that doesnt look like a 10 second camaro, not saying it isnt but it for sure doesnt look like it.
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ha thats what i was gonna say
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I don't buy it.. A stock 2003 EVO VIII weighs over 4000lbs man, even with decent weight reduction you're still looking at 3700-3800lbs.. The Viper stock only weighs 3436lbs. There is no way an 3700lb EVO making 600awhp can walk a 3400lb 674rwhp Viper from a roll like that.. It just doesn't make sense..
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?? The cubr weight of an Evo is in the 3350 neighboorhood. no where near 4000. The viper is around 3700 iirc.
I think the viper is a bit lower on power than that. The same evo only put 2 lengths on a porte eaton/spray cobra that made 660/712. cobra's and vipers are also about the same weight.
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Uhhhhm Evo VIII's actually weigh 3,200 from the factory. We were talking about it last night before the race, the Viper and Evo are actually very similar in weight.
Torque is not wins you races, as you can see in this vid.
Torque sure does help win races. Especially if you can get a nice instant jump on a car with it, and then hold it off with a good amount of HP. Evo had crazy traction in the first race, and was brake boosting in the second, negating the viper's massive torque advantage.
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You're right. Torque has nothing to do with acceleration. The hamsters on wheels are what get the car going...
Torque has everything to do with acceleration!! HP gets you to high speeds, torque is the instant acceleration you feel.
Exactly, look at most small motors with huge turbos, if the the leave the line at idle they are slow because of lack of torque. Hp is calculated from trq on the dyno.
You're right. Torque has nothing to do with acceleration. The hamsters on wheels are what get the car going...
Torque has everything to do with acceleration!! HP gets you to high speeds, torque is the instant acceleration you feel.
How can a car continue to accelerate once torque is descending(see dyno graph)?
Torque only measures where hp will end up. Horsepower is a measurement of work and torque is defined as being a rotational force. I would rather have torque in higher rpm's with a linear curve than peak hp down low. What if you had an engine that made 10,000ft/lbs of torque easily. But it ran at 1rpm. (10000ft/lbs * 1rpm) / 5252 = 1.904 hp.
(3 ft/lb of torque @ 2 RPM) / 5252 = .0011424 HP
(1 ft/lb of torque @ 8 RPM) /5252 = .0015232 hp
The reason why the Evo continues to pull is due to rpm and the ability to take advantage of gearing.
The reason why the Evo continues to pull is due to rpm and the ability to take advantage of gearing.
Sorry man, you are being totally retarded if you think two similar weight cars, and the one with 600awhp car is pulling bus lengths on a 675rwhp car. A car that thrives on high speed runs to boot.
This has nothing to do with this being a Viper. As has been stated already, HP is HP. That Evo had at least 100rwhp advantage to pull the way he did.
We are not at all questioning who won (it's clear as day), but questioning the reported power numbers for each car.
Man that has to suck you think you got the shit, roughfully $70 + car goinging against maybe $25 + car rips ya a new one i know id feel like shitProps to the evo makes me wont one.
Man that has to suck you think you got the shit, roughfully $70 + car goinging against maybe $25 + car rips ya a new one i know id feel like shitProps to the evo makes me wont one.
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Trust me, I would not feel like shit at all if a Evo kicked my ass. There is always someone faster, and when it's all said and done, I go home in a Viper and he goes home in a glorified Lancer.
Not trying to be pompous, just telling it like it is.
Explain to me then how it accelerates your car! People are so quick to point out what they've been taught, but offer no rebuttal.
25psi god dude you just stick your foot in your mouth in every single thread, if you had taken a simple physics class in high school you would know that torque is the cause of acceleration.....there is no need for an explanation or rebuttal when dumb ass retarded statements like you made are typed in this thread or any other automotive thread
Props to the evo makes me wont one.
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