03 Cobra vs 03 Z06

[gnxs]

Originally Posted by jeffs

11's stock 03 ZO6 UMMMM NO, I would bet a newer Z06 with 10 runs stock would have less than half of the runs in the 11's.

C5 Z06's (more than one) have been documented in the 11's. That's not in dispute. Yes the runs were made on the East coast in good weather with great drivers, but nonetheless it's been done several times over.

[z-eater]

Originally Posted by Quik Z06

The Camaro guy's stay stock (lol at least they say they do) oh wait or is it "cam only" Haha, sorry had to (sorry Marlon)

Anyway, from experience the Z should pull pretty easy stock vs stock.



Lol, that is true, but compare prices on those mods. Believe me it is ridiculously expensive to mod a Vette.

Thats why i sold mine. full exhaust was like $1500, bad A** car but i had to sell it.

Originally Posted by SBo3

It won't even be close dude. I've raced a lot of Z06s, in my experience it takes a 60-70rwhp advantage to overcome the weight.

Get bolt-ons and a 2.80 or 2.76 pulley and you will win, even then it won't be a slaughter.

I have beat pullied cobras before, i would usually pull away slow in 4th. not buy much but win is a win.

Originally Posted by res0n0xg

It sure as shit doesn't take 500 hp to beat a stock z06. they make like what, 350 to the wheels? a 500/500 cobra would WALK a stock z06 all day long.

Walk might happen, u should win with 500 at the wheels but it wont be a easy kill. mine old 02 Z06 was 3060lbs.

Originally Posted by 04A4GTO

+1 on the z06. I got my but handed to me the other day by a 03 Z06. The higher the speeds get the better the Z06 would pull.

+1

Originally Posted by jeffs

I thought the newer ZO6's with the 500hp 427 could squeak into the 11's stock, not the 03's. I did see an older ZO6 run at Firebird in Phoenix and it ran a 12.6 @116 with a clean launch and sounded like he powershifted cleanly the whole run. It did sound stock, exhaust wise anyways. I'd have to verify in person a stock older ZO6 run an 11 anything, and I would have to look at the car as well myself and not on youtube. But yes the 03 Z should cook a stock Cobra, by .2-.6 all day long equal drivers.

C5 Z06 have went 11s stock and C6 Z06 10s with sticky tires.

Originally Posted by SRT-4 Turbo 7

my buddy has an 02 Z06. Like everyone else said stock for stock it's ugly for the cobra, considering both are equal drivers. I have personally seen his bone stock Z go 12.0 @ 116.8mph. That and the higher the speed the uglier it gets.

Nice time for your buddy. my best was 12.23 117.00 mph with 2.00 60foot, street tires.

[2sick4v's]

Originally Posted by jeffs

12.6 @116

That 116 trap shows that it can go 11's! That et is all driver!

[BayareaSS]

Originally Posted by Quik Z06

The Camaro guy's stay stock (lol at least they say they do) oh wait or is it "cam only" Haha, sorry had to (sorry Marlon)

Anyway, from experience the Z should pull pretty easy stock vs stock.



Lol, that is true, but compare prices on those mods. Believe me it is ridiculously expensive to mod a Vette.

Cam only baby

Originally Posted by 2sick4v's

That 116 trap shows that it can go 11's! That et is all driver!

Exactly!

[Quik Z06]

Originally Posted by BayareaSS

Cam only baby

Lol, I had to mess with you it's been a while

[Trick Pony]

I have a bone stock '03 Z06 and like everyone else said, it's not pretty for a stock Cobra.
I also happen to have a pullied and bolt-on '03 Cobra motor in my stang and it puts buslengths on my Z06 in the 1/4. From a roll it's a little better for the Vette but the stang still pulls on it.

[jeffs]

When we talk stock do we mean tires as well, I would put a crisp 50 that an 03 Z06 bone stock given 5 runs wouldn't hit eleven but maybe once in good weather and a sticky track, of coarse I'd have to see the car and not on you tube, sorry #'s are easier to spit out than to actually put down.

[gnxs]

Originally Posted by jeffs

When we talk stock do we mean tires as well, I would put a crisp 50 that an 03 Z06 bone stock given 5 runs wouldn't hit eleven but maybe once in good weather and a sticky track, of coarse I'd have to see the car and not on you tube, sorry #'s are easier to spit out than to actually put down.

Nobody's saying it's easy or common, but the bottom line is that it's been documented, proven and generally accepted as factual. I know more than one of them have been accomplished at Atco (sticky track) in good air (they regularly see negative DAs in the Fall).

