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Old 03-29-2009, 03:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Motor Trend tests Mustang vs Challenger vs Camaro

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Why don't they compare the Camaro with the SRT8 Challenger and GT500?
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Old 03-29-2009, 03:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Not exactly a fair comparison..... 426 HP... verses 376 and 315... who do you think is gonna win!!

At least the mustang handles better and with some minor upgrades it can beat the Camaro in the quarter mile still for under the price that the Camaro will wind up going for after dealer mark up... The mustang won't have as much "power" but will still be faster....
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useless comparison... they should have just carted the V-6 mustang and Challenger out there
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The GT500 and SRT8 are $10,000 more than the Camaro.
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Why don't they compare the Camaro with the SRT8 Challenger and GT500?
They wanted to get them all in the same price range. The Camaro is priced in the same range as the other 2.... but that is only a "suggested" price.... and Ford does't have a 400hp model just yet.... but I hear a 400+HP NA 5.4 is coming in the form of a Mach 1 or a Boss... still a lot lighter than the Maro.....
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They wanted to get them all in the same price range. The Camaro is priced in the same range as the other 2.... but that is only a "suggested" price.... and Ford does't have a 400hp model just yet.... but I hear a 400+HP NA 5.4 is coming in the form of a Mach 1 or a Boss... still a lot lighter than the Maro.....
there is a thread some where on here from 2 very in the know people who post / use to post here that said 2011 will be a 400hp N/A 5.0 motor.
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there is a thread some where on here from 2 very in the know people who post / use to post here that said 2011 will be a 400hp N/A 5.0 motor.
Yeah, I heard that as well... maybe the people I heard it from were it a bit confused.... or maybe that is what they were hoping for.... I think a 5.4 would be awesome myself...they already have the engine.... just throw it into a car with some decent heads sans charger....
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Not exactly a fair comparison..... 426 HP... verses 376 and 315... who do you think is gonna win!!

At least the mustang handles better and with some minor upgrades it can beat the Camaro in the quarter mile still for under the price that the Camaro will wind up going for after dealer mark up... The mustang won't have as much "power" but will still be faster....
why not? they went by price range...and technically, the ss camaro is the same model range as the gt and r/t. gm just upped the ante by throwin the ls3 in there

the results are to be expected. the '10 stang is pretty much a stop gap car so ford can release the new motors once the camaro hype has died down.

unfortunetely, right now there is too much of a gap between powertrains to equally compare the 3
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There all in the same price range.. Very fair Comparision
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After watching that video i think either one of the three would be a good choice.
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Not exactly a fair comparison..... 426 HP... verses 376 and 315... who do you think is gonna win!!

At least the mustang handles better and with some minor upgrades it can beat the Camaro in the quarter mile still for under the price that the Camaro will wind up going for after dealer mark up... The mustang won't have as much "power" but will still be faster....
Dealer mark up?? Around here they are going for sticker prices
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There all in the same price range.. Very fair Comparision
+1, comparing the camaro to the GT500 wouldn't be fair.
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Dealer mark up?? Around here they are going for sticker prices
I like your Cobalt.


Out of the three I would take the Mustang in Grabber Blue despite the performance. I admit that the Challenger looks killer too and can be found at sticker around here, the Camaro will be marked up for sure especially by our shitty local Chevy dealer
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whats the SRT-8 package offer.
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6.1 hemi....425hp, among other things
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Out of the three I would take the Mustang in Grabber Blue despite the performance. I admit that the Challenger looks killer too and can be found at sticker around here, the Camaro will be marked up for sure especially by our shitty local Chevy dealer
thanks!! yea the new mustang is growing on me quick! cant wait to see when they offer the more powerful engine! i am definitely gonna wanna pick one up if not a shelby. In general though all three cars are nice and i wouldnt mine having anyone of them in their high-end forms (gt500, z28, srt8).

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the mustang is DEFINATLY the most impressive(c'mon, the camaro win was expected!)! i mean, who the hell would have thought that there would actually be positive remarks about the solid axle from a mainstream mag??? **** yes for ford!
the challenger, on the other hand, is really disapointing. you would figure that chryco would give it some minor performance upgrades to fight the camaro like ford did with the 'stang.
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I'll take the Mustang any day, no question, especially if Ford goes through with the 5.0 next year. I gotta commend GM on the Camaro, they did what they said they we're going to do, but I just don't like the styling of it at all, and thet interior is hideous. Challenger is cool, but too heavy. I gotta admit, the R/T stripes look sweet. Ford has stepped up with the new Mustang, just give me a little more power and it's the perfect car in my opinion.
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I was going to post this video but I searched!

The Mustang GT is very impressive! It beat the Challenger in the 1/4 with tons of HP less. The Mustang is also the best looking of the three IMHO!
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Why don't they compare the Camaro with the SRT8 Challenger and GT500?
Because the GT500 and SRT8 have printed production numbers and are top of the line cars, the SS is just a factory V8 car.
A fair comparison would be the new Z28 against the GT500 and SRT8.

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+1, comparing the camaro to the GT500 wouldn't be fair.
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Not exactly a fair comparison..... 426 HP... verses 376 and 315... who do you think is gonna win!!
Just because the Mustang is a slower factory car with outdated technology doesn't make it an unfair comparison.
Thats Ford's decision.

Im not a Ford hater I have even owned a 2V but dollar per HP Ford has always had trouble keeping up.
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