03snke, pm me when your ready. I can't wait. I have a feeling your ganna leave me wanting a new turbo.
We can start another thread for the next race.LOL
Btw I saw your thread about mr french. I remember a black z around a year ago that took off on me like that. He had a 200 shot. Not saying it was him. but
next time Stryker just say 450awhp with mods, that would prevent all this b.s, well your boy that night was upfront and said 450hp i just new it wasn't stock or close to by the way it pulled, but i didn't loose sleep over that
it is what it is, you win some and lose some, i didn't think this was going to turn 12 pages, but oh well, let the bench racing continue
03snke, pm me when your ready. I can't wait. I have a feeling your ganna leave me wanting a new turbo.
We can start another thread for the next race.LOL
Btw I saw your thread about mr french. I remember a black z around a year ago that took off on me like that. He had a 200 shot. Not saying it was him. but
hmm, did you get to see the driver? Frenchy's black c6z is impressive to say the least for the mods it has, he even offered me to ck his car inside and out (i guess so i could see he wasn't spraying) but i really don't need to go through all that, he's a real, real good race with a 640rwhp big turbo supra, but what do i know, he states its only making 508, i guess its one of the many freaks that we have in s.florida...
i'm going to ask him for a rerun once my clutch is ready, maybe i can hold the pull a little longer...
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mpe331lx- we get the fact that you are trying to stick up for your boy and that you are a EVO nutswinger. But as has been pointed out to you, the whole reason he got called out for BS is because HE was disingenuous about what he was running- pure and simple. If you don't understand that you're a bigger nutswinger than we thought. Yeah- most of us are Mustang guys but that doesn't mean we are the idiots you make us out to be- see most of us understand what it takes the cars driven by our rivals to perform well. So when we see the original post by your boy we are skeptical. If that makes YOU butthurt that's your problem- not ours. Instead of US having to do research to find out if your boy is full of shit or not perhaps he should just be straight up.....I know- probably a foreign concept to you. Try it sometime though- it works.
1st off, he is not my boy. I don't know him, never met, or talked to him anywhere else other then this thread.
What I do know about are the cars coming out of the AWDmotorsports shop and the outstanding performance thy have.
I also know that the car was/is capable of running what it does with the major mods the OP listed (people need to STFU about the supporting mods, it's ****ing ridiculous)
My whole gripe is the anal "but it had more mods, it had a lot of boost, it ....WAH....beat one of our god forsaken terminators...." cry baby ass shit
I will stick up for what I know is right. I'll do the same on a GM based board when all the die hard ls1 guys claim that there is no way in hell a full bolt on and geared mach one can even hang with one of their ls1's. (Most of the ls1 community believes that the only 4.6 that can even run with them is the 03/04 cobra)
I do the same when the local import douchebags claim that a bolt on LT1 is good for running mid 14s at best......(I have to stick up for the lowly LT1's everywhere) or an 01 gt needs spray to hit a 13.
hmm, did you get to see the driver? Frenchy's black c6z is impressive to say the least for the mods it has, he even offered me to ck his car inside and out (i guess so i could see he wasn't spraying) but i really don't need to go through all that, he's a real, real good race with a 640rwhp big turbo supra, but what do i know, he states its only making 508, i guess its one of the many freaks that we have in s.florida...
i'm going to ask him for a rerun once my clutch is ready, maybe i can hold the pull a little longer...
What you didn't know that Corvette Z06's comes stock with a 200shot of juice straight from the Miami showroom floors
On a serious note, stryker9 if your down for a friendly run once my clutch is fully broken in, I'm down...Sounds like your car moves so I wanna give a try!
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I don't really understand how you rationalize with yourself that you are right on this one. Seriously? It's like saying a pullied cobra, or a cam only LS1. Those other parts are a given. The weight reduction is really not that big of a factor....
Or maybe he just wanted to laugh at you with the rest of us while you try to back pedal you're way out of the fact that you don't know WTF you are talking about.... I know I LOL'd at you a few times....
Sorry but I don't agree with you man. Despite him being a little too critical and it being a little hard to read what he is typing, he is essentially right.
I am not bashing the OP at all and I don't believe he was purposely being deceptive but the way he posted his mods was indeed, deceptive. I really don't get how you and others believe it is perfectly acceptable to make a list of mods and expect others to read between the lines and just know what supporting mods are required for each car.
Just so you know, I find it equally retarded to claim to be a "Cam only LSX" or "Pullied Cobra" because that is not the only thing helping your performance. The Cam Only is especially deceptive because the wording leads one to believe that is the only mod they have period.