[GTSpartan]

Originally Posted by jeffs

When we talk stock do we mean tires as well, I would put a crisp 50 that an 03 Z06 bone stock given 5 runs wouldn't hit eleven but maybe once in good weather and a sticky track, of coarse I'd have to see the car and not on you tube, sorry #'s are easier to spit out than to actually put down.

Denial is bliss.

C5 Z06 Bone-Stock Times

1--11.783 @ 116.90--1.818--J-Rod---------'02
2--11.818 @ 117.26--1.783--Ranger--------'02 11/03 Slip
3--11.844 @ 117.91--1.761--Gary2004Z06--'04 11/07 Post 229, Slip
4--11.93x @ 119.xx--1.xxx --Esoteric-------'0x
5--11.97x @ 118.80--1.90x--GMHTP--------'04 03/04
6--11.99x @ 117.61--1.xxx --02Z06Racer---'02
7--12.048 @ 115.92--1.866--pwrshfd-------'02 12/03
8--12.08x @ 115.95--1.83x--Pray ----------'02 01/06 Slip
9--12.09x @ xxx.xx --1.79x--UVETTA -------'03
10-12.205 @ 117.96--1.91x--Nat04Z06 -----'04

12.21x @ 112.xx--1.87x--Blue Angel----'02 07/04
12.227 @ 115.09--2.011--ZR WON -----'01 04/04 Post 6
12.22x @ xxx.xx --1.77x--holedgr-------'02
12.25x @ 117.xx--1.xxx --J Z06 --------'04 05/06
12.27x @ 115.16--1.957--SpeedFreak81-'03 07/07
12.2xx @ 1xx.xx --2.xxx --My1stZ ------'03


C5 Z06 CAI and DOT Tire Times (drag radial and bias ply)

1--11.529 @ 120.21--1.641--Ranger------'02 11/04-HT CAI, 17" BFG Slip Video
2--11.596 @ 118.53--1.675--J-Rod --------'02 xx/xx --ZipTie, ET Street BP
3--11.5xx @ 118.xx --1.67x--fergy flyer ---'02 02/05--CAI, DR
4--11.656 @ 117.75--1.671--eb02z06------'02 10/02--VT CAI Slip
5--11.659 @ 116.97--1.645--PowerShifter -'0x 10/02--CAI, DR
6--11.694 @ 116.56--1.65x--BLU BY U -----'02 12/02--VR CAI, BFG DR
7--11.711 @ 115.53--1.653--Robert56 -----'02 06/05--VR CAI, 18" BFG DR Slip
8--11.756 @ 116.87--1.66x--Steve Row ----'0x xx/xx --CAI, DR
9--11.803 @ 116.95--1.765--procs2v-------'02 03/07--HT CAI, MT DR Slip
10-11.82x @ 118.8x--1.77x--Butcher-------'02 10/02--HT CAI

11.850 @ 116.42--1.668--427CPE -------'02 06/05--DR
11.882 @ 118.21--1.773--Purvis---------'02 04/07--K/N filter, Nittos
11.88x @ 118.xx --1.7xx--mike c. -------'0x 10/05--ET Street
11.930 @ 113.98--1.702--L98Terror-----'03 10/05--VR CAI, DR
11.93x @ 116.90--1.xxx --zular ---------'0x xx/xx --CAI
11.942 @ 114.78--1.675--dr.juice-------'03 07/05--ET Street
11.945 @ 117.71--1.xxx--phantasms ----'0x xx/xx --ZipTie
11.947 @ 116.65--1.823--Ranger -------'01 12/01--HT CAI, BFG DR Slip
11.948 @ 117.95--1.830--TheBigK-------'02 09/08--CAI, Post 315,Slip -Video
11.949 @ 117.61--1.xxx --Z06addikt ----'0x xx/xx --CAI, DR
11.957 @ 114.12--1.709--BMX----------'02 11/06--BW CAI, "17 ET St, Post 8
11.965 @ 118.36--1.869--TransAmGT---'03 01/07--Zip Tie, BFG DR Slip
11.966 @ 116.81--1.747--Cyric ---------'03 10/05--CAI, DR
11.967 @ 117.19--1.791--scramblerman -'02 04/07--VR CAI, MT ET ST, Post 247, Slip -Video
11.975 @ 116.01--1.825--Floman--------'02 11/08--HT CAI, Nitto DRs, Post #339
11.97x @ 117.97--1.74x--BlueZ06-------'03 xx/xx --CAI, DR
11.97x @ 117.97--1.74x--COUTO1981---'03 xx/xx --DR
11.988 @ 115.98--1.851--Gary2004Z06--'04 12/06--KN Filter
11.998 @ 116.95--1.810--Kamil ---------'03 11/06--ZT Mod, 18" BFG DR Slip
12.01x @ 114.74--1.864--Rooster ------'02 11/06--Kuhmos
12.032 @ 115.26--1.902--jlking---------'02 04/06--ZipTie, NT DR
12.049 @ 117.4x--1.900--rbartick-------'02 11/03--CAI
12.055 @ 114.54--1.748--m1key03Z06--'03 03/06--CAI, DR
12.07x @ 114.14--1.80x--MVR 155------'02 10/05--CAI
12.10x @ 116.xx--1.8xx--CamaroSS621 -'02 xx/xx--VR CAI, DR
12.135 @ 113.45--1.797-TransAm2002--'03 11/06--VR CAI, NT DR
12.149 @ 114.09--1.830--BonestockZ06-'03 09/07--CAI, BFG
12.16x @ 116.49--1.90x--MMC1---------'03 06/06--VR CAI
12.18x @ 114.78--1.81x--silverbullet2005 xx xx/xx--BFG DR
12.20x @ 118.00--1.xxx--ChicagoZ06----'02 xx/xx--CAI, DR
12.20x @ 116.2x--2.12x--NOYZEE-------'02 04/06--BW CAI
12.25x @ 113.1x--1.79x--Chris81--------'02 10/08--CAI
12.269 @ 115.38--1.877--KrisR----------'02 xx/xx--DR
12.280 @ 116.07--1.964--Mike69--------'01 xx/xx--CAI Video
12.821 @ 112.65--2.053--Z06 Stocker---'01 06/08--CAI, Firestone, Post 288

