he didnt say that 192 was the record for twin screw cobra. he just said that was his previous time shredding a belt and that he is going to try in the future to break some record, right? or are you saying he has the cars confused?
He was implying that jermey went 192 which in fact he didnt. i think he was 168mph tops with a broken belt. if i remeber correctly. I talked to him during the event and he showed the signs of fustration i am all to familiar with.
one a second note the Texas mile is a heart breaker for most. like said in a previous statement. i went out the very first time thinking i could do 180+ with my stock cobra at teh time. the fastest i could do was 164mph......
I think he just meant top speed, not necessarily in just 1 mile.
I know. I just meant that dude was talking his build up so insanely, you'd think he'd enter it in something like this. Then again, those who do the most talking, are the ones the least likely to back it up.
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The next Texas Mile record car I believe will be a Gallardo TT....The Vipers just flat out have some funky aerodynamic issues that are hitting a wall. They can get up to speed plenty good past the mile but just seems like they hit a wall around 190 mph where the acceleration just start slowing down.
The next Texas Mile record car I believe will be a Gallardo TT....The Vipers just flat out have some funky aerodynamic issues that are hitting a wall. They can get up to speed plenty good past the mile but just seems like they hit a wall around 190 mph where the acceleration just start slowing down.
I think the bigger issue than aero for the Vipers is 5th gear holding up. I don't think one of the 1500+ rwhp ones have been able to make a single pass without something in the tranny letting go.
A viper has been up to 246 on the salt flats, which would be much higher on a paved road, so it does have the ability to hit those speeds. Doing it in 5280ft is another matter.
I think SW is going to blow everyone out of the water.....again. Everyone is busy just trying to approach his record, while I've got a funny feeling that he's got his sights set on a 250+ run.
Exactly....they have gone faster past the 1 mile point. Which tells ya it's more then just the trans holding up. Another part of the problem is that for some reason a lot of the big swingin dick Viper guys just don't get that involved in the TX Mile stuff. It's going to take a lot to beat SW's record especially when he has so much more experience then most guys there with the setup....so I think a lot of the Viper guys just don't bother. The big difference with the 1,500 rwhp Supra crowd and the 1,500 rwhp Viper crowd is that most the Viper guys are damn near DD'ing those cars...and beating SW is going to take a balls out race car.
Exactly....they have gone faster past the 1 mile point. Which tells ya it's more then just the trans holding up. Another part of the problem is that for some reason a lot of the big swingin dick Viper guys just don't get that involved in the TX Mile stuff. It's going to take a lot to beat SW's record especially when he has so much more experience then most guys there with the setup....so I think a lot of the Viper guys just don't bother. The big difference with the 1,500 rwhp Supra crowd and the 1,500 rwhp Viper crowd is that most the Viper guys are damn near DD'ing those cars...and beating SW is going to take a balls out race car.
Didn't SW break the record with only about 1300whp? I thought I heard that he has a lot left on the table as far as power goes.
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c'mon guys, the supra isn't *special*, with .32Cd. the viper GTS is just behind, at .35Cd(same as the SSC ultimate aero). FD RX7s are at .29Cd, and C5/C6 vettes, and 997 911s are at .28Cd.
i think the reason the supra is at the top of the board in the mile is because it came from the factory better equipped to be built for a mile car than the viper, vette, RX7, or 911(transmission issues). it's just a good package to start with, but it's not like these other cars can't be built for the same thing(hell, shove a supra tranny in there if it's really that bad, LOL). why set your self up for more work than you need to when there is an easier starting point?
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CD tells only half the story the Ford GT has the smallest frontal area and the least amount of diminishing returns aero wise of all the 1 mile top speed shootout cars.
the Viper has a better CD than the Ford GT but has a bigger frontal area. the vipers transmission is the biggest issue at this point though as no one makes a 6th gear that can take a quick 1500 rwhp shift at speed under full boost with all that torque.
if the Ford GT's transaxle can handle 1500 RWHP look for some BIG speeds out of it otherwise my $$$ are still on the Supra to win......
the Supra has a lower CD than the Viper or the Ford GT. the Supra also has a bullet proof drivetrain. also the Supra can do 240+ mph in the mile with only 5 gears whereas the Viper and the Ford GT have to use 6 gears (less time spent shifting = more speed).
given enough power the Ford GT has the gearing to do 260 mph in 6th gear at a mere 6,500 rpm's. in 5th gear the GT will do 235 mph at 7,000 rpm's. Atmospheric conditions permitting i bet a Ford GT could max out 5th gear in the mile with a good driver and good traction
i want to see what a TT gallardo is capable of too. i bet that Heffner Gallardo that pulled a wheelie at the dragstrip could throw down some BIG speed at the mile. i am not sure what the trans or rear gear ratios are in a Gallardo though......
race tracks with turns are a whole different story though. take all these cars to the Silver State Classic or the Bonneville 100 or the BIG Bend open road race and the GT will eat all these cars alive
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I´m not quite sure which Underground Racing cars are going. But i have some pics of the two Supras which are in the top 2 places and have both went over 240+mph in the mile
there are a lot of other cars that attend this event also. But here are a few pics.
I dont know if this 1997 TT GTS Viper will be there but it was recently built and is being tested in a standing 1/2 and 1 mile at the silver state classic this weekend
This viper just made 950RWHP on 4 psi.
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So we have been building this monster for a while now and she is finally running.
