2000 gt 80mm mass air, aluminum driveshaft, shifter, 3.73 gears mufflers=8.9 best, 9.1-9.3 usual 1/8th time getting sideways on the 1-2 shift on street tires
2004 Mach1 JLT RAI, aluminum driveshaft, shifter, 4.10 gears, mufflers=9.1 best and usual 1/8th time Getting sideways on 1-2 shift on street tires
Proof is take or leave it, I dont care. Its ridiculous think your so much better than people who have a 2v mustang.
Those are horrible times. My 95 GT with BOLT ONs ran 9.0 in the 1/8th. I've gotten a Mach 1 with a midpipe and catback (still paper filter) to a 8.6 in the 1/8th. You should get that driver mod, seems that would give you the best bang for the buck.
My driver mod is fine. That was on street tires and on shitty tracks. I got a 8.62 on nitto dr's with the mach. Never had dr's on the gt. Our tracks suck ass around here but i was making a point, same tracks/same driver, similar times.
My driver mod is fine. That was on street tires and on shitty tracks. I got a 8.62 on nitto dr's with the mach. Never had dr's on the gt. Our tracks suck ass around here but i was making a point, same tracks/same driver, similar times.
Your GT times sound about right. Your Mach 1 times sound very much below average. Either A) You are downplaying the Mach times to make your GT times seem better or B) Maybe the Mach had more power and you couldn't handle it on the track? My 8.6 (8.58 to be exact) in the Mach was on a shitty track with 2.0 60' so your excuse of a bad prepped track or street tires is weak. What was your 60'?
One thing youll learn about me is i tell u straight up, no bullshitting. Mach 1 slips
Section track on 315 sumitomo street tires and 140lb passenger(Best ever for street tire) 2.043 60' 9.113@79.94
Same track with 275 nitto extreme drags no pass 1.955 60' 8.623@82.58
Huntsville track with same DR No pass 1.916 60' 8.635@81.95
Huntsville track with same DR no pass 1.956 60' 8.658@81.21
One thing youll learn about me is i tell u straight up, no bullshitting. Mach 1 slips
Section track on 315 sumitomo street tires and 140lb passenger(Best ever for street tire) 2.043 60' 9.113@79.94
Same track with 275 nitto extreme drags no pass 1.955 60' 8.623@82.58
Huntsville track with same DR No pass 1.916 60' 8.635@81.95
Huntsville track with same DR no pass 1.956 60' 8.658@81.21
So wait...when you posted this...
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2000 gt 80mm mass air, aluminum driveshaft, shifter, 3.73 gears mufflers=8.9 best, 9.1-9.3 usual 1/8th time getting sideways on the 1-2 shift on street tires 2004 Mach1 JLT RAI, aluminum driveshaft, shifter, 4.10 gears, mufflers=9.1 best and usual 1/8th time Getting sideways on 1-2 shift on street tires
Proof is take or leave it, I dont care. Its ridiculous think your so much better than people who have a 2v mustang.
you forgot to include that you had a 140lb passenger going down the track with you?
Drag radial or not you ran 9.1 with a 2.04 60' and then ran 8.6 with a 1.95 60'. You gained half a second in the 1/8th with little change in your 60'. Thats a huge distance! Why would you compare your best time with your GT in your original post but only compare that with your worst time in the Mach 1 with an added 140lbs? You forgot to throw in "but this was with a passenger and I also ran 8.6 in the Mach on a better run." Just shows to me that you were trying to make the GT look better than it really was. I'm not trying to bash your GT or any GT, I'm just calling it how I see it...
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Best trap was 106.X, with consistant 13.1-.2's@105. I was pretty surprised! Key is to hate the thing when ya drive it, and it returned the favor with 2 broken T3650's
Maybe you just got the miracle 4v cars on my car is weak. But ive been driving 2v and 4v's for 6 years now and i know it isnt my driving.
Alot of it comes down to driver(no offense by any means). Ive seen guys at the track with Mach's that cant get out of the 14's, then they come up to me and ask how Im going almost a full second faster with a stock car lol.
Maybe you just got the miracle 4v cars on my car is weak. But ive been driving 2v and 4v's for 6 years now and i know it isnt my driving.
