LS2 GTO vs Terminator

[Mikeyb619]

My friend has a LS2 GTO which is pretty nice, for mods it has cold air intake, exhaust from headers back, and I believe it has a tune aswell. Just wondering how these cars would hold up to

a stock 03/04 cobra or maybe a pullied cobra...

thanks!

[rubber duck]

Light bolt on LS2 is a good match for a stock cobra, a pulley changes that.

[NA_Cobra]

Originally Posted by Mikeyb619

My friend has a LS2 GTO which is pretty nice, for mods it has cold air intake, exhaust from headers back, and I believe it has a tune aswell. Just wondering how these cars would hold up to

a stock 03/04 cobra or maybe a pullied cobra...

thanks!

Full bolton/tune GTO is good for 108-110 traps. a good run for a stock Termi.. A pullied Termi would yank a bolton GTO

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by NA_Cobra

Full bolton/tune GTO is good for 108-110 traps. a good run for a stock Termi.. A pullied Termi would yank a bolton GTO

Really? An LS2 GTO can trap 108~109mph bone stock...

Aside from the mph ranges you said being off I agree...good race for a stock termi but a pullied termi should run away.

[NA_Cobra]

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

Really? An LS2 GTO can trap 108~109mph bone stock...

Aside from the mph ranges you said being off I agree...good race for a stock termi but a pullied termi should run away.

In reality at the track, I've seen full bolt on GTOs go 108-110mph..... Magazines have them at 108

[LS2GTO]

Like others have mentioned, a stock terminator would be a good matchup with a bolt-on ls2. I trapped 106-107 all day in stock form, and now with bolts ons and a tune I'm getting 110s and 111s.

[98Snake03]

magazines are just for interest....they usually don't race at a strip, and their traps are 'actual' not 'average' like at the track.

It would be like posting a G-Tech time.

I say GTo loses every time.

I have seen stock Cobras run 111-113

[NA_Cobra]

Originally Posted by LS2GTO

Like others have mentioned, a stock terminator would be a good matchup with a bolt-on ls2. I trapped 106-107 all day in stock form, and now with bolts ons and a tune I'm getting 110s and 111s.

Exactly! as I stated above full bolt on tune GTOs 110mph

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by NA_Cobra

In reality at the track, I've seen full bolt on GTOs go 108-110mph..... Magazines have them at 108

You must live where the DA is crappy year round and high elevation? 643ft track here and I've seen it on more than one occasion. You know...in reality.. where I go to get track slips.

FWIW on the GTO boards bolt on only GTOs range from 107 ~ 114mph.
Top NA LS2 ET's - Modified - Bolt Ons / Tune Only: (must retain unmodified factory designated cylinder heads (no porting) camshaft and short block)

1) speedshifter 11.95 @ 112 kooks 1 7/8, borla, K&N CAI, ported tb, UDP
2)Old_Goat 12.126 @ 110.61 LPE CAI, X pipe, cutout, ARH 1 7/8 LT, 3200 vig,hpe tune
3) Caveman 12.173 @ 111.59 Kooks catted, X pipe-stock mufflers, LPE cai, Fuddle 3000
4) woodnutz 12.19@114.11 Kooks LT's, Spintech Catback, LPE CAI
5) MacDogg 12.201@111.70 LPE cai, kooks, tune, A4, viglante 3200
6) exturbo 12.304@113.24 SLP long tube headers, Spintech catback, volant cai
7) Bad GTO 12.326 @ 108.75 MPH vig 3200 stall, kooks LT
8) Kruul 12.349 @ 111.69 MPH yank 3200, LPE cai, SW LT no cats, magnaflow cb
9) slowgoat 12.45 @ 109.28 LPE CAI,kooks LT,corsa,3200 TC,3.91
10) Beddow 12.493@112.24 SW headers no cats, Borla CB, ported TB, LPE
11) Housewolf 12.554 @ 107.77 LPE CAI, Nitto DRs, ARH LTs, Vig 3K, corsa,HPE tune
12) TM2FLI 12.60 @ 110.41 MPH
13) Hookmechanic 12.64 @ 111.41 MPH - retired, god bless.
14) steelerguy 12.685 @ 113.46 MPH
15) Sappy96 12.767 @ 109.93 mph Kooks 1 7/8"LT, Corsa, CS CAI, ripshift

[04A4GTO]

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

You must live where the DA is crappy year round and high elevation? 643ft track here and I've seen it on more than one occasion. You know...in reality.. where I go to get track slips.