C5 Z06 External Bolt On Times (stock long-block)

1--10.890@125.06--1.465--GARY2004Z06--'04 12/08-VR CAI, DRs, ARH LTs, Clutch, Gears, Post #356
2--11.214@122.30--1.580---Dr Ron -------'03 11/05-VR CAI, ET St, LT, ClutchSlip
3--11.25x@123.7x--1.58x---Butcher-------'03 10/04-Bolt Ons, 3.90 gear
4--11.37x@123.7x--1.48x---PaulZ06-------'0x xx/xx -Bolt Ons, 3.73 gearVideo
5--11.405@123.61--1.616 --Qksiver-------'02 01/05-VR CAI, NT DR, Clutch Slip
6--11.442@122.51--1.643---spindoctor----'01 01/07-ET ST, CAI, LT
7--11.461@119.79--1.634---procs2v-------'02 04/08-HT CAI, MT DR, LT, Post 220 Video
8--11.598@119.38--1.722---N75196-------'04 03/07-LT, VR, Clutch, MT/DR Slip
9--11.661@118.86--1.702---MVR155 ------'02 11/07-LT, BW CAI, DR, Post 210 Slip
10-11.62x@11x.xx --1.66x---holedgr -------'02 xx/xx -Bolt Ons

11.733@118.32--1.757--Bonestockz06--'03 11/08-Stk LongBlk, LT's, CAI, DR's, Post #335
11.74x@119.78--1.74x---pro dh--------'02 06/07-VR, LT, 18" BFG Slip
11.760@119.14--1.718---Cyric---------'03 04/07-CAI, LT BFG 18"Slip
11.769 @ 115.96--1.57x--RooferDave---'03 06/04-Bolt Ons, 4.10 gear
11.78x @ 116.31--1.69x--CHIWS6 ------'03 11/07--VR, NT DR, LT, Post 224, Video
11.804 @ 118.xx--1.75x--dhajek--------'02 xx/xx-LT
11.818 @ 116.86--1.715--Higgs Boson--'01 10/07-CAI, LT, ET ST, Post 194,Slip
11.819 @ 116.11--1.680--19vette91----'02 03/06-LTs, VR, ET ST Radial, Post 257
11.82x @ 117.70--1.70x--Cheif Dave----'01 xx/xx-Bolt Ons
11.847 @ 117.93--1.775--96-speed-----'01 11/06-CAI, LT, Pulley, Post 15
11.85x @ 117.40--1.78x--Pray----------'01 xx/xx-Bolt Ons
11.86x @ 118.5x--1.82x--Blue Angel-----'02 09/04-LT, CB
11.896 @ 122.05--1.940--ZOHSIX-------'03 01/07-VR, LT
11.93x @ 120.97--1.86x--COUTO1981---'03 10/05-LT
11.96x @ 118.92--1.91x--AOC ----------'03 03/06-VR CAI, LT
11.982 @ 114.44--1.661-onequicksilverz06 '01 12/07-BFG DR, VR CAI, LT, Post 245
11.984 @ 115.02--1.75x--enderz06------'02 10/03-Bolt Ons
11.98x @ 117.63--1.830--MSiska--------'02 xx/xx-Bolt Ons
11.990 @ 114.5x--1.74x--McRat --------'02 10/02-Bolt Ons
12.089 @ 116.70--1.852--mqqn ---------'02 10/07-HT CAI, LT, F1s, Post 191,Slip
12.157 @ 116.62--1.823--Cdn Z06 Mike--'03 xx/xx-LT, Borla, VR, Tune, DR, Post # 334
12.22x @ 119.xx--2.05x--Moonder-------'03 01/08-LT, CAI, Nittos, Post 271
12.437 @ 116.66--2.121--Z06Electron---'03 10/07-FAST, LT, VR CAI, F1s, Post 204

