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Old 04-28-2009, 12:16 PM   #51 (permalink)
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No problem man, it's good to see a pullied Cobra that runs the way it should!



Are you talking about the C6 vs Cobra video that was posted by FASNAKES?

I wouldn't say it's abnormally fast, it's a vert that runs high 11s @ 119-121mph. It's just how a pullied Cobra SHOULD run. There are a lot of poor running examples/

Edit : BTW, I think the full-length headers make a difference too. They add a lot of mid-range power that most people overlook because they make similar peak HP as a pullied Cobra with the stock headers. I have full length headers on my car too, my car runs harder than other Cobras making close to the same power.

I agree, Full length headers makes some good midrange increases, but people fail to realize that the car that makes the most average rwhp throughout the curve wins the race.... Peak is just what it is peak...I rather have 350rwhp from 3500-6500 rpms than 400rwhp from 5500-6500rpms...
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:22 PM   #52 (permalink)
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LOL. I don't have much to say. I can't beat a pullied cobra or ls3 vette right now

I've beaten both and still currently beating both....LTs makes a big difference on both cars... Add Headers/CAI and tune and watch the LS3 run right with the Pullied/LT'd Cobra.
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One thing I dont understand, if SSSSIKH's car was able to pull on a stock LS3 like that with bolt on's and pulley (seemed like a pretty fast hard pull if you ask me). Then why was FASnakes race against a tuned LS3 was really close, even though he had a Whipple? Pretty sure a car like SSSSIKH wouldve given a tune LS3 a match. Also from what I remember, stock LS3's were running low 12's to high 11's at around 118. Pretty weird, this whole number's thing

LTs,CAI and tune makes a big difference on LS3s....
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LTs,CAI and tune makes a big difference on LS3s....
I know what they do to the LS3, ive seen them and we own one. Let me rephrase the question into two, has another Cobra like SSSSIKH's car raced a C6 Z06 before? Will a C6Z beat a LS3 with blah mods?
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I know what they do to the LS3, ive seen them and we own one. Let me rephrase the question into two, has another Cobra like SSSSIKH's car raced a C6 Z06 before? Will a C6Z beat a LS3 with blah mods?
I think, LTs/tune/intake LS3 will run even with a C6Z, but I'd definately like to hear some real world experiences too...
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a really REALLY good driver can take the LS3's into the 11's with drag radials.
11s have been done on stock tires on several occasions.
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11s have been done on stock tires on several occasions.
any run-ins with any stock C6Zs?
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any run-ins with any stock C6Zs?
What C6Z06 can do

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LTs,CAI and tune makes a big difference on LS3s....
+1..It's a whole different animal..There is a guy on here that went from 116-117mph traps to 125mph+ traps with a full exhaust & bolt-ons. That's a huge difference, in a street race I'd imagine bus lengths...
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I know what a C6Z can do. I'm not new to LSX cars. That video is 2-3yrs old man.
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+1..It's a whole different animal..There is a guy on here that went from 116-117mph traps to 125mph+ traps with a full exhaust & bolt-ons. That's a huge difference, in a street race I'd imagine bus lengths...
That guy you are referring to I believe was using Torco and Methanol. his name is JBSblownc5 and his dyno numbers are questionable, because he's claiming LTs/Tune/CAI on his C6 LS3 netted him 450rwhp.
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That guy you are referring to I believe was using Torco and Methanol. his name is JBSblownc5 and his dyno numbers are questionable, because he's claiming LTs/Tune/CAI on his C6 LS3 netted him 450rwhp.
Yes, that's who I'm referring to. I thought he used just a mix of torco and pump, I could be wrong though...His numbers are on the high-side, but I've seen 420-43Xrwhp with full bolt-ons so it's not that far off. I would think an aggressive tune with torco & pump would net him an extra 5-7rwhp, that combined with a dyno that reads a little on the high side.
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Yes, that's who I'm referring to. I thought he used just a mix of torco and pump, I could be wrong though...His numbers are on the high-side, but I've seen 420-43Xrwhp with full bolt-ons so it's not that far off. I would think an aggressive tune with torco & pump would net him an extra 5-7rwhp, that combined with a dyno that reads a little on the high side.
He has meth and i believe a ported intake and tb, gears, and tuned for torco.
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any run-ins with any stock C6Zs?
I ran one when I was stock and lost by about 2 cars as expected. Havent had the chance to run one since I got my mods installed.
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I've beaten both and still currently beating both....LTs makes a big difference on both cars... Add Headers/CAI and tune and watch the LS3 run right with the Pullied/LT'd Cobra.
I was just messing around with ssssikh. I can probably beat both cars by 8-10 cars from a roll
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I was just messing around with ssssikh. I can probably beat both cars by 8-10 cars from a roll
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He has meth and i believe a ported intake and tb, gears, and tuned for torco.
Oh yeah I forgot about the 3:73 gear...

