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Old 07-17-2003, 03:29 AM   #51 (permalink)
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About the SRT-4, it's a great car for the money. There's a vid floating around somewhere with one doing 12.99 with a manual boost controller, exhaust, and slicks (not sure if there were other power mods or not, supposedly all bolt-ons and definitely stock turbo). Try doing that with any other new car for only $23K total.

Fast is a relative term.
I dont doubt that... Its how long that engine will last is what Im worried about... Then again for only 23,000 I guess beggers cant be choosers eh?
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Old 07-17-2003, 11:48 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I never said that my evo barely hangs with 03 cobras. I was talking about the stock evos. My evo could kill any 03 cobra in the twisties and can keep up with them in a strait line.

Now for a little test.
Get in a 03 cobra, take a turn that is about .90 g's, and floor it.
Get in a 03 evo VIII, take a turn that is about .90 g's, and floor it.

I think that after you spin out and kill yourself you will realize the power of the EVO VIII.
Sell your Cobra then ...... Still don't understand why you bought it.
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Old 07-17-2003, 08:10 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Sell your Cobra then ...... Still don't understand why you bought it.
I bought it because it is one hell of a car for the price.
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Old 07-18-2003, 02:37 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I think this is pretty funny....trying to compare a limp wristed car like an evo or srt-4 to a man's car like a mustang.
You guys crack me up

Seriously though....a neon is a neon is a neon...i don't give a rat's ass what it will run.
And as far as the evo goes...it's kinda weird that shitsubishi makes their economy car faster than their sports car(eclipse)...if you can really call it a sports car anymore.

A car needs to have balls to appeal to me and as far as I'm concerned those two homo cars (srt-4 and evo) must have had their nuts clipped.
Also, regarding street racing....it's illegal...who gives a crap if a neon beat a GT on the street. The track is where it counts and with equal drivers I have a hard time believing the neon will post better times. I have this same debate with this moron supra owner who tells me he smokes 03 Cobras from a roll on the street, but yet posts the same times at the track as an 03.

Bottom line...where it counts(the track) , there's no comparison to a rear wheel drive v8...whether it's a stang or an f-body/vette.
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Old 07-18-2003, 03:31 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I think this is pretty funny....trying to compare a limp wristed car like an evo or srt-4 to a man's car like a mustang.
You guys crack me up
Put that in your pipe and smoke it !!
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Old 07-18-2003, 04:56 PM   #56 (permalink)
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KillrCobra, your ignorance is very amusing...what are you running at the track in your car?
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Old 07-18-2003, 06:00 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I think this is pretty funny....trying to compare a limp wristed car like an evo or srt-4 to a man's car like a mustang.
You guys crack me up

Seriously though....a neon is a neon is a neon...i don't give a rat's ass what it will run.
Oops, I mean cheezfrogs honda is only a honda, right? Then you watch him walk past your sorry ass.
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Old 07-18-2003, 06:27 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I give it respect for the fact of what it is for the $$$.
It does out perform the v6 mustang and does seems to be about equal to newer gt's(stock) so i say it's a good buy if you don't have the extra cash for a gt.
But comparing a neon to a 03 cobra is like comparing V.Ice to Slim anus....there in 2 different worlds.
I say take the extra cash you'd pay on a 03 cobra and put it in the neon and see what happens, "IF" it does make enough power to brag about after the money saved, i say good buy, if not, well you just made a bad choice, something we all do atleast once in life.


Sorry i can't hate on it just because it's not a Ford/Mustang....it seems to make good stock power for the money so i give it thumbs up

Btw, this is only my opinion(no flames)

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Old 07-18-2003, 09:02 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Seriously though....a neon is a neon is a neon...
Well then, that means that a mustang is a mustang is a mustang. Therefore your 01 mustang cobra is the equivelent of a v6 base model mustang. Congratulations!!!


Note: I don't like neons.

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I think this is pretty funny....trying to compare a limp wristed car like an evo or srt-4 to a man's car like a mustang.
You guys crack me up

Seriously though....a neon is a neon is a neon...i don't give a rat's ass what it will run.
And as far as the evo goes...it's kinda weird that shitsubishi makes their economy car faster than their sports car(eclipse)...if you can really call it a sports car anymore.

A car needs to have balls to appeal to me and as far as I'm concerned those two homo cars (srt-4 and evo) must have had their nuts clipped.
Also, regarding street racing....it's illegal...who gives a crap if a neon beat a GT on the street. The track is where it counts and with equal drivers I have a hard time believing the neon will post better times. I have this same debate with this moron supra owner who tells me he smokes 03 Cobras from a roll on the street, but yet posts the same times at the track as an 03.

Bottom line...where it counts(the track) , there's no comparison to a rear wheel drive v8...whether it's a stang or an f-body/vette.
Ignorance at it's best. You haven't even test drove either car so how can you say it doesn't have balls. I'm ashamed that you even own a Cobra. This stupid elitist attitude some of you guys have is ridiculous. I guess the BMW M3 has no balls either right because it's not a rearwheel drive V8 right? Or even this right here. Run one of those at the track or street.

Also if you are so unconcerned about what an SRT-4 will run then why even worry that it beat a GT on the street and that they should go to the track?
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Well then, that means that a mustang is a mustang is a mustang. Therefore your 01 mustang cobra is the equivelent of a v6 base model mustang. Congratulations!!!