[jeffs]

Hey I like to see someone with a little proof but again it will take more than a list for me to believe a stock 03 Z06 hitting 11's consistantly, let me guess C6 Z06's easily run 10's off the showroom and the new ZR1's can go 9's with my mom driving... Oh and we've all seen people claiming low to mid 12's with bone stock 03/04 Cobras as well but when you actually see one at the track it's a very high 12 to mid 13. Oh and let's not forget the good launch and clean powershifted 04 Cobra on pass time that ru a 12.3 now if that happened on the internet it would have also been a mid 11.

[jeffs]

BTW I'll type up a list for low 9 second LT1 Camoro's while I'm at it.

[gnxs]

If the only think it'll take is for you to see it in person, than you may never be convinced.

I've owned my Cobra for almost 5 years, have drag raced it many times each year (over 300 passes on it). I've been to the track as much as anybody but....get this.....I've never seen a BONE STOCK cobra run 12's. I've seen 13.0 at 110, I've seen friend's go low 13's, I never ran mine stock, but doubt I would have gone 12's with it.

However, that doesn't mean I don't believe bone stock Cobras haven't gone fairly deep into the 12's.

Maybe living in WY at altitude (an assumption on my part) has jaded you as to many cars' capabilities in great DA conditions with great drivers.

BTW, the Corvette Forum's qualifications for getting on the list are more stringent than almost any site out there (especially for a top-10 submission):

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[z-eater]

YouTube - Ranger C6Z06 10.85 Bone-Stock on Drag Radials

[redirocrt92]

I ran a 12.07@115 in my old 03 100% stock with a 2200 DA.

[GTSpartan]

Originally Posted by redirocrt92

I ran a 12.07@115 in my old 03 100% stock with a 2200 DA.

Nice

[z-eater]

YouTube - J-Rod goes 11.85 @ 114 in a bone stock Z06

YouTube - J-Rod goes 11.85 @ 114 in a bone stock Z06

[jeffs]

Oh and don't forget the C5 Z06 on pass time that was equipped with a twin screw blower I believe, "had a lexan window through the hood so you can see the blower", I even told my wife to watch "this one" then when it ran mid twelves, she rolled her eyes at me and it was a clean pass to boot, If I remenmber right. Reality does stink, but what do you do.

[jeffs]

After several visits to different tracks, I have come to the conclusion that people are VERY optimistic, SORRY PEOPLE, but any time a car runs in the 10's or low 11's that I have seen, it grabs your attention alot more than a stock Vette.

[jeffs]

Originally Posted by redirocrt92

I ran a 12.07@115 in my old 03 100% stock with a 2200 DA.

I ran a 13.2 @ 108 stock against a 2.2 KB at 19psi wich ran a 12.8@110 and he thought I had more mods, and was in disbelief because it was soo close.

[jeffs]

But yeah 12.07, sorry I'm not buying it.

[redirocrt92]

Here's a vid of the run. I have no reason to lie.
03 Z06 Bone stock on stock F-1's runs 12.07- Video

[jeffs]

I thought we were back on the Terminator, in wich 12.07 sounds impossible but I'm sure there are some extremely good drivers with a good luck streak in fast cars that can do it, but not on a regular basis. I believe your 12.07 in the Z06, but I'll bet you didn't have to many runs close to that again though. I think people believe thay can simply go pick up a stock C5 Z06, make 1 pass at the track and bring home an 11 second timeslip.

[jeffs]

Wich is dead wrong IMO.

[jeffs]

I watched your 12.07 pass "very nice" and also a great launch on street tires. "No cold air kit", "nothing"?

[jeffs]

I watched your 12.07 pass "very nice" and also a great launch on street tires. "No cold air kit", "nothing"?