The videos are pretty crappy as my video camera took a s**t and i had to use the digital camera.
Set up is fully built GTS-R block, striker heads, dry sumped, twin Bullseye power S380's, MoTec, Tilton, brembo, ect...
We are set to test her at the silver state classic this weekend in the standing 1/2 and 1 mile.
They dyno would not hold the TQ at 6 psi and exceeded 950 LBFT and aprox 1070 hp before it shut down at 5500 rpm.
Special thanks to Shane Tecklenburg for the MoTec set up and tuning and Greg Pyles at GP motorsport for the wiring.
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race tracks with turns are a whole different story though. take all these cars to the Silver State Classic or the Bonneville 100 or the BIG Bend open road race and the GT will eat all these cars alive
The GT would probably win, but I'd bet they'd all crash first because the track would be fogged in with tire smoke, lol.
CD tells only half the story the Ford GT has the smallest frontal area and the least amount of diminishing returns aero wise of all the 1 mile top speed shootout cars.
the Viper has a better CD than the Ford GT but has a bigger frontal area. the vipers transmission is the biggest issue at this point though as no one makes a 6th gear that can take a quick 1500 rwhp shift at speed under full boost with all that torque.
if the Ford GT's transaxle can handle 1500 RWHP look for some BIG speeds out of it otherwise my $$$ are still on the Supra to win......
the Supra has a lower CD than the Viper or the Ford GT. the Supra also has a bullet proof drivetrain. also the Supra can do 240+ mph in the mile with only 5 gears whereas the Viper and the Ford GT have to use 6 gears (less time spent shifting = more speed).
given enough power the Ford GT has the gearing to do 260 mph in 6th gear at a mere 6,500 rpm's. in 5th gear the GT will do 235 mph at 7,000 rpm's. Atmospheric conditions permitting i bet a Ford GT could max out 5th gear in the mile with a good driver and good traction
i want to see what a TT gallardo is capable of too. i bet that Heffner Gallardo that pulled a wheelie at the dragstrip could throw down some BIG speed at the mile. i am not sure what the trans or rear gear ratios are in a Gallardo though......
race tracks with turns are a whole different story though. take all these cars to the Silver State Classic or the Bonneville 100 or the BIG Bend open road race and the GT will eat all these cars alive
I can't believe the turbos even worked at 4psi...and whoever said that the supra can do it in 5th and the vipers have to use 6th etc, why can't they just change the rear end gears?
race tracks with turns are a whole different story though. take all these cars to the Silver State Classic or the Bonneville 100 or the BIG Bend open road race and the GT will eat all these cars alive
Don't be too sure of that, Freddy. First off, the Supra, stock, was capable of .95 Gravity on the skidpad in 1993, when it first came out. In 1997, a Blitz modified, but still street-legal Supra ran a 7:49 lap on the Nurburgring. That's still slower than a stock GT's 7:40, but that's right there with a stock C6Z. Now, add-in about 12 years of suspension technology and knowledge from when that run was made, I'd say it'd put up a good run against any modern car, mod-for-mod.
Now, if you're referring to these Supras that are suspensioned for straightline runs versus a stock-suspensioned GT, then yeah, you have a point. I don't know if the GT runners are optimizing their suspension as such.
Don't be too sure of that, Freddy. First off, the Supra, stock, was capable of .95 Gravity on the skidpad in 1993, when it first came out. In 1997, a Blitz modified, but still street-legal Supra ran a 7:49 lap on the Nurburgring. That's still slower than a stock GT's 7:40, but that's right there with a stock C6Z. Now, add-in about 12 years of suspension technology and knowledge from when that run was made, I'd say it'd put up a good run against any modern car, mod-for-mod.
Now, if you're referring to these Supras that are suspensioned for straightline runs versus a stock-suspensioned GT, then yeah, you have a point. I don't know if the GT runners are optimizing their suspension as such.
check out this Ford GT race teams website carbon fiber body, wing and more aero + sequential transmission, stiffer springs and resevoir shox. Bigger brakes and wider wheels and tires. all that and it only weighs 2552 lbs the rear engine design is a proven winner on the race track
I thought I read somewhere that the Saleen S7 was the most aerodynamically production car? Why hasn't someone build this car crazy?
When they did the 0-200-0 test they found out that the S7s excellent aerodynamics are actually its downfall. There's so much downforce that by 180-190 it's really fighting to push forward. Too much downforce will hurt you if you're going for top speed. It will be glued to the track though which is ultimately what it's made for.
check out this Ford GT race teams website carbon fiber body, wing and more aero + sequential transmission, stiffer springs and resevoir shox. Bigger brakes and wider wheels and tires. all that and it only weighs 2552 lbs the rear engine design is a proven winner on the race track
Oh. c'mon now, Freddy. If we're going to go that route, Supras have been GT racing in Japan and Asia for decades now. It's competed and won against Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches, Astons, and the vaunted McLaren F1 GTR. I'm sure there are more than a few Supras in the GT500 class that can beat the racecar you just posted.
I'm just countering your argument that seems to get erroneously used a lot against Mustangs--that it's only good in a straight line.
the Ford GT has the smallest frontal area and the least amount of diminishing returns aero wise of all the 1 mile top speed shootout cars.
carbon fiber body, wing and more aero + sequential transmission, stiffer springs and resevoir shox. Bigger brakes and wider wheels and tires. all that and it only weighs 2552 lbs 
the rear engine design is a proven winner on the race track 
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