I am not biased toward any manufacturer or car. I am a car enthusiast. It was between a terminator or a evo when I made this purchase. The deciding factor was cost of insurance. Evo was about 100 less a month. I always held 03-04 cobras in high regard, thus my interest in them.
wow, 9.9 is freaking fast for a stock blower. This video was taken a little less than a year ago. My best so far has been 11.15 but I have since dropped weight and added a few other mods. As soon as some cooler weather comes in I will be going out on slicks and will be happy to post it.
It needs to be closed due to the simple lack of intelligence by some of these guys. Just get over the fact that it was 4-5 of you that simply overlooked the fact that these cars have great potential with very few mods. It's ok not to know it all. lol. Everyone else on these 10 pages gets it except for you select few. If you were curious, you could have just asked him but insted you jump to a conclusion without asking a simple question and its his fault? Give me a F*cking break.
I don't know man, while some have been pretty vocal against the OP, it seems the people defending the way the mod list was presented are being ignorant (and there are fewer of you guys than those questioning this kill story btw). Expecting anyone who isn't specifically into evo's to know what each of those mods requires as far as supporting mods go is pretty lame if you ask me.
I guess I am just against listing mods in a fashion that leads one to believe that is the only performance enhancing modification they have. Cam only, upper pulley only, all stupid in my opinion. Those terms were probably originally created to purposely be deceptive. Who would normally think that saying cam only means the only ENGINE Mod, unless they were already familar with the term? The purpose is to trick a person who owns a different make of car into thinking the car is less modified than it really is, plain and simple.
Let's be honest, even though those modifications may need certain supporting mods, not everyone does them. How are we to know if he took the time to properly setup his car unless he specifically states it?
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You guys that are calling people ignorant have offered nothing but blind support. I asked a goddamn good question and it has never been answered. In fact I feel its been ignored on purpose.
You kids want to believe it so it must be true. The guy either doesnt know or is lying his goddamn ass off about that car. I dont give a **** what car it is. It aint picking up a 100% goddamn gain in AWHP from exhaust, intake, e85 and 4-6 more psi of boost! 80-100AWHP less than any evo I can find.
If you kids want to believe that then go right ahead but the joke is on you.
I await your stupid ****ing responces that completely ignores anything of common sense.
Yeah I know dipshit... Im ignorant.
Over and out
first - do more research.
second - its 4-6 more psi at redline, as it spools it hits 30 and tapers down as engine speed increases cause the turbo cant keep up.
third - e85 opens up a new world as far as the tune goes
fourth - there is a list of 20 people that are essentially doing the same thing as the op is doing, its been done by many people at many shops many times.
fifth - jokes on you. do more research.
edit: op: ur numbers are from a mustang dyno?
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I don't know man, while some have been pretty vocal against the OP, it seems the people defending the way the mod list was presented are being ignorant (and there are fewer of you guys than those questioning this kill story btw). Expecting anyone who isn't specifically into evo's to know what each of those mods requires as far as supporting mods go is pretty lame if you ask me.
I guess I am just against listing mods in a fashion that leads one to believe that is the only performance enhancing modification they have. Cam only, upper pulley only, all stupid in my opinion. Those terms were probably originally created to purposely be deceptive. Who would normally think that saying cam only means the only ENGINE Mod, unless they were already familar with the term? The purpose is to trick a person who owns a different make of car into thinking the car is less modified than it really is, plain and simple.
Let's be honest, even though those modifications may need certain supporting mods, not everyone does them. How are we to know if he took the time to properly setup his car unless he specifically states it?
Its not anyone's problem but their own when they make an ill informed decision to bash the OP, and don't know what they are talking about. Read below
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first - do more research.
second - its 4-6 more psi at redline, as it spools it hits 30 and tapers down as engine speed increases cause the turbo cant keep up.
third - e85 opens up a new world as far as the tune goes
fourth - there is a list of 20 people that are essentially doing the same thing as the op is doing, its been done by many people at many shops many times.
fifth - jokes on you. do more research.
edit: op: ur numbers are from a mustang dyno?
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why are people so mad that this car runs a great 1/4 mile time with the stock turbo....the big factor for the OP IS the E85 and the extra boost.....I guess the "haters" forget that it's also AWD which allows him a great launch.
just look at the MPH numbers - not like they are staggering at all
how about you guys look at it this way, with a ported, tuned, and pulleyed cobra --> from a roll, you should be able to beat him but at a 1/4 mile, he's probably going to be beating you....
the man posted video evidence for christ sake.....
Its not anyone's problem but their own when they make an ill informed decision to bash the OP, and don't know what they are talking about. Read below
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Well I guess I shouldn't expect a real answer from you to my statement. I guess your right, everyone is just stupid because they don't know that his orginal mod list actually consist of what was posted later. I guess the evo guys from that site are also dumb for not knowing what those mods are capable of doing since they also questioned him.
Not knowing what his car can do with certain mods is a lot different than not knowing his mods period, which is what caused the confusion in here.
Well I guess I shouldn't expect a real answer from you to my statement. I guess your right, everyone is just stupid because they don't know that his orginal mod list actually consist of what was posted later. I guess the evo guys from that site are also dumb for not knowing what those mods are capable of doing since they also questioned him.