Note: I don't like neons.
Wrong... Neon's claim to fame is economy. The Mustangs claim to fame was its V8 Front engine RWD setup.
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http://www.ponysite.de/alanmann.htm

Read through that... Thats history the Neon couldnt ever hope to have.
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:33 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Wrong... Neon's claim to fame is economy. The Mustangs claim to fame was its V8 Front engine RWD setup.
I agree the neons claim to fame(if thats what you want to call it) is economy but the srt-4's claim to fame isn't, just as the v6 mustang's claim to fame is economy as well but the V-8 mustang's claim to fame is performance. See what I'm getting at.
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I agree the neons claim to fame(if thats what you want to call it) is economy but the srt-4's claim to fame isn't, just as the v6 mustang's claim to fame is economy as well but the V-8 mustang's claim to fame is performance. See what I'm getting at.
Yes but the neon is known for being an economy car... Which is its claim to fame... The car in general not just a performance package.

The original 101hp inline six option found in a 1964 Mustang did not make the car famous, thus a six cylinder engine is not the mustangs claim to fame. People have always known it as an all american Performance coupe.

When people see a Mustang they see a car with a light racing history, a very rich history on the streets, and a famous name. When the general population see's an SRT-4, no matter how fast it is, They'll always just see it as a souped up economy car and thats my point.

You'll never here anybody say "Oh those mustangs are just economy car's with V8's and superchargers!!"

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You'll never here anybody say "Oh those mustangs are just economy car's with V8's and superchargers!!"
Let's hope not anyway.
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http://libsys.ucr.edu/~simonian/down..._SRT4_roll.mov

some of you have probably seen it in the other thread about how the srtforums go off on Mustangs(SRT-4 Forum going off on Mustangs)
just pass around the vid, and lets make it clear- neons- err "srt 4's" are only good for seeing tail lights
next vids are gonna be evo's and wrx's getting smoked

Go pick on an STI in the 1/8th mile, you will probably be singing a different tune....
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Go pick on an STI in the 1/8th mile, you will probably be singing a different tune....
1\8th mile racing against a AWD vehicle just isnt fair (just kidding) but i think the racing in the 1\8th is pointless, it only shows the cars very bottom end. by the way, theres a vid floating around of a sti beating on alot of cars in teh 1\8th, but right before the vid ends, a Stang(think it was a Cobra) was kicking its a$$, i'll see if i can find it.
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I went to the track Friday night and saw an WRX STI run and he could only muster a 14.7 time. I was like WTF is going on aren't these cars fast. Everyone without slicks was having trouble hooking up but you figure all wheel drive would help. In this case I guess not. I saw a 2002 WRX run 14.70 the same as the 03 STI but maybe the couldn't drive, but still all wheel drive. Come on. It was funny though cause all these imports dorks thought it would take out an 03 lightning but it wasn't the case. The lightning went 13.80 spinning a bit in the first 60 feet but just left the WRX STI in the end. I thought he would lose cause the truck was brand new with no mods and STI's are fast and all wheel drive. That is one import that gets my respect though. I guess the driver in the WRX STI is still getting used to the car.
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True I believe that 1/4 mile really shows what a car has, but in a lot of places there are only 1/8 tracks. All i'm saying is that if you pull up next to one and it has a driver who can drive it watch out.

That kid at the track with the STI must not know how to drive. I was doing 14.2's in my WRX when it was stock. Launching AWD to get those great launches is pretty hard and takes some practice.
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I never understood how there could be a technique to launching AWD... You have all the traction in the world, this may sound alittle arogent but does that mean you throw it into drive or first and floor it?

I thought that was the whole point...
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Actually I would think that AWD drive bog easier than 2WD so there must be a technique to launching it.
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Well I went from a 98 cobra to the wrx. So when I first started launching it at the track it felt like too much traction if that makes any sense. Basically had so much traction it would bog so you would have to leave the line around 4500 to 5000 rpm to do it and slip the clutch right because you couldn't just drop it because of the weak 5 speed in them. It's great once you get it down, I will admit it is taking me more time to learn to launch my cobra than the WRX.
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evo's have ABSOLUTELY zero top end, a chip/pullied/exhuast 03 cobra would pull that shyt in so damn quick.....see thats yall problems, that AWD shyt have yall evo/wrx owners hypnotized..... i bet you can't F*ck with a chip/pullied/exhaust 03 cobra with some 4.10's out back, lol watch how fast you'd get walked down and trampeled.......BET!

oh and as far as handles go, i'd pay to see a evo/wrx outhandle an 00 cobra R or a kenny brown cobra

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evo's have ABSOLUTELY zero top end, a chip/pullied/exhuast 03 cobra would pull that shyt in so damn quick.....see thats yall problems, that AWD shyt have yall evo/wrx owners hypnotized..... i bet you can't F*ck with a chip/pullied/exhaust 03 cobra with some 4.10's out back, lol watch how fast you'd get walked down and trampeled.......BET!

oh and as far as handles go, i'd pay to see a evo/wrx outhandle an 00 cobra R or a kenny brown cobra

Hey genius I was refering to the 1/8th mile if you took the time to read my post above. I have an 03 Cobra and I know what it can do in the quarter mile against a WRX thank you very much. I have taken cobra's before at street lights who thought the same as you did, now they know better.

As far as the 00 cobra R and kenny brown comment, how about you bring one of them to the WORLD RALLY CROSS in Germany this weekend and watch those little EVO's and STI's bitch slap your ass around the course...
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