I know he has more mods now, he puts down something like 478rwhp. Back when he was putting down 45Xrwhp & trapping 125mph all he stated was a torco/91 tune, ported TB, intake, full length headers, gears and z06 catback. Maybe he didn't list other mods?

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Oh yeah I forgot about the 3:73 gear...

I know he has more mods now, he puts down something like 478rwhp. Back when he was putting down 45Xrwhp & trapping 125mph all he stated was a torco/91 tune, ported TB, intake, full length headers, gears and z06 catback. Maybe he didn't list other mods?

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One thing I dont understand, if SSSSIKH's car was able to pull on a stock LS3 like that with bolt on's and pulley (seemed like a pretty fast hard pull if you ask me). Then why was FASnakes race against a tuned LS3 was really close, even though he had a Whipple? Pretty sure a car like SSSSIKH wouldve given a tune LS3 a match. Also from what I remember, stock LS3's were running low 12's to high 11's at around 118. Pretty weird, this whole number's thing
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Hahaha. I think you might be an exception to the rule. I think we all know that its safe to say that your car performs very very well for a basic pullied cobra.

Your car is set up very well, outperforming any other pullied cobra I've seen.

I can post a video of an LS2 vette (with my mods, making 380whp, stock ls3 numbers) beating a pullied cobra making about 470whp. I can also post a video of an ls3 car with my mods, dead even with a whippled 04 cobra vert.

Those videos are very legit, just like yours, and I think they represent the normal outcomes that should happen during these kinds of races. I think your car is abnormally fast lol

I can also post a video of an ls3 car with my mods, dead even with a whippled 04 cobra vert.

A single video.....or several video`s

Your car is making 420 rwhp and 425 rwhp. A basically stock pullied whippled Cobra should make at least 550 rwhp and 500 + rwhp. I can see a one of race win, but not a trend.
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I can also post a video of an ls3 car with my mods, dead even with a whippled 04 cobra vert.

A single video.....or several video`s

Your car is making 420 rwhp and 425 rwhp. A basically stock pullied whippled Cobra should make at least 550 rwhp and 500 + rwhp. I can see a one of race win, but not a trend.
Ive only seen one video of that type of race.

here it is.

03 Whipple Cobra vs 08 LS3 Corvette w/ Full Exhaust on Vimeo

130whp more for the cobra, but its a vert. 4000lbs with a driver vs 3400 for the vette. Thats a 600lb weight disadvantage for the cobra. Thats like racing with three passangers in the car!
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Now I'm wondering...where are the guys that were saying a basic pullied cobra would kill a stock LS3 vette?...
Just take a look at the track times. There are a lot of basic pulley cobras running better times than the best recorded LS3 times. I would say the average pullied Cobra should be pretty close with a LS3. I don't think either one will "kill" the other.
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Just take a look at the track times. There are a lot of basic pulley cobras running better times than the best recorded LS3 times. I would say the average pullied Cobra should be pretty close with a LS3. I don't think either one will "kill" the other.

It's pretty sad how 03/04 Cobras are fighting GT500 battles... This discussion should really be about GT500 and LS3s, but I guess since 03/04 Cobra are putting up similar times as GT500s, it just moreover goes to show how much FORD SUCKS!!!

Before everyone gets defensive, I own a Cobra and I like it alot, but Ford Sucks.

My opinion of Ford is not based on FORD itself, it's because I'm upset because they come out with great motors, but "curb weight" owns them..

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