Stryker9, it would have saved you sooooo much hassle if you had just posted the same list that you posted on the evo site. You should have known this would happen, especially considering the same thing appeared to have happened when you posted your times over there originally. It is always better to be upfront with everything that increases performance instead of assuming people just know what you mean when you claim something.
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Just so you know, I find it equally retarded to claim to be a "Cam only LSX" or "Pullied Cobra" because that is not the only thing helping your performance. The Cam Only is especially deceptive because the wording leads one to believe that is the only mod they have period.
All of that is just common terminology between the ones with those cars. THEY know what supporting mods are needed to fall into that category and it is useless to list them when it should be common knowledge for any enthusiast that deals with those cars.
I dont doubt anything other than picking up 200-240rwhp with 4-6 more psi and some exhaust mods. The op said it spiked 33psi but was more like 22 after the spike. Someone said 16-18 psi stock.
So that being said the op is claiming a 100% gain in rwhp over stock with intake, exhaust, e85 and 4 more psi. Ive pointed this out several times and its never been addressed. I dont doubt the car makes the power. I dont doubt he ran what he ran. I dont doubt he out ran a Terminator.
I doubt the gains made from said mods. Others with the same and more mods make 80-100 rwhp less. I think I asked a reasonable question when I asked how.
You boys can believe what ever suits ya.
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All of that is just common terminology between the ones with those cars. THEY know what supporting mods are needed to fall into that category and it is useless to list them when it should be common knowledge for any enthusiast that deals with those cars.
Common knowledge, how ignorance your statement sounds. Only a hustler would do that kind of thing......... It's like telling people "Yeah all I've got in my car is 4.6 stock block and a S/C but my car goes 8's....." so have it your way.
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I dont doubt anything other than picking up 200-240rwhp with 4-6 more psi and some exhaust mods. The op said it spiked 33psi but was more like 22 after the spike. Someone said 16-18 psi stock.
So that being said the op is claiming a 100% gain in rwhp over stock with intake, exhaust, e85 and 4 more psi. Ive pointed this out several times and its never been addressed. I dont doubt the car makes the power. I dont doubt he ran what he ran. I dont doubt he out ran a Terminator.
I doubt the gains made from said mods. Others with the same and more mods make 80-100 rwhp less. I think I asked a reasonable question when I asked how.
You boys can believe what ever suits ya.
Well said! I don't have to explain anything anymore. BTW, I even told OP good kill because I believed him. I also believed his numbers as well when I saw his mods list. It a little annoying when he was being deceptive about his mods in the beginning. That's why everyone thought he was racing a non-S/C Cobra.
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Sorry but I don't agree with you man. Despite him being a little too critical and it being a little hard to read what he is typing, he is essentially right.
I am not bashing the OP at all and I don't believe he was purposely being deceptive but the way he posted his mods was indeed, deceptive. I really don't get how you and others believe it is perfectly acceptable to make a list of mods and expect others to read between the lines and just know what supporting mods are required for each car.
Just so you know, I find it equally retarded to claim to be a "Cam only LSX" or "Pullied Cobra" because that is not the only thing helping your performance. The Cam Only is especially deceptive because the wording leads one to believe that is the only mod they have period.
Stryker9, it would have saved you sooooo much hassle if you had just posted the same list that you posted on the evo site. You should have known this would happen, especially considering the same thing appeared to have happened when you posted your times over there originally. It is always better to be upfront with everything that increases performance instead of assuming people just know what you mean when you claim something.
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I dont doubt anything other than picking up 200-240rwhp with 4-6 more psi and some exhaust mods. The op said it spiked 33psi but was more like 22 after the spike. Someone said 16-18 psi stock.
So that being said the op is claiming a 100% gain in rwhp over stock with intake, exhaust, e85 and 4 more psi. Ive pointed this out several times and its never been addressed. I dont doubt the car makes the power. I dont doubt he ran what he ran. I dont doubt he out ran a Terminator.
I doubt the gains made from said mods. Others with the same and more mods make 80-100 rwhp less. I think I asked a reasonable question when I asked how.
You boys can believe what ever suits ya.
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Common knowledge, how ignorance your statement sounds. Only a hustler would do that kind of thing......... It's like telling people "Yeah all I've got in my car is 4.6 stock block and a S/C but my car goes 8's....." so have it your way.
Well said! I don't have to explain anything anymore. BTW, I even told OP good kill because I believed him. I also believed his numbers as well when I saw his mods list. It a little annoying when he was being deceptive about his mods in the beginning. That's why everyone thought he was racing a non-S/C Cobra.
