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Old 10-25-2009, 01:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Drag times with my stock terminator and killed a new GXP

Went to the strip for the first time with the new ride. Bone stock 04 Terminator coupe. Best run i could muster with traction issues was a 12.87 @111.7 mph with a 2.1 short time. Temp was about 40-45 degrees all day. Thought i would be doin well if i broke 12s first time out with the car. Quick question though, does my mph seem low? Thought it might be off by 2 or 3 mph? There was a slight head wind. Thoughts?

Then on the ride home i beat up on my buddies brand new Pontiac Gxp from a 40 roll to about 120. Had 2-3 cars and gaining. The guy in the Gxp holds the nations best drag time for a stock Gxp m6.

Anyways lemme know your thoughts about my stock time.
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Old 10-25-2009, 03:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i have seen mph be a few higher but you had a headwind so that could be the problem.

and nice time especially for a 2.1 sixty foot. cut a 1.8 and it would be down several more tenths
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Went to the strip for the first time with the new ride. Bone stock 04 Terminator coupe. Best run i could muster with traction issues was a 12.87 @111.7 mph with a 2.1 short time. Temp was about 40-45 degrees all day. Thought i would be doin well if i broke 12s first time out with the car. Quick question though, does my mph seem low? Thought it might be off by 2 or 3 mph? There was a slight head wind. Thoughts?

Then on the ride home i beat up on my buddies brand new Pontiac Gxp from a 40 roll to about 120. Had 2-3 cars and gaining. The guy in the Gxp holds the nations best drag time for a stock Gxp m6.

Anyways lemme know your thoughts about my stock time.
What is the "nations best drag time for a stock M6 GXP" ?
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Old 10-25-2009, 05:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the head wind and the traction issues can cause some problems.. fix those things and you could run mid to low 12s
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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what is the "nations best drag time for a stock m6 gxp" ?
13.12 @ 109
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13.12 @ 109
Would it happen to be Joe Morgan?

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Old 10-25-2009, 08:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Would it happen to be Joe Morgan?

Hells ya. I knew that car looked familiar.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Head wind does pose a problem because I had the same problem with getting good times with my Cobra but I think the cold air also helped me to.
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What kind of times do the GXP run usually?
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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What kind of times do the GXP run usually?

Not sure, but he made 13.20s look easy.
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What kind of times do the GXP run usually?
Depends, a few A6's have hit 12.8-12.9 @ 109-110 stock, they're easier to launch at the track than the M6. Most M6 cars go 13.2-13.5 stock because they can't launch the damn thing.
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Good times. Still think with a 111 trap you should walk your 3V friend, ROFL.

Get the 60 ft down (hard to do on street tires) and you will see a 12.5-12.6 if you power-shift the car.

I ran a 12.9 @ 112, then a 12.99 @ 113 Bone Stock still in the learning stages of the car. Your trap is right about on. Best trap ever was 114-115 which was in perfect conditions with perfect driving.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Pretty good times. When my car was bone stock the best I mustered was a 12.93 at 110mph.
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Depends, a few A6's have hit 12.8-12.9 @ 109-110 stock, they're easier to launch at the track than the M6. Most M6 cars go 13.2-13.5 stock because they can't launch the damn thing.

I'm one of those few A6's....12.977 @ 110.06 with a crappy 2.188 60 ft. (bone stock).
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I'm one of those few A6's....12.977 @ 110.06 with a crappy 2.188 60 ft. (bone stock).
110 from the a6!!! What was the DA? Wow that's moving.
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Nice job. That head wind wasn't helping you at all but the cold weather definitely was. Do you know what the DA was?
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Yep, that was me. Dwight is a good guy, and his Cobra is quick, but he didn't include all the details. He failed to mention that I was driving with a buddy of mine in my car (about 225), along with myself (about 255), and track stuff in the trunk, so my LS3 was trying to move 4500 lbs! Dwight was by himself, and he's a leaner guy. Plus, I was running 91 octane fuel because that's the highest octane I could get before I ran out of gas. I'm not saying that I would have taken him, but the run would have been a bit closer if I was by myself, and had 93 octane. I don't view this as embarrassing anyway. He has nearly as much HP, in a lighter platform. You may want to pass that info along to the Mustang crowd. Dwight seems like an honest guy, so I doubt he'll deny it.
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I just re-read his post and discovered one inaccuracy. We most certainly never had a headwind all day. Cordova runs west to east, and the wind was always out of the west or west-north-west, sometimes up to 12 mph or so. That is a definite tailwind, or offset tailwind. Just wanted to state for the record!
Explain?
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yes please do explain
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When we teched in Tye was talking about the wind conditions with Matt wondering if they would be an issue. I did notice it had some gusts i would say up to around 10-15 mph. When i noticed a consistent 111mph in my runs i asked tye if my mph was off by alot. He stated a few factors that could be the cause wind being one. Guess i never really noticed the wind direction from where we were pitting.

Yes, he did have a passenger and i remember him fueling up on 91. Truth.

On a factory tune the car should run well on 91?? I remember some talk about that too through out the night. True or false?

"Dwight was by himself, and he's a leaner guy" Thanks for the compliment!!

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Also, Joe knows what the DA was im sure.

Dont get me wrong, that 4 door impressed the hell out of me. LS3 cars are fast no matter what. I love all the Holden platforms.
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[quote=vipermuscle;8956481]When we teched in Tye was talking about the wind conditions with Matt wondering if they would be an issue. I did notice it had some gusts i would say up to around 10-15 mph. When i noticed a consistent 111mph in my runs i asked tye if my mph was off by alot. He stated a few factors that could be the cause wind being one. Guess i never really noticed the wind direction from where we were pitting.

Yes, he did have a passenger and i remember him fueling up on 91. Truth.
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ahhh ok
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Ask Joe if he filled up on 91 or was it 89? I remember Tye and Matt making fun of the gas station for having 89 octane! Is that what he ment??
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I have fought with the headwind at Cordova multiple times. It definately hurts your traps...


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Ask Joe if he filled up on 91 or was it 89? I remember Tye and Matt making fun of the gas station for having 89 octane! Is that what he ment??
If you got gas anywhere near the track you are limitd and likely got ethonal crap or 89... one of the stations in Cordova (city) has 91 octane though so if you look for it you can find it.


What day did you run? A quick lookup on Wunderground will tell you how the winds were on that day.
On Saturday (24th) winds were W/NW at 3 ~ 15mph with gust of 18~21mph
http://www.wunderground.com/history/...q_statename=NA

So it should have been a tailwind.

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