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Old 03-31-2009, 12:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Edmunds test: ZR1 vs. GTR

Hopefully not a repost. I checked the first 5 pages...

But this is SVT so it probably is a repost. suit on!

YouTube - ZR1 Smokes GT-R: Chevy Corvette ZR1 vs. Nissan GT-R
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sorry man, repost! lol
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Good stuff. That ZR1 is just wicked...
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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sorry man, repost! lol
Everything is a repost on here. Probably why I never make threads anymore lmfao.

Something could happen this second and it has been posted on here already
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I guess Edmunds hasnt drank the Jap Koolaid everyone else has of late
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Damn those guys in Youtube are swinging on the GTR's nuts.
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Everything is a repost on here. Probably why I never make threads anymore lmfao.

Something could happen this second and it has been posted on here already

Here's one way to keep from reposting. Look at the date on the vid you posted. 10/28/2008. If the video is over two weeks old, there's a really high probability it has been posted especially if it has cars like the ZR1 and GTR in it.
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Everything is a repost on here. Probably why I never make threads anymore lmfao.

Something could happen this second and it has been posted on here already
I know i was just busting balls.

good vid anyway ZR1 FTW
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I can't stand reading YouTube comments. Bunch of morons.

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Repost, but I still love how the ZR1 smokes the GTR the entire time, and at the end with the burn out. haha
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Damn those guys in Youtube are swinging on the GTR's nuts.
Because nobody on youtube uses their heads.
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I guess Edmunds hasnt drank the Jap Koolaid everyone else has of late
But they bought a GTR for their long term tester
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ok so i just watched this video, and I really dont understand why everyone humps the gtr the zr1 just put it to shame porsche also put it to shame cause they where lying about #. Ive seen a million videos there gtr is getting its ass handed to it so someone tell me what the big f'n deal is about this car? It must be that break ur trans option that has everyone. This car is a flop!!!
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Couldnt agree more. Its seems more and more auto media is siding against america. The ironic part is that these publication's are based IN AMERICA In these times we need everyone to buy OUR cars so that we can keep AMERICANS working
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ok so i just watched this video, and I really dont understand why everyone humps the gtr the zr1 just put it to shame porsche also put it to shame cause they where lying about #. Ive seen a million videos there gtr is getting its ass handed to it so someone tell me what the big f'n deal is about this car? It must be that break ur trans option that has everyone. This car is a flop!!!
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Repost, but I still love how the ZR1 smokes the GTR the entire time, and at the end with the burn out. haha
Why is everyone surprised at the outcome? What would your impression be if we where to compare a Mustang GT vs 911 Turbo? Exactly! Its a stupid comparison in which two cars where never meant to be compared.
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Why is everyone surprised at the outcome? What would your impression be if we where to compare a Mustang GT vs 911 Turbo? Exactly! Its a stupid comparison in which two cars where never meant to be compared.
yeah but compare prices of a mustang gt to a 911 turbo! big difference!, gtr compared to a zr1 on the price is not that big.
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Why is everyone surprised at the outcome? Its a stupid comparison in which two cars where never meant to be compared.
It became fair game when Nissan made the bogus claim that their 480hp 3800# supercar could run in the 7:20's at the 'ring


Lesson learned here: When you pick a fight with the big boys, you better be ready to back it up when called out.
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It became fair game when Nissan made the bogus claim that their 480hp 3800# supercar could run in the 7:20's at the 'ring


Lesson learned here: When you pick a fight with the big boys, you better be ready to back it up when called out.
And why didn't they run 7:29? Because Porsche said they didn't ? Porsche doesn't even have a video providing proof that they even test the GTR....all heresay!

Nissan never compared it's GTR to the ZR1. It was always against the 911. Further, where was the comparo against the Z06? That's right, the Z06 was constantly abused/ass raped in every other comparison test against the GTR.

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When we went to print, we couldn't get anybody to deny the time, and due to the margin between Magnussen's time and Merro's 7:26.4, we felt the '22.4 lap time was entirely plausible.

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yeah but compare prices of a mustang gt to a 911 turbo! big difference!, gtr compared to a zr1 on the price is not that big.
You just contradicted yourself. If price was the concern, then why not test it against the Z06 and not ZR1?
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And why didn't they run 7:29? Because Porsche said they didn't ? Porsche doesn't even have a video providing proof that they even test the GTR....all heresay!

Nissan never compared it's GTR to the ZR1. It was always against the 911. Further, where was the comparo against the Z06? That's right, the Z06 was constantly abused/ass raped in every other comparison test against the GTR.

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Not one magazine has rated the Z06 over the GTR.

Now, what say who....:



Now tell me who lied about their ringtime

Oops, it looks like there was a 3rd party witness to Porsche's claim

2009 Nissan GTR vs 2009 Porsche 911 GT2 - Nurburgring Nordschleife Racetrack- Automobile Magazine

That should be enough to put Nissan's B.S. claim to rest.

FACT: Numerous Z06's have run bottom 11's at over 125
FACT: No GTR's have even come close in the real world

And the claim about the ZR1 was just a wild internet rumor. Unlike Nissan, GM NEVER made the claim.

Any more misinformantion you wish to spread?
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It became fair game when Nissan made the bogus claim that their 480hp 3800# supercar could run in the 7:20's at the 'ring


Lesson learned here: When you pick a fight with the big boys, you better be ready to back it up when called out.
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Correct. The whole thing is false. Confirmed it directly with someone on the Corvette program who would know this.

As an aside, GM does not take seriously Dodge's run with the ACR because the car was not in street-legal trim. See page 24 of the November 2008 Car and Driver for more on the specific FMVSS statutes an ACR with its crucial front splitter (1/3rd more front downforce) violates. Lowering the car as they did was even worse. That was a material handling edge and the ride height would no longer have been street legal. Non street legal is a slippery credibility slope that GM is not only not going on but has gone to great pains to disclaim with the ZR1's run. Those who think a given car is OK even if not street legal as long as it or its non street-legal mods are provided by a manufacturer should be advised that this line of thinking can be taken to its logical extreme ending with turn key factory provided race cars from Dodge, Porsche and GM.

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In any event, there is something GM can do to the Vette and still remain essentially "stock". Watch for it next year when Ring season opens. Remember where you heard it first.

Moderator should lock this thread as the claimed Ring time is factually incorrect. No such run took place.

That was taken directly from the Corvetteforum.
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That was taken directly from the Corvetteforum.
Who cares what some random person said on a car forum. The GTR got called out and simply didn't measure up.

It's all moot anyway, as the GTR's launch control is gone because of its tin foil drivetrain. Back to mid/high 12's.
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