Not knowing what his car can do with certain mods is a lot different than not knowing his mods period, which is what caused the confusion in here.
i have seen a race between two cobras with basicly the same mods, switch drivers with the same result with one car is 4 - 5 car lenghts faster
same for Evos, STi and as well as other cars
the OP's Evo is not your average Evo with similar mods, his in the top 5 fastest stock turbo list for a reason
why is everyone so worked up with dyno numbers anyways, we all know it means nothing,
my friends LS1 z28 made 403whp on Dynojet, 3 hours later we drove to our friend shop who has a very low reading AWD mustang dyno, the same car made 314whp at best, we initially tought the tune was falling apart took it back to the tuner and it was fine, 1 week later we visited a dynoday from a different shop, they also had a dynojet, they did 3 pulls the same car made 429whp at best? and yes it was slightly hotter day also, we all LOLed how BS dyno numbers can be after that
AWD will ussully trap lower than RWD or FWD cars
i have seen a AWD car trap 116mph then race was 120 - 123mph RWD/FWD car and still win
so idk
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second - its 4-6 more psi at redline, as it spools it hits 30 and tapers down as engine speed increases cause the turbo cant keep up.
third - e85 opens up a new world as far as the tune goes
fourth - there is a list of 20 people that are essentially doing the same thing as the op is doing, its been done by many people at many shops many times.
fifth - jokes on you. do more research.
edit: op: ur numbers are from a mustang dyno?
He said it spikes 33psi but is more like 22psi. Im guessing on average...? Im going by what he said. Ill take his word about his car over yours.
e85 is not some freakin magical elixor of the gods. It has a higher octane rating allowing for more timing and boost to be run. You can do the same damn thing with race gas. Its just more expensive.
Please show me the list of 20 people with their mods. No bs Id really like to see it. Im all for learning more.
I never said once I dont believe the op's power, times, or ability to kill an out gunned Terminator. You kids are so wrapped up in "Owning" somebody or calling names to notice a real car guy with a real question. From the research Ive done he is 80-100awhp ahead of everybody else wth the same mods or more mods.
The only way Im ignorant is if I DONT ask HOW?
If you can point me to some list or some better info please do. Id be more than happy to say Im wrong. My guess is you cant.
PS. If you cant handle car guys asking tough questions then youre in the wrong place. Wrong hobby. Hell half of you are damn kids anyway. There should be an age discription under your user name. LOL!!
Just a joke(I think) of course but dont get your feelings hurt so much. Its just shop talk. Nothing is personal.
Im gonna crack a Natty. Whos with me?
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He is in the same ballpark as most other e85 evos. 400whp is very common and can be pushed much higher with a ported head and very agressive cams. His setup is not that unusual, you just have to have the right combination of parts. The driving makes a huge difference though. The fastest stock turbo trap speed is 125+mph also.
e85 is not some freakin magical elixor of the gods. It has a higher octane rating allowing for more timing and boost to be run. You can do the same damn thing with race gas. Its just more expensive.
E85 is the shit. You got to be careful with it though, because it's easy to reach MBT and not pick up any knock. I was doing some logging one day and found out my second fuel pump wasn't kicking on. 13:1 afr's, 30psi, and 17deg of timing and didn't knock one bit. I obviously didn't do any more pulls, but I was amazed that it didn't blow something up.
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He said it spikes 33psi but is more like 22psi. Im guessing on average...? Im going by what he said. Ill take his word about his car over yours.
e85 is not some freakin magical elixor of the gods. It has a higher octane rating allowing for more timing and boost to be run. You can do the same damn thing with race gas. Its just more expensive.
Please show me the list of 20 people with their mods. No bs Id really like to see it. Im all for learning more.
I never said once I dont believe the op's power, times, or ability to kill an out gunned Terminator. You kids are so wrapped up in "Owning" somebody or calling names to notice a real car guy with a real question. From the research Ive done he is 80-100awhp ahead of everybody else wth the same mods or more mods.
The only way Im ignorant is if I DONT ask HOW?
If you can point me to some list or some better info please do. Id be more than happy to say Im wrong. My guess is you cant.
PS. If you cant handle car guys asking tough questions then youre in the wrong place. Wrong hobby. Hell half of you are damn kids anyway. There should be an age discription under your user name. LOL!!
Just a joke(I think) of course but dont get your feelings hurt so much. Its just shop talk. Nothing is personal.
Im gonna crack a Natty. Whos with me?
ill pass on the beer, im a liquor kinda guy, ha.
i dont care about owning anyone. in fact, ive never even said or typed that my whole life in regards to any situation ive ever experienced. im not calling you out, just telling you to do more research. this link was already posted in the thread, theyre all maxed out stock turbo set ups, and thats just the top 20:
its kinda gay like the "cam only ls1" stuff everyone mentioned in this thread. they all have the same basic mods, using a stock turbo.
my feelings arent hurt. these arent tough questions either, they actually have obvious answers. all the information is there for ya if you just look for it.
here is #4 on that list, just as fast as stryker all his mods for our viewing pleasure: