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Old 06-08-2009, 10:26 PM   #26 (permalink)
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ET's have little to do with roll racing...so that's kind of a moot point.

See above....and since when is 13.4 'slow' for a lid flow auto fbod? We dont' know the track, gears or anything. Kind of a blanket/generalized statement IMO.

I agree with the rest though.
I think I had enough info to make an educated guess

Granted the conditions of the track are important, I was taking into account a WS6(3.23 gears) with a Lid and muffler/catback(when he says flows Im not sure what exactly he means, cuz techincally it would a flow as in one muff unless the TA has duals) should run quicker than a 13.4 as that is about average for a stock A4 Fbod. And a car with even those simple mods would atleast pick up a couple tenths I would think. The Lid alone makes a surprising difference.......ask me how I know
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First why all the damn roll races lol
And the races sound about right to me. The 50roll is a sweet spot for the A4 in the Fbody, that should drop him in the top part of 2nd gear which will pull hard, but I would think you would gain a little ground once it moves into 3rd gear, as 3rd gear last a very long time (like to 135 or something) Racing from a roll in the A4 is all about where you start at. If the race would have started at like 40MPH the Fbody would have been owned. The A4 has only 2 real sweet spots, after that the M5 or M6 trannys have the advantage.

and 13.4 might be below average for a really good driver. But for someone who has only had the car for 2 months, that's a damn good ET.
I say 13.4 in an auto with his mods is pretty good, most drivers are not going to go much quicker then a 13.4 with those mods (and on street tires)

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I think I had enough info to make an educated guess

Granted the conditions of the track are important, I was taking into account a WS6(3.23 gears) with a Lid and muffler/catback(when he says flows Im not sure what exactly he means, cuz techincally it would a flow as in one muff unless the TA has duals) should run quicker than a 13.4 as that is about average for a stock A4 Fbod. And a car with even those simple mods would atleast pick up a couple tenths I would think. The Lid alone makes a surprising difference.......ask me how I know
I have no doubt those pick up some power. I know the factory LID is restrictive as hell. But even 10rwhp is only good for ~.10. IDK...doesnt' really matter when we look at the entire picture...it's a couple of tenths we're talkin' here.
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Lids are by far the best bang for the buck mod for these cars....should have been designed that way from the factory for sure....
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The l race is because we were driving to another town on a highway and he wanted to race out of nowhere. Too much traffic to come to a complete stop but its spaced out enough to slow down and run em without coming up on somebody. My tranny is leaking bad enough to shoot out on he exhaust and smoke like i blew up my motor so no more racing til i get it checked out.
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back when i had my auto ls1 ws6, it ran 13.1@105.1 bone stock on street tires, and 13.07@107 with just a Slp Lid, i never really lost to a bone stock mach 1 from a roll or a dig i would always edge them out but not by alot, but OP's car with its mods should def beat a light bolt on auto LS1 and i dont know why everyone has this "its an auto so its slow from a roll" mindset, the LS1's are not slow from a roll like the auto mach 1's( I heard from the stang guys)

full bolt on AUTO ls1 vs basically stock 03 cobra vert from a roll

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I ran a 13.5 @ 105 with a SLP Lid and Fast Toys Ram Air....but it was also 100 degrees that day and my race weight was 3700-3750....

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I also think you having no tune with the mods you have is affecting you.

I know with my auto and the mods I have my car isn't performing to it's full potential. By the track times you said you ran your's isn't either, no offense
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back when i had my auto ls1 ws6, it ran 13.1@105.1 bone stock on street tires, and 13.07@107 with just a Slp Lid, i never really lost to a bone stock mach 1 from a roll or a dig i would always edge them out but not by alot, but OP's car with its mods should def beat a light bolt on auto LS1 and i dont know why everyone has this "its an auto so its slow from a roll" mindset, the LS1's are not slow from a roll like the auto mach 1's( I heard from the stang guys)

full bolt on AUTO ls1 vs basically stock 03 cobra vert from a roll
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Whats some mods are thrown in the auto's are better, but compared to manuals they are still lacking. Before my SS had the stall I hated doing roll races because much slower cars would run right with me usually. Your WS6 having 3.73 gears alsom makes a huge difference. Very nice car BTW. I think I posted a link to it racing a Cobalt SS in another thread.
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He thinks his car is stock otherwise but it rolls out like dammit when he kicks it from a roll. No hesitation.
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back when i had my auto ls1 ws6, it ran 13.1@105.1 bone stock on street tires, and 13.07@107 with just a Slp Lid
I'm sorry, but I have a hard time believing that. Then again, 'bone stock' varies by definition it seems.

If that's true in the truest definition, then I think you hold the record for quickest Auto factory stock Fbod.
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I'm sorry, but I have a hard time believing that. Then again, 'bone stock' varies by definition it seems.

If that's true in the truest definition, then I think you hold the record for quickest Auto factory stock Fbod.
That does sound rather quick..

