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The Vette rolled out, but I guess no one watched the video posted by the GT500 showing the same race? YouTube - SlowWhiteShelby VS ThepunisherZ06
The first race the GT500 honked 3 times and hit it and the vette didn't move (or either didn't come up fast enough to get in the camera's view). The next races the Vette took off after TWO honks NOT THREE! The GT500 was waiting to take off on the 3rd honk, so that's why he was sitting still when the vette left. Doesn't mean the GT500 would've won the race, but it definitely wouldn't have been the results that were showed from the Vette's camera. If someone with that much power takes the hit you stand NO CHANCE at running them down. I'd like to see a them race with BOTH cars taking off on the 3rd honk and see what the difference is then!
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They still never took off at the same time, so I can't gauge anything from the vids other than they need a race with both leaving on the 3rd honk! I think the Z would win, but I'd like to see by how much if at all!
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First of all racing a Z06 from a 65+mph roll is just STUPID. 2nd it is silly to race a Z06 from HIGH SPEEDS if you didn't do ANY weightloss mods. You are giving the Z06 the weight Advantage + the Aero Advantage at high speeds.

I love how EVERY Z06 VS GT500 race is from 60+mph rolls or the Z06 driver won't race because they don't want their egos hurt. If a Z06 wants to race me its from a standstill or from a 30 roll. 1/4 miles are raced from a standstill... who gives a crap who can win from 70-200 mph.
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BullSh.!! Vid

The vette jumped on EVERY race! including those with the fox. If you look at the first one the vette posted with the gt500, it would look like he walked away but go look at it from the gt500 vid - you will see that the vette left after the 1st hook. No way - race should stop.
. Don't get me wrong, the vette is fast but you give those same advantages to the other driver we would have had a different winner.

Show me a fair race from 30 or 40 so we can see full power ranges from both cars.

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The new Z06 motor can't take much more power past 600 rwhp... he better be ready for a new engine. Get that on video to. I like to see Z06 owners cry.

C6 Z06 having problems on dyno - Car Videos on StreetFire
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so A 133 mph Gt500 vs a 135 mph Z and you think it was a joke to say the Gt 500 could beat it?? Looks like a damn good race in theory to me if you go from a dig instead of 70mph rolls. Didn't anyone ever tell you rolls are for fat chicks?
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Can we see that race start from a dead stop, or 30mph or so?
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your right, no one has been crying the last page and a half

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your right, no one has been crying the last page and a half
LOL, you're hilarious! I'm not sure who's crying, but that wouldn't be me. I'm quite aware of what a C6Z can do and they're aren't too many cars on the road that can match it for performance. However, you can't call it a race if a guy takes off BEFORE he's supposed to. That's like me red lighting at the track, getting to the finish line before you and claiming I won. If I took off before we were supposed to that means I cheated. The GT500 couldn't react to a car taking off at 2 honks instead of 3. Would the Vette still win if they had a "real race", I think so, but no one can confirm until we see a "true" race. If you can't comprehend that I don't know what else to tell you.
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your right, no one has been crying the last page and a half
Come on, when a bolt-on Cobra hangs or just barely gets edged by a bolt-on C6 Z06 it's nothing but 4 pages of crying from the LSX owners, it goes both ways!!

Ported & Upper only pullied Cobra vs C6 Z06 with a intake/tune/no cats

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In this case I think the GT500 would have lost either way..All I brought up is the fact the Z06 stole the hit in every single race and the GT500 seemed to let off early after he got pulled on. I'd liked to have seen a clean run.
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your right, no one has been crying the last page and a half
I'm not too sure why you're all hung up about it anyways. Wasn't it your friends car? Nobody is taking anything away from your friends Corvette C6 Z06. Dude they have an Aluminum body structure, and Carbon-fiber composite front fenders, front wheelhouses and floors. And for 70k I sure would hope it can beat a mid 40k Mustang. prices Our cars are a 6 cylinder shell with a large engine in them. NOT a purpose built race car like the 800lb lighter, almost 6'' lower Corvette Z06. Now lets talk nitrous. Your friends 150 shot probably added what 80-110 rwhp, but how much torque did it add??????? I would bet LOTS. And for said lighter/lower car to be faster when he jumps the gun at 60mph is only natural. Ford GT=Z06
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BTW your car is also sick I have seen a few vids of it! Didn't you run a nitrous at one time also?
yeah for 2 yrs. it made a decent amount of power. nothin to crazy though, but it sure did beat a 800-900 cobra, but its not about my car in this thread. take a wild guess who's cobra it was? actually i'll give you a hint. he owns a chevy now and its SILVER

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Come on, when a bolt-on Cobra hangs or just barely gets edged by a bolt-on C6 Z06 it's nothing but 4 pages of crying from the LSX owners, it goes both ways!!

Ported & Upper only pullied Cobra vs C6 Z06 with a intake/tune/no cats

C6Z06 vs. Pullied 03 Cobra

In this case I think the GT500 would have lost either way..All I brought up is the fact the Z06 stole the hit in every single race and the GT500 seemed to let off early after he got pulled on. I'd liked to have seen a clean run.
hey i'm all for anything can happen on the street, but in this circumstance, i'm a witness to the races that happened in this thread, and im absolutely positive that THIS Shelby needs more power to hang or even pull THIS Z06.

i'm a lsx owner and you don't see me crying in the links you provided because at the end of the day i know how MY car runs
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I'm not too sure why you're all hung up about it anyways. Wasn't it your friends car? Nobody is taking anything away from your friends Corvette C6 Z06. Dude they have an Aluminum body structure, and Carbon-fiber composite front fenders, front wheelhouses and floors. And for 70k I sure would hope it can beat a mid 40k Mustang. prices Our cars are a 6 cylinder shell with a large engine in them. NOT a purpose built race car like the 800lb lighter, almost 6'' lower Corvette Z06. Now lets talk nitrous. Your friends 150 shot probably added what 80-110 rwhp, but how much torque did it add??????? I would bet LOTS. And for said lighter/lower car to be faster when he jumps the gun at 60mph is only natural. Ford GT=Z06
i'm not all hung up, i'm just amazed on how people are in denial about the race. in this circumstance my buddy bought his car for 44-45k used he was thinking about a Shelby but decided the vette was a better bang for the buck.

now lets not talk about a Ford GT that costs more than twice the price of a Z06 but still manages to pull the GT.

