh 35lbs more? Isn't the IRS a hefty 85 lbs more than the SRA?
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:50 AM   #52 (permalink)
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so why does the mach1 weigh 35lbs more? Isn't the IRS a hefty 85 lbs more than the SRA?
Not sure on the weight of the IRS vs SRA...but it's not nearly as much as people think.

The Mach comes with Subframe connectors, and the shaker assembly adds a few lbs (5 or 6) as well
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Not sure on the weight of the IRS vs SRA...but it's not nearly as much as people think.

The Mach comes with Subframe connectors, and the shaker assembly adds a few lbs (5 or 6) as well
The IRS is 100lbs heavier than the SRA.
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The IRS is 100lbs heavier than the SRA.

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featur...cobra_irs.html

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Old 08-16-2008, 05:31 PM   #55 (permalink)
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The IRS weighed 80 pounds more than the GT's straight axle.....
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N/A 32V....yeah it's a 5.4 but it's stilll N/A

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Sheesh, can't anyone take a joke?! I was referring to they suck as in, create a vacuum, and supercharged and turbo'd 32v's blow, you know, boost? Bad joke, sorry.
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I love both of these cars. Its like comparing twin brothers that are not identical twins. The differences stock to stock are so small it is a drivers race.
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holy shit!!

On August 17th 2008ad a Mach one driver said and i quote

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I love both of these cars. Its like comparing twin brothers that are not identical twins. The differences stock to stock are so small it is a drivers race.
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Sheesh, can't anyone take a joke?! I was referring to they suck as in, create a vacuum, and supercharged and turbo'd 32v's blow, you know, boost? Bad joke, sorry.
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On August 17th 2008ad a Mach one driver said and i quote
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cobras have more hp 15 more machs have 3 more lbs of torque the machs do come with 3.55's stock and the cobras have 3.27's its more or less the same car besides the irs the heads blabla its just which ever you think looks better. ive raced a 04 mach 1 it had the basic stuff and i beat it on the track with my 3.27's?
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actually mach1's have almost the same peak rwhp as cobras. 275-285 rwhp on the average. The machs were a little underrated from ford. The difference is the cobra makes its peak power at a higher rpm. than the mach1. Mach1's also have the 03 cobra heads so they generally make more torque. I love both cars as well.
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i think that manufacturers should be required to list the rwhp as well as the usual crank hp when they advertise. its like with stereos, or amps.. peak power vs rms power. really the peak power means nothing, just a big number for people to gawk at.. similar to crank power vs rwhp.

Whats are the REAL numbers, not the fancy numbers to appeal to the unknowledged eye!!
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one word... Marketing appeal! As long its not technically false advertisement. Ford learned that painfull harsh lesson from the 99 Cobras in a BIG WAY!
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put a 99 cobra bumper and 98 cobra intake cam in a mach and you got the best na car.. looks and performance wise that ford made.. besides going exotic
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this question does get asked over and over again but i still find it hard to believe that this many cobra owners still think that stock for stock the cobra is just as quick.

The cobra is heavier and has less hp. It also has a rearend that doesn't hook well. A stock mach one will always be quicker than a stock cobra given the same driver.

As for the compression, .15 will make no differnce in hp or the ability to run fi.
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<---- wants a Auto Mach for a DD, yeh i ****ing said it lol
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Here are some short snippets of me pulling on a 04 Mach with a ~100 lb passanger (videotaping) and me in my Cobra with a full tank and a ~300 lb passanger on a cruise with a local mustang board...



The second one wasnt a race it just sounds/looks good!

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Better heads, slightly better intake, much better hood, solid axle......... hands down, Mach1!

I do hate the stock gauge cluster and wheels on the mach though, but those are both an easy fix.
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N/A 32v's suck...
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I agree with everyone.

SRA>IRS.

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