Why did you lose .6 in the 1/4 from a lid, but gain 2mph. The 10whp or so shouldnt have effected tire spin that badly!
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That does sound rather quick..

Why did you lose .6 in the 1/4 from a lid, but gain 2mph. The 10whp or so shouldnt have effected tire spin that badly!
He gained .03 in 1320.

I'm still EXTREMELY skeptical on it being a true bone stock car. Even at below sea level, I'd be like...hmmm. IDK
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He gained .03 in 1320.

I'm still EXTREMELY skeptical on it being a true bone stock car. Even at below sea level, I'd be like...hmmm. IDK
Oops, read that quick and thought I saw 13.7. My bad lol.
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He gained .03 in 1320.

I'm still EXTREMELY skeptical on it being a true bone stock car. Even at below sea level, I'd be like...hmmm. IDK

I agree it does sound VERY fast for a BONE STOCK auto fbody...
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I'm sorry, but I have a hard time believing that. Then again, 'bone stock' varies by definition it seems.

If that's true in the truest definition, then I think you hold the record for quickest Auto factory stock Fbod.
Nope...there was a thread posted on this site in the timeslips area last year..bone stock auto going 12.95.. I've seen stock autos nailing low 13s may times at Cordova... he is far from the record.

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Back when my friend had his 99 WS6 (6spd, and slp lid) and I was stock down to the paper air filter (03 mach 1 5spd) we would run from a dig and it would be door to door if we both got a good launch. Most of the time it really came down to who got the better launch, and even then we would be within a car length of each-other.
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Nope...there was a thread posted on this site in the timeslips area last year..bone stock auto going 12.95.. I've seen stock autos nailing low 13s may times at Cordova... he is far from the record.

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My 6 speed ls1 car on a 2.1 60ft went 13.1 @ 108mph bone stock (stock rsa tires, paper filter, no weight removed, no free mods, no icing the intake, no cheater mods, etc...).. I really don't see what the deal is here... a mach 1 can pull off a low 13 and no one even questions it.
I wouldn't if it was an M6 or low optioned, but an AUto, full optioned. I have a hard time.

IN todays performance era....anything means stock.

I have questioned some mach's times. Come on man..you hsould know me better than that. Go pm 69mach03 or his GF mach1chick they'll tell you how I've questioned machs. Again, keep in mind we are talking A4's here, not M6's. M6, I'd have no problem believing it.
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Im was saying that to prove his car pulls F'ing hard. I ran a 8.63 on drag radials leaving at 3-4k. That time equates to a 13.5 which is what he ran leaving from idle.
i dunno bro you need to row faster. my buddys got the same mods as you and he runs 12.30's at 111
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back when i had my auto ls1 ws6, it ran 13.1@105.1 bone stock on street tires, and 13.07@107 with just a Slp Lid, i never really lost to a bone stock mach 1 from a roll or a dig i would always edge them out but not by alot, but OP's car with its mods should def beat a light bolt on auto LS1 and i dont know why everyone has this "its an auto so its slow from a roll" mindset, the LS1's are not slow from a roll like the auto mach 1's( I heard from the stang guys)

full bolt on AUTO ls1 vs basically stock 03 cobra vert from a roll


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im just sayin....


Not that impressive really. I would expect that outcome. Horsepower is pretty close with a convertable cobra weighting alot more.
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I wouldn't if it was an M6 or low optioned, but an AUto, full optioned. I have a hard time.

IN todays performance era....anything means stock.

I have questioned some mach's times. Come on man..you hsould know me better than that. Go pm 69mach03 or his GF mach1chick they'll tell you how I've questioned machs. Again, keep in mind we are talking A4's here, not M6's. M6, I'd have no problem believing it.
im not asking you to belive it, no reason to lie its really common around here for auto LS1's to run low 13's bone stock, i LOL everytime you guys keep trying to say its an AUTO, you do realise that the auto LS1 cars are not dogs
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IN todays performance era....anything means stock.
Only if your challenged. Stock means Stock..period.
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i dunno bro you need to row faster. my buddys got the same mods as you and he runs 12.30's at 111
Only thing i can guess is it was my first time on drs, have lowering springs so it hurts hooking up, and from what i hear due to the weather/track prep most ppl were running slower times that night. But that has nothing to do with the street race.
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im not asking you to belive it, no reason to lie its really common around here for auto LS1's to run low 13's bone stock, i LOL everytime you guys keep trying to say its an AUTO, you do realise that the auto LS1 cars are not dogs
Dogs in the essence of shitty gear ratios and shifting....you are correct. Especially compared to Fords A4's. STill more weight, and less power out back. That's my point.
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Only if your challenged. Stock means Stock..period.
You know what I meant. Come on man, you should know me by now.
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You know what I meant. Come on man, you should know me by now.
haha..I do.. just sharing my position on stock. When you see me shooting the word out of my mouth I am talking factory tires and all.

The people that use stock in other fashions are lucky they are not required to wear a helmet full time... (if you know what I mean).
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