No he doesn't have a miracle 4v. My g/f's Mach like I said ran 13.2 the first time ever on the track and this was with a paper filter and still had the snorkle in the air box. Only mods were catback and midpipe (how she bought it). This 13.2 came out to a 8.58 in the 1/8th. This was also with a shitty 2.0 60'. So your times do not add up at all unless you do not know how to drive. No 5 speed Mach 1 should run 9.1 in the 1/8th with a 2.0 60'. No excuse...
Maybe you just got the miracle 4v cars on my car is weak. But ive been driving 2v and 4v's for 6 years now and i know it isnt my driving.
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My best prior on street tires was the same time WITHOUT a passenger so......
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Point being, 2v and 4v car, same driver, same track.
What were your shift points?
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I'm not trying to bash your GT or any GT, I'm just calling it how I see it...
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Different cars though. You might be better at driving a 2v. Did you ever think about that?
+1 Driving the 2V is different than the 4V, reason why people put a saying on 4V car's 'Drive it like you stole it!!". If you dont take advantage of the whole RPM's, you are not driving it to its full potential. I would think that the Mach is a bit easier since its power range its mostly low and middle compared to my Cobra which is mostly a high end car. The GT lacks in 3rd gear badly even with gear's, this is where I mostly put the hurting in my Cobra against a NE 2v with bolt on's.
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+1 Driving the 2V is different than the 4V, reason why people put a saying on 4V car's 'Drive it like you stole it!!". If you dont take advantage of the whole RPM's, you are not driving it to its full potential. I would think that the Mach is a bit easier since its power range its mostly low and middle compared to my Cobra which is mostly a high end car. The GT lacks in 3rd gear badly even with gear's, this is where I mostly put the hurting in my Cobra against a NE 2v with bolt on's.
The MAIN difference is the machs have a low TQ powerband, coupled with SRA, and great gearing. It's just as different as the others. I mean, going from a GT to a mach to a cobra, doesn't mean you'll drive both of them to their potential right away. They are different setups.
Between 02 and 05 I ran a ton of 4v n/a cars at the track and I have to go along with the 4v takes a different approach to drive train of thought. The Cobra's were relatively easy to beat if they did not have drag radials. The 2v made better torque off the line and if you had some gears, bolt on's and a good tune you could hold them off. The Mach's seemed a different animal all together, they could match you down low and really out pull you up top. The only real chance I had was that the driver did not take advatage of the car's potential.It was not unusual for Machs to run 13.0 -13.2 near stock in the heat of the summer. If I'm not mistaken the Mach had a pretty good suspension set up for drag racing and higher stall on the auto's than the GT's.
It took the following to beat a Mach one
long tubes,x-pipe, upper plenum. TB, tune, gears, dr's, upper & lower control arms, pulling the front sway bar, pulling the spare and jack, 1/8 tank of fuel and a colonic before you ran.
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The MAIN difference is the machs have a low TQ powerband, coupled with SRA, and great gearing. It's just as different as the others. I mean, going from a GT to a mach to a cobra, doesn't mean you'll drive both of them to their potential right away. They are different setups.
x2... I've watched my friend short shift the hell out of his car and he didn't realize it until I told him. He picked up a lot of time at the track after he admitted he shifted when he thought the engine was at its peak (by ear) instead of watching the tach.
I've watched my friend short shift the hell out of his car
a friend of mine was doing the same w/ his mach (4:30's built rear, o/r x-pipe, jlt) and was launching @ little over 4500k rpms and shifting around 5500 and ran a 13.08 and last week he launch around 6k rpms and shifting higher in the rpms and ran a 12.8 w/ a 1.67 60'
a friend of mine was doing the same w/ his mach (4:30's built rear, o/r x-pipe, jlt) and was launching @ little over 4500k rpms and shifting around 5500 and ran a 13.08 and last week he launch around 6k rpms and shifting higher in the rpms and ran a 12.8 w/ a 1.67 60'
If memory serves my buddy was shifting right around there if not a bit over 5K in every gear. On my junk I try to hit as close to the 6K mark as I can and it seems to work out great, I'm sure every car is different though.
My 8.6 (8.58 to be exact) in the Mach was on a shitty track with 2.0 60' so your excuse of a bad prepped track or street tires is weak. What was your 60'?
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