FWIW on the GTO boards bolt on only GTOs range from 107 ~ 114mph.
Top NA LS2 ET's - Modified - Bolt Ons / Tune Only: (must retain unmodified factory designated cylinder heads (no porting) camshaft and short block)

1) speedshifter 11.95 @ 112 kooks 1 7/8, borla, K&N CAI, ported tb, UDP
2)Old_Goat 12.126 @ 110.61 LPE CAI, X pipe, cutout, ARH 1 7/8 LT, 3200 vig,hpe tune
3) Caveman 12.173 @ 111.59 Kooks catted, X pipe-stock mufflers, LPE cai, Fuddle 3000
4) woodnutz 12.19@114.11 Kooks LT's, Spintech Catback, LPE CAI
5) MacDogg 12.201@111.70 LPE cai, kooks, tune, A4, viglante 3200
6) exturbo 12.304@113.24 SLP long tube headers, Spintech catback, volant cai
7) Bad GTO 12.326 @ 108.75 MPH vig 3200 stall, kooks LT
8) Kruul 12.349 @ 111.69 MPH yank 3200, LPE cai, SW LT no cats, magnaflow cb
9) slowgoat 12.45 @ 109.28 LPE CAI,kooks LT,corsa,3200 TC,3.91
10) Beddow 12.493@112.24 SW headers no cats, Borla CB, ported TB, LPE
11) Housewolf 12.554 @ 107.77 LPE CAI, Nitto DRs, ARH LTs, Vig 3K, corsa,HPE tune
12) TM2FLI 12.60 @ 110.41 MPH
13) Hookmechanic 12.64 @ 111.41 MPH - retired, god bless.
14) steelerguy 12.685 @ 113.46 MPH
15) Sappy96 12.767 @ 109.93 mph Kooks 1 7/8"LT, Corsa, CS CAI, ripshift

It's hard not to give the edge to the modified car vs a stock car. I think the GTO should win if the cobra is stock. Apples and Oranges if you ask me. Because when I think of stock car I think of stock tires as well, so if the Cobra has stock tires and the goat has drag tires... It's all over. So it's pointless

[NA_Cobra]

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

You must live where the DA is crappy year round and high elevation? 643ft track here and I've seen it on more than one occasion. You know...in reality.. where I go to get track slips.

FWIW on the GTO boards bolt on only GTOs range from 107 ~ 114mph.
Top NA LS2 ET's - Modified - Bolt Ons / Tune Only: (must retain unmodified factory designated cylinder heads (no porting) camshaft and short block)

1) speedshifter 11.95 @ 112 kooks 1 7/8, borla, K&N CAI, ported tb, UDP
2)Old_Goat 12.126 @ 110.61 LPE CAI, X pipe, cutout, ARH 1 7/8 LT, 3200 vig,hpe tune
3) Caveman 12.173 @ 111.59 Kooks catted, X pipe-stock mufflers, LPE cai, Fuddle 3000
4) woodnutz 12.19@114.11 Kooks LT's, Spintech Catback, LPE CAI
5) MacDogg 12.201@111.70 LPE cai, kooks, tune, A4, viglante 3200
6) exturbo 12.304@113.24 SLP long tube headers, Spintech catback, volant cai
7) Bad GTO 12.326 @ 108.75 MPH vig 3200 stall, kooks LT
8) Kruul 12.349 @ 111.69 MPH yank 3200, LPE cai, SW LT no cats, magnaflow cb
9) slowgoat 12.45 @ 109.28 LPE CAI,kooks LT,corsa,3200 TC,3.91
10) Beddow 12.493@112.24 SW headers no cats, Borla CB, ported TB, LPE
11) Housewolf 12.554 @ 107.77 LPE CAI, Nitto DRs, ARH LTs, Vig 3K, corsa,HPE tune
12) TM2FLI 12.60 @ 110.41 MPH
13) Hookmechanic 12.64 @ 111.41 MPH - retired, god bless.
14) steelerguy 12.685 @ 113.46 MPH
15) Sappy96 12.767 @ 109.93 mph Kooks 1 7/8"LT, Corsa, CS CAI, ripshift

Take all 15 of those times add them up and they average out to 110-111mph...Which is what I said before of a full bolt on/tune gto..

I've seen a few 418 strokers going mid 11's @ 121mph dynoing 540rwhp

[darkone19]

cobras with 540 rwhp go 130's

[NA_Cobra]

Originally Posted by darkone19

cobras with 540 rwhp go 130's

C5/C6s with 540rwhp go 135+

[BayareaSS]

A full bolt on and tuned GTO should do 112 traps and would be a good run with a stock cobra. I'd give the advantage to the GTO

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by NA_Cobra

Take all 15 of those times add them up and they average out to 110-111mph...Which is what I said before of a full bolt on/tune gto..

I've seen a few 418 strokers going mid 11's @ 121mph dynoing 540rwhp

That's fine..but then take all of the stock / pulled Cobra times and do the same. ;)

I wasn't going for an average..this is a what if scenario and I always bring strong examples on both sides for comparison. If were are just going to toss averages together the numbers will be all over the board and hardly comparable.

[NA_Cobra]

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

That's fine..but then take all of the stock / pulled Cobra times and do the same. ;)

I wasn't going for an average..this is a what if scenario and I always bring strong examples on both sides for comparison. If were are just going to toss averages together the numbers will be all over the board and hardly comparable.

