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Old 12-03-2008, 12:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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N/A power ideas

Any have any idea for a N/A high 500 RWHP power. Who to use for head porting, Cams, Intake porting, Tuning a FAST management system?
This wont be a daily. More for weekend use.
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Can't say I can help you with who to go to, but if you're wanting this with the 4.6, you better be ready to spend a LOT of money. Spend half as much and go with a bigger cube push rod.
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The cost of the Fast systems alone will get you a Whipple. The cost of the port and cams will pay for the supporting mods. An N/A engine at that power lever (which will be a stretch) will be a dog at low and mid-range and would get trounced by an FI car. 500 hp on a blown engine is the starting point.
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You might want to talk to Birdman here and give Al Papitto a call. I don't know if you get get to high 500's with a 4.6 based block without n2o. I think you'll need a 5.4 based block or some other custom big cube mod block. Hope you have some coin.
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Any have any idea for a N/A high 500 RWHP power. Who to use for head porting, Cams, Intake porting, Tuning a FAST management system?
This wont be a daily. More for weekend use.
1st Welcome to SVT and 2nd how much money do you have to play with ?

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Old 12-03-2008, 10:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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An N/A engine at that power lever (which will be a stretch) will be a dog at low and mid-range and would get trounced by an FI car.
A Dog Down down low and mid range? Trounced by an FI car?


And take 5 minutes and read thru this thread...

Two Terminator Kills

Then, think about it and edit your post. LOL!

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Old 12-03-2008, 10:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I've put some quick calculations together and nice N/A combo with a Mod motor is quite spendy, if you buy good new parts. Foxlake charges $2500 for CNC work +++ if you add extras, cams are 1200, fuel system upgrades etc.. it gets up there and this is not even mentioning touching the short block or other drivetrain mods. FI will be similar price but get you much more hp be more streetable, and will meet your rwhp goal more easily.

A badass N/A car is really impressive tho... comes down to how much $$$ do you have!

BTW, whoever said it was cheaper to build it with a pushrod motor is correct, my last foxbody had a bad n/a motor dyno'd at 526rwhp at 7200rpm running 9.80 and it was about a 12K top to bottom!
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A Dog Down down low and mid range? Trounced by an FI car?

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/N...ant_161933.htm

And take 5 minutes and read thru this thread...

Two Terminator Kills

Then, think about it and edit your post. LOL!

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Impressive video

Now rewind, add boost, replay
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Impressive video

Now rewind, add boost, replay
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BTW, whoever said it was cheaper to build it with a pushrod motor is correct, my last foxbody had a bad n/a motor dyno'd at 526rwhp at 7200rpm running 9.80 and it was about a 12K top to bottom!
And you're in a mod motor because...........? I thought about switching to a pushrod but I don't feel like buying a new tranny (just rebuild mine), DS, and dealing with the wiring harness fun.

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Old 12-03-2008, 05:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't get why some people try talking others out of making sick NA power. Sure it can cost more upfront, but people like me would rather keep their 99-01s N/A.

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A 5.4 derivative w/ FGT heads and a modified sullivan is the only combo I'm aware of that has produced that kind of power.

A big bore stroker, might be able to do it, but you'll have to wait for Nazman to prove it first.

It'd be much easier to shoot for 450-500rwhp and spray it the rest of the way.
Std 5.4's with aussie boss intakes/00R intakes and big bore strokers with fr500/sullivans would all make those numbers with the right heads/cams and supporting mods.
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I already have the FAST system its paid for and sitting. I donbt plan on doing this in a few months but through time. Im about to get out of the military and move back east. So im just doing my research.
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Nazman how much do you think it will cost him to get 500rwhp NA ?
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over 15k just for the motor
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nazman how much do you think it will cost him to get 500rwhp na ?
$10k+

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over 15k just for the motor
Ill that's a good ball park figure with quality parts.

Short Block
322CI BB/STR @ ~11:1CR
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Custom at ~240/236 Duration
~1250

Long Block Supporting Gear
ModComponents Adjustable Cam Sprokets
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Billet Oil Pump Gear
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This long block will support 7750+RPMs and give you the 500+RW with the right supporting mods and tune.

Go with billet rods for 8000+RPMs capablity, about 20 more deg cam duration and bump the CR to 12.5-13:1 and you will have mid 500 all Motor....look to spend about 1.5K more on the long block.

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Ill that's a good ball park figure with quality parts.

Short Block
322CI BB/STR @ ~11:1CR
H-Beam Rods
Kellogg Fully Counterweighted Crank
etc.
~7000

Heads
Fully Ported
Springs
1+mm Valves
VJ, Deck, etc.
~3000

Intake
Sullivan
Wilson Spacer
~1250

Cams
Custom at ~240/236 Duration
~1250

Long Block Supporting Gear
ModComponents Adjustable Cam Sprokets
Billet Timing Wheel
Billet Oil Pump Gear
~1300

This long block will support 7750+RPMs and give you the 500+RW with the right supporting mods and tune.

Go with billet rods for 8000+RPMs capablity, about 20 more deg cam duration and bump the CR to 12.5-13:1 and you will have mid 500 all Motor....look to spend about 1.5K more on the long block.

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Yup alot of money to get 500rwhp NA


OP: Good Luck and keep us posted with your progress. But looks like your going to have to reach deep into those pockets 15k-20k + Install

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I don't think it would cost anywhere near that,
unless you used a BB FGT block.
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Who would you recommend for getting the heads ported and getting the cams from?
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I don't think it would cost anywhere near that,
unless you used a BB FGT block.
How much cheaper is a FGT block and rotating assembly than a Boss block and 324 rotating assembly?
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