That's my point, in the very 1st post all he had to say was 450awhp 33psi then it would solve it all, esp when ur claiming to beat a 500-600rwhp mustang That's all ive been trying to say. because it seems misleading and makes it look like a lie esp when ur claiming to gain 200+awhp
not that hard to add @ the end of his mod list 450awhp
Common knowledge, how ignorance your statement sounds. Only a hustler would do that kind of thing......... It's like telling people "Yeah all I've got in my car is 4.6 stock block and a S/C but my car goes 8's....." so have it your way.
Dude, get off my ****ing dick.
It has nothing to do with hustling. it is common terminology. If taliking about a car with a common set up, listing the REDUNDANT PARTS / MODS is not needed. I guess if you are posting on a forum of people IGNORANT to your particular car and set up, maybe, just maybe you had better poste EVERY single nut and bolt that has been changed, every item that has been tweaked, and the last shit that you took so they have an accurate race weight.
Sorry O.P, you really ****ed up for not listing all of this shizz.
All the B.S aside:
A cam only ls1 pertains to a car that still has a stock bottom end and stock heads, the cam is the only ENGINE ITEM thats been changed, hence the name cam only. It does not mean that the cam is the only mod.
It is used when describing the set up. People in the ls1 comunity KNOW that a cam only ls1 has more mods than that.
Just like an "upper pulley only" cobra has more mods then just an upper pulley.
It has nothing to do with hustling. it is common terminology. If taliking about a car with a common set up, listing the REDUNDANT PARTS / MODS is not needed. I guess if you are posting on a forum of people IGNORANT to your particular car and set up, maybe, just maybe you had better poste EVERY single nut and bolt that has been changed, every item that has been tweaked, and the last shit that you took so they have an accurate race weight.
Sorry O.P, you really ****ed up for not listing all of this shizz.
All the B.S aside:
A cam only ls1 pertains to a car that still has a stock bottom end and stock heads, the cam is the only ENGINE ITEM thats been changed, hence the name cam only. It does not mean that the cam is the only mod.
It is used when describing the set up. People in the ls1 comunity KNOW that a cam only ls1 has more mods than that.
Just like an "upper pulley only" cobra has more mods then just an upper pulley.
But most cobra and camaro guys will say lid,catback,cam and they will say there horsepower and 1/4 times in a kill, or most guys with turbo guys will say boost level, my point all along which he failed to post all along we had to get it out of him!!!HOW HARD IS IT TO PUT 450AWHP EVO BEATS COBRA that would make more sense, then him listing his stock parts, he put stock block etc. just list ur mods not ur stock crap, u and only few seem to not realize this simple fact, If you shut ur mouth and did research of his setup post on evo forums he was more then detailed of boost levels, full mod list, and his 1/4 times, he neglected to be specfic on a mustang forum, which is funny because that proves urs and others case very wrong,because if anything on a MUSTANG FORUM he should be more specific being some guys dont kno anything about evo's. and his own evo forum guys should kno, since to people like u it was "SO OBVIOUS" and common. cough
can we just end this already lol
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This thread needs to be closed already it clear the op has the fastest evo ever driven.
It needs to be closed due to the simple lack of intelligence by some of these guys. Just get over the fact that it was 4-5 of you that simply overlooked the fact that these cars have great potential with very few mods. It's ok not to know it all. lol. Everyone else on these 10 pages gets it except for you select few. If you were curious, you could have just asked him but insted you jump to a conclusion without asking a simple question and its his fault? Give me a F*cking break.
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But most cobra and camaro guys will say lid,catback,cam and they will say there horsepower and 1/4 times in a kill, or most guys with turbo guys will say boost level, my point all along which he failed to post all along we had to get it out of him!!!HOW HARD IS IT TO PUT 450AWHP EVO BEATS COBRA that would make more sense, then him listing his stock parts, he put stock block etc. just list ur mods not ur stock crap, u and only few seem to not realize this simple fact, If you shut ur mouth and did research of his setup post on evo forums he was more then detailed of boost levels, full mod list, and his 1/4 times, he neglected to be specfic on a mustang forum, which is funny because that proves urs and others case very wrong,because if anything on a MUSTANG FORUM he should be more specific being some guys dont kno anything about evo's. and his own evo forum guys should kno, since to people like u it was "SO OBVIOUS" and common. cough
can we just end this already lol
End this, I thought you were done? You keep saying the same shit over and over, you sound like a broken record.
Did you not see where I said this in the the post of mine you just quoted:
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I guess if you are posting on a forum of people IGNORANT to your particular car and set up, maybe, just maybe you had better Post EVERY single nut and bolt that has been changed, every item that has been tweaked, and the last shit that you took so they have an accurate race weight.
Sorry O.P, you really ****ed up for not listing all of this shizz.
It all goes back to the ignorant people thing.
He posted about his car on a forum full of ignorance (ignorant to his car and combo).
So in turn, I AGREED WITH WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY HERE, BUT YET YOUR HARD HEADDED DUMB ****ING ASS KEEPS TRYING TO GET THE SAME POINT ACROSS.
This has gotten a little off topic (sort of), My whole argument in that quote was about the terminology "cam only" and "upper pulley only" and was only indirectly related to the EVOs post or omissions of boost and HP.
Now if you'd like to quote this again are you going to repeat your self again or come up with something new?
He posted about his car on a forum full of ignorance (ignorant to his car and combo).
there is more ignorance in this single thread than any honda, evo, srt-4 sites ive ever been a member of. these are the same guys that bash the "ricers" when theyre essentially acting the same way. it sucks that some of those ignorant guys have badass cars too.
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I'm uber late to this thread. Can I still post this video? K, good. It really has nothing to do with the upcoming race, just wanted to post it. This is a pretty good of example of how modded Cobra's stack up against modded Evo's.
At 2:17 in: Evo with 35r & supporting mods (stock motor) VS. ported cobra. The Cobra has run a best of 11.4...not sure what the Evo has ran. Evo misses the hit on the first run but pulls the Cobra on the second one.
At 5:00 in: 2.4L stroker & 63mm Evo VS. ported/sprayed Cobra. Evo wins.
Evo's are pretty cheap to make fast. I had a buddy that ran a 12.5 in his with just a tune and exhaust...
...But I'd still buy a Cobra.
Just sayin.
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there is more ignorance in this single thread than any honda, evo, srt-4 sites ive ever been a member of. these are the same guys that bash the "ricers" when theyre essentially acting the same way. it sucks that some of those ignorant guys have badass cars too.
I completely agree with EVERYTHING you just posted.
I dont doubt anything other than picking up 200-240rwhp with 4-6 more psi and some exhaust mods. The op said it spiked 33psi but was more like 22 after the spike. Someone said 16-18 psi stock.
So that being said the op is claiming a 100% gain in rwhp over stock with intake, exhaust, e85 and 4 more psi. Ive pointed this out several times and its never been addressed. I dont doubt the car makes the power. I dont doubt he ran what he ran. I dont doubt he out ran a Terminator.
I doubt the gains made from said mods. Others with the same and more mods make 80-100 rwhp less. I think I asked a reasonable question when I asked how.
You boys can believe what ever suits ya.
My old Evo 8 with Full exhaust, intake pipe + filter, tune, ebc, and IC picked up nearly 100whp over stock on 3 extra psi. Stock boost is essentially 20 lbs - I was at 23 psi
You guys that are calling people ignorant have offered nothing but blind support. I asked a goddamn good question and it has never been answered. In fact I feel its been ignored on purpose.
You kids want to believe it so it must be true. The guy either doesnt know or is lying his goddamn ass off about that car. I dont give a **** what car it is. It aint picking up a 100% goddamn gain in AWHP from exhaust, intake, e85 and 4-6 more psi of boost! 80-100AWHP less than any evo I can find.
If you kids want to believe that then go right ahead but the joke is on you.
I await your stupid ****ing responces that completely ignores anything of common sense.
Take a look at the trap speeds of some of the other cars on the list. A few cars have built motors but remember that the stock turbo is the limiting factor not the engine. Most of the cars are running stock blocks. Go ahead and click the link and look at the list from 2008. I know its hard to believe. I didn't know what they were capable of till I purchased one.
Take a look at the trap speeds of some of the other cars on the list. A few cars have built motors but remember that the stock turbo is the limiting factor not the engine. Most of the cars are running stock blocks. Go ahead and click the link and look at the list from 2008. I know its hard to believe. I didn't know what they were capable of till I purchased one.
that would prevent all this b.s, well your boy that night was upfront and said 450hp i just new it wasn't stock or close to by the way it pulled, but i didn't loose sleep over that 
he even offered me to ck his car inside and out (i guess so i could see he wasn't spraying) but i really don't need to go through all that, he's a real, real good race with a 640rwhp big turbo supra, but what do i know, he states its only making 508, i guess its one of the many freaks that we have in s.florida...
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