I get the idea that Jamal Hameedi doesn't want anything to do with another Lightning. Maybe I'm wrong. But the problem he saw with the Lightning was that it always just performed well....for a truck. It could never do what a truck was intended to do.
The idea of a Raptor is so great because it allows the truck to perform in a truck environment. And, a factory prerunner has never been built, so they are totally setting the bar. I'm sure an offroad SVT truck is hard for a lot of SVT faithful to swallow though.
Since no one else is building any sort of serious sport truck anymore why would anyone cling to the idea that it makes good business sense for Ford to try it again? It was a passing fad, just like murals and side pipes on vans and coffee can exhaust on Civics. Ford might not sell enough Raptors either but at least they are willing to try something that no one else has done before and that has the potential to appeal to a much larger group of enthusiasts.
I have enjoyed lots of 5.0L Stangs, SVO's, and now my Terminator. But I have to admit that all winter long, I really like my Sierra 4x4. It drives through the deepest snow with its regular cab, flare side bed, and 5.3L engine. Even in the summer, I enjoy driving it over anything in my way. So, I am really lookng forward to this Raptor as a way that I can retire my Terminator Cobra Vert and Sierra 4x4 and get just one vehicle that can start a whole new chapter in fun. I am ready to turn in the muscle car keys and convert full time to a ford truck.
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2004 GMC Sierra 4x4 DD
Waiting on my Raptor
No longer own 82 Capri, 86 SVO, 89,91,93 LX 5.0L, 98 LS1, 02 LS1 Vert, 03 Cobra
A deal you couldn't refuse? Please elaborate! Is pricing out?
I have a deposit down with my dealer but they still don't have pricing or options.
no pricing isnt out yet. i cant elborate at the request of the dealer but being over here gives me options to apply leverage on a dealer to get what i want. where everyone else on the list has first right to refuse the truck. i have to buy for me to get the deal they gave me. options are most likely goin to be similar to the lightning just dealer installed (ie hitch and bed cover)
I plan on buying one. Saving for a down payment. May have to sell the '05 F-150, would be worth it. How come there is such a delay on pricing info? I want to know how much this thing will cost, anyone else?
Yes, under fifty grand would be great. I'm not counting on it though. I'll still be willing to buy one. It could be the greatest vehicle SVT has ever produced. Great for driving year round where I live, where the weather isn't always the best.
Was going to order a HD Superduty, but I think this will suit my needs better. Ability to tow my Lightning and all year performance. I think it is a great mix and the suspension technology is awsome.
Time to retire the Bronco.
The 50k price tag is killing the idea of this truck in my mind. We will see, truck prices are heavily discounted. I personally think this truck will get some discounts too, maybe not from day one but eventually.
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2006 BMW M3
2001 Laser Red Mustang GT: sold
2003 Oxford White Cobra: sold
2004 Competition Orange Cobra: sold
My current "truck" is a 2007 Sport Trac Limited 4x4 V8. It was the best alternative to the canceled SVT Adrenalin. While it is a good all-around vehicle I have had times when I definitely could have used a six foot bed instead of the little over four foot bed on the Trac. It runs and handles pretty damn well with the 4.6 3V, 6-speed, 3.55 gears and IRS. It also makes a decent hunting vehicle as long as you don't get too crazy off-road. I added a few bolts-ons: CAI, bigger throttle body, X-Cal2, Magnaflow cat-back and BFG 265/65/18 All-Terrain T/As.
The Raptor would be as versatile as the Trac has been with much greater off-road capabilities (understatement of the year) plus the bigger bed. Make mine Blue Flame with the 6.2 please.
It is killing me waiting on pricing from my dealership. I already sold my Terminator and have cash waiting. However, there is no way I am paying $50K for a pickup. It is nice out today, maybe it is time to visit a few Ford dealerships. The problem is that most have marked down GT500's and maybe even 2010 Mustangs which will all taunt me for a test drive.
Come on man, have you priced a new truck lately? My 08 fx4 supercrew MSRP was more than that. If they can get discounted down to that I'm in the market, MSRP at that price, I doubt it.
It is killing me waiting on pricing from my dealership. I already sold my Terminator and have cash waiting. However, there is no way I am paying $50K for a pickup. It is nice out today, maybe it is time to visit a few Ford dealerships. The problem is that most have marked down GT500's and maybe even 2010 Mustangs which will all taunt me for a test drive.
have you priced out pickups today? the 150 supercrews are selling for more than 40, and the 250 powerstrokes are at or above 50k. i priced out a new fx4 ext cab and it was 38 without nav or leather.
look at the mustangs. the gt500 are still 40k even with steep discouts. the new gt will be 35 with any type of decent options and the verts are at 40k. now the mustang is a toy pure and simple. it cant work and it cant tow a family around.
the raptor can do both! and unlike the lightning it can go offroad. raptor is a street maching, a station wagon family car, an off road camping utility vehicle, one that will let you get your household chores done(rocks, trees, plants, dirt), and a vehicle that you can contract yourself out with and get paid for! 5 cars for the price of 1 nice.
the mustang or any other small 2 door sports car only has one use. so before i go spending 40+ large on a toy, i will look long and hard at the 6.2 raptor!!!!! its a vehicle that i both need and can have balls to the wall fun with! not bad for a 50k dollar investment!
Well, I was spoiled buying new Fox cars for mid-teens, new LS1's for low 20's, and my Termy and GMC 4x4 for under 30. So, I was mentally prepared to go into the 40's but wasn't ready to skip the 40's and go right for the 50's. If I am going to drop $50K+ on a car or truck, I need to step back and check out all vehicles for that price. You start seeing Lexus GS, Acura Rl's, GT500's, M3's, and Power Stroke's. It gets a bit more complicated for me.
Well, I was spoiled buying new Fox cars for mid-teens, new LS1's for low 20's, and my Termy and GMC 4x4 for under 30. So, I was mentally prepared to go into the 40's but wasn't ready to skip the 40's and go right for the 50's. If I am going to drop $50K+ on a car or truck, I need to step back and check out all vehicles for that price. You start seeing Lexus GS, Acura Rl's, GT500's, M3's, and Power Stroke's. It gets a bit more complicated for me.
what if the raptor would pull better skidpad numbers than a 80k e55 when new????
the 6.2 raptor should be at 50k or below out the door.
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