As I said earlier. Fullbolt-ON/tune GTO and a stock Cobra would make for a good run. Drivers race infact. A pullied cobra would absolutely walk away from a GTO.

[GrabberGT]

I say a drivers race with a bolt-on GTO. I trapped 112 my first time at the track in my stock Cobra. I'm also new to manual. So, goes to say, if an "ok" driver can trap that, a good driver can trap 113-114.

Now, give the Cobra DR's, and that would be an edge for the Cobra against a bolt-on LS2.

[joeason1010]

No man the Cobra will kill it dude you should be door to door with a C5 ZO I mean I don't know if you guys are driving your cars hard when you race or not but buddies of mine shift with the rath of god man seriously it's a T56 tranny you can beat on it guys you should destroy this GTSLOW

[twhitey]

a guy in my neighborhood has a 06 gto w a cam, lt, intake and tune When I was stock I would run even or pull a little with my upper only and tune I would put 4 cars on him at anytime when he thought he had a chance, He want to run my ported upper/lower set up but I think it will be a waste of time.

[C6 Vette]

Originally Posted by twhitey

a guy in my neighborhood has a 06 gto w a cam, lt, intake and tune When I was stock I would run even or pull a little with my upper only and tune I would put 4 cars on him at anytime when he thought he had a chance, He want to run my ported upper/lower set up but I think it will be a waste of time.

Your friend needs the driver mod..A cammed/bolton LS2 GTO would squash a stock Cobra..Even a upper/tuned Cobra would have it's hands full....I've personally seen cammed/bolton GTO's pull bottom 12's..

[GrabberGT]

Originally Posted by C6 Vette

Your friend needs the driver mod..A cammed/bolton LS2 GTO would squash a stock Cobra..Even a upper/tuned Cobra would have it's hands full....I've personally seen cammed/bolton GTO's pull bottom 12's..

Hey C6, how ya been?

So, are you saying an Upper Cobra,meaning pullied would have it's hands full? I've seen far to many 11 sec. 118-119+ Pullied Cobra's out there so I have to disagree.

[C6 Vette]

Originally Posted by GrabberGT

Hey C6, how ya been?

So, are you saying an Upper Cobra,meaning pullied would have it's hands full? I've seen far to many 11 sec. 118-119+ Pullied Cobra's out there so I have to disagree.

Been doing good man...Still have my slow stocker C6...lol

I was under the impression that upper/lower pullied Cobra's were solid 11 second cars trapping anywhere from 119-123...He descibed a upper only which should be trapping in the upper teens and running bottom 12's.....Thats right around what a cammed/bolt-on LS2 GTO are running...At least the one I seen at Sac Town last year..

[GrabberGT]

Originally Posted by C6 Vette

Been doing good man...Still have my slow stocker C6...lol

I was under the impression that upper/lower pullied Cobra's were solid 11 second cars trapping anywhere from 119-123...He descibed a upper only which should be trapping in the upper teens and running bottom 12's.....Thats right around what a cammed/bolt-on LS2 GTO are running...At least the one I seen at Sac Town last year..

Gotcha. Glad to hear that man.

I was thinking you said an upper Cobra meaning pullied on the upper pulley. LOL
A Stock Cobra with a decent driver will trap around 112-113. With a great driver, they might be able to squeeze a 114-115 out with ideal conditions.

Drivers race, edge to the LS2. However, that pulley swap will make it hard for even a H/C LS2.

[lemons12]

OMG......

someone posts up asking what car would win out of two given cars........ all of a sudden all these people are talking about what the two cars trap...

who the **** cares what they trap? a bolt on ls2 goat will walk away from a cobra in a REAL race...

now you start talking that bull shit racing for shits and giggles girl roll racing crap... yes, the stock cobra might win by a small margin... but who gives two shits?


in a REAL race, the bolt on gto wins every time, bad river or not.. stock for stock.. drivers race, possibly the edge going to the terminator, but hard to say really..

[BayareaSS]

Originally Posted by twhitey

a guy in my neighborhood has a 06 gto w a cam, lt, intake and tune When I was stock I would run even or pull a little with my upper only and tune I would put 4 cars on him at anytime when he thought he had a chance, He want to run my ported upper/lower set up but I think it will be a waste of time.

I hope this is a joke

Originally Posted by lemons12

OMG......

someone posts up asking what car would win out of two given cars........ all of a sudden all these people are talking about what the two cars trap...

who the **** cares what they trap? a bolt on ls2 goat will walk away from a cobra in a REAL race...

now you start talking that bull shit racing for shits and giggles girl roll racing crap... yes, the stock cobra might win by a small margin... but who gives two shits?


in a REAL race, the bolt on gto wins every time, bad river or not.. stock for stock.. drivers race, possibly the edge going to the terminator, but hard to say really..

Someone with this much hate for trap speeds must own an auto