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what ppl have a hard time understanding is that when you make THAT much power, whether it be a 700whp cobra or a shot Z, triple digit speeds are reached incredibly fast, this is where the Z shines and all its advantages start to show, aeros, gearing, and weight... the combination of those three are extremely hard to match. i can see why they raced from that speed, hell ive seen STOCK Zs have trouble hooking at slower speeds

i heard the GT500 get on it, and yeah it was slighty late, but was more than enough to tell the tale...
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i'm not all hung up, i'm just amazed on how people are in denial about the race. in this circumstance my buddy bought his car for 44-45k used he was thinking about a Shelby but decided the vette was a better bang for the buck.

now lets not talk about a Ford GT that costs more than twice the price of a Z06 but still manages to pull the GT.

take a look C6 Z06 vs GT 40.....barely modded almost stock z06 - Car Videos on StreetFire
Look I can do that to... this time where it really matters! ;)
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Look I can do that to... this time where it really matters! ;)
YouTube - C6 Z06 vs. Ford GT
then your in the wrong section and posting in the wrong thread if 1/4 times really matter ;) plus stock Z06's have done 10's and low 11's.

keep posting stang, your good entertainment
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well i think both posts about the FGT are kinda lame...one was a lightly modded Zo6 against a stock FGT and god knows what the other one is on the drag strip... who cares about drag b/c thats all driver, one of the driver could have been horrible and one a pro racer? the next race a stock LS3 could have beaten the FGT, who cares
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then your in the wrong section and posting in the wrong thread if 1/4 times really matter ;) plus stock Z06's have done 10's and low 11's.

keep posting stang, your good entertainment

I know they have! 10.80's right? I love C6 Z's so I hope you dont have me cunfused with one of the haters but i'm not a nutswinger either.
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well i think both posts about the FGT are kinda lame...one was a lightly modded Zo6 against a stock FGT and god knows what the other one is on the drag strip... who cares about drag b/c thats all driver, one of the driver could have been horrible and one a pro racer? the next race a stock LS3 could have beaten the FGT, who cares
That was the point anyone can post a video of a car beating another car.
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hey i'm all for anything can happen on the street, but in this circumstance, i'm a witness to the races that happened in this thread, and im absolutely positive that THIS Shelby needs more power to hang or even pull THIS Z06.

i'm a lsx owner and you don't see me crying in the links you provided because at the end of the day i know how MY car runs
Yup as there were forum members that were a witness to those cars and how they run. They're not crying either because they know how their cars run. Anyone could say that at the end of the day.

Anyways, I agree, anything can happen on the street.
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Z is one bad ass car no doubt.

Although to be fair, these highway rolls are basically further giving the advantage to the already faster car. I can't think of a more advantageous place for you to start a race against that car.

Basically, you give up the only advantage you have, solid axle/super bottom end torque (I doubt he would spray 1st on the street). The fact is though, it takes a supreme amount of power in any modern mustang to be able to outpull a C6Z when we start talking highway speeds. The Zs gearing is matched perfectly with it's powerband.


I think the Shelby is pretty nice too, but I would have someone take a look at the dyno hes on... With 603rwhp SAE I went 131mph out the backdoor in my 03 cobra vert (probably within 100-200lbs of your Shelby Coupe). You have 734RWHP and are only going 130? Either the dynojet is unloaded, you were heatsoaked at the track, or you dynoed on a loaded dyno someone where the correction factor is being messed with.

I don't mean that as an insult, because I'm sure your car is more then capable of making that much power and more, but I would definitely check to see if anything has changed with your car since your dyno run to now, as your track numbers don't match your power output.


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Why? The GT500 trumps the 03/04 in just about every performance category, and IMHO the GT500 looks far meaner than the Terminator
Because a 700hp terminator would fare much better against a 590hp Z than that.
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Tito (Slow Vette) I know you love Frank and all but it seems like if your going to be in here talking shit about my car, I'll have to say isn't this the only video that matters!

YouTube - 2008 2.9L Whipple GT500 VS C6 Z06 Ron Fellows Edition
Good run man.

Now I await the C6Z owners to cry about this, and say he couldn't drive, or post the best time slips of a stock C6Z.

Gotta love Vette owners sometimes.

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Looks like Z06 ran out of nitrous in that race.
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Looks like Z06 ran out of nitrous in that race.
Yeah, and at least this one didn't jump on the 1st and 2nd honks.
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Tito (Slow Vette) I know you love Frank and all but it seems like if your going to be in here talking shit about my car, I'll have to say isn't this the only video that matters!

YouTube - 2008 2.9L Whipple GT500 VS C6 Z06 Ron Fellows Edition
kind of sad, if you could only pull me 2 cars with 300rwhp more and you really thought you had a chance against a spraying Z06

fact is Chris, for the amount of power your car has, it should be faster. you can have 850hp and still lose to a Z06 on nitrous.

Edit: how the **** am i talking shit? unless you really think you had a chance against the Z06 on nitrous, in which case you need to get your head out your ass, and come back to reality, and realize a Z06 on nitrous is faster than your car. which is exactly what happened in the video in this thread.

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