That's my point. There are more cobras and evos running around with tons of money dumped into them that are slow then ones that are fast working with stock components. Lets take for instance a cobra making 585 at the wheels getting beat repeatedly by a evo with 450. The price of KB is prob more than I have in my entire car. How much is a KB or Whipple?
Yes, I know people have gone crazy fast on stock blowers, you don't need to tell me.
That's my point. There are more cobras and evos running around with tons of money dumped into them that are slow then ones that are fast working with stock components. Lets take for instance a cobra making 585 at the wheels with a slipping clutch getting beat repeatedly by a evo with 450. The price of KB is prob more than I have in my entire car. How much is a KB or Whipple?
Yes, I know people have gone crazy fast on stock blowers, you don't need to tell me.
like stated before you ran a poor running kb cobra (still dealing w/ small bugs that will be address'd pretty soon) why you havent accepted packy or stangliter offer of meeting half way, i'm pretty sure they'll give you a run for your $$ and then some..
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That's my point. There are more cobras and evos running around with tons of money dumped into them that are slow then ones that are fast working with stock components. Lets take for instance a cobra making 585 at the wheels getting beat repeatedly by a evo with 450. The price of KB is prob more than I have in my entire car. How much is a KB or Whipple?
Yes, I know people have gone crazy fast on stock blowers, you don't need to tell me.
So you paid around $3,500 for your Evo 9 and mods.?. Damn where can I get one of those from?
He probably doesn't wanna meet up because his stock car coudn't make the drive. Anyway I would have to came down to WPB dragstrip last Fri. for TnT but they didn't have it. Just to make a few passes and hopefully line up next to Stryker. I am sure he waited for a reason since I leave CF this week and won't be back for 4 months or so...
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reason people call bs, because that list of 20 alot of them guys have 400awhp or less and some of them have aftermarket, cams, so hes making 50 or more hp and running faster times then prob 1,0000000 other evos and faster then about 18 of them on the list with more hp and less mods, so u should take ur own advice read why he and others and myself called bs,
I agreed with you because everyone is talking about doing some research.....blah blah blah but when in real life is totally different story.....I've never question the OP of beating the Cobra except for the mod list and his output power.....(it didn't add up) It took a while for him to explain that after like how many posts.....
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03snake, I thought you had a new clutch last time we met up. Don't take any of this personal, I am only using your car as an example. When everything is in tip top shape let me know. Btw way talked to my buddy at HPLogic and its 75 for a few baseline runs just to see whats going on.
Packy, its a little childish to twist my words as to take away from my point. I also think its a little much to drive 2 hrs to run some people who called me out on a forum.
03snake, I thought you had a new clutch last time we met up. Don't take any of this personal, I am only using your car as an example. When everything is in tip top shape let me know. Btw way talked to my buddy at HPLogic and its 75 for a few baseline runs just to see whats going on.
Packy, its a little childish to twist my words as to take away from my point. I also think its a little much to drive 2 hrs to run some people who called me out on a forum.
As for twisting your words well you said them so I was just being literal. Your point was pretty dumb IMHO.
Well it would have only been an hour maybe less but you never responded. If you would have responded to my original post I would have come down to WPB to hang out one night last weekend if there was going to be something worth while to race there. Keep in mind my Cobra is in the Netherlands at my house there so I would have been in my other car. I would have liked to see this intake/exhaust/tuned Evo 9... Maybe I could have taken a few snapshots of it for everyone here to look at.?. Oh well I am outta here tomorrow and back for one more day next Saturday then off to my home away from home.
That's my point. There are more cobras and evos running around with tons of money dumped into them that are slow then ones that are fast working with stock components. Lets take for instance a cobra making 585 at the wheels getting beat repeatedly by a evo with 450. The price of KB is prob more than I have in my entire car. How much is a KB or Whipple?
Yes, I know people have gone crazy fast on stock blowers, you don't need to tell me.
Thats the problem, many expect a car to just be fast with either a high dyno number or just a shitload of parts thrown at it.
I'll use my friends 04 Cobra as an example of one that gets the job done running a 10.91 @ 126 with a minimal investment in parts:
It has:
Ported stock blower
twin 65mm TB
55lb injectors
2.8 upper pulley (lower is stock)
Aux adler pulley
Steeda Under hood Filter
Catted x pipe (still has stock manifolds)
Slp cat back (For a GT / SRA)
Spec3+ clutch and 26spl input shaft
Solid rear swap from a GT w/ 3.73 gears
6 cyl front springs / stock GT rears
Gt struts and shocks
15" weld draglites w/ 26x10.0 ET Drag slicks
RaceRelated tune (I think it was 508 rwhp???)
Then I've seen over 600rwhp KB or whipple cobras running 11.5's at 121....WTF, lol
Packy, judging by what your TA ran it would be a good race. I guess I missed out. When you get back it should still be cold out. If you still feel up to it. Only 8lbs on a built ls1, would like to see what some spray or a few more lbs would do. I built a c5 with one of the first p1sc vett kit sold in FL. Off road x pipe corsa indy exhaust Edd Wright tune. Only 6 lbs. Pretty mild, it was my fathers car.
Stangliter04, I will be helping a friend out on a 2jz-gte swap into a 300gs with a 72mm turbo in the next few weeks. He lives in PSL, I can take the evo one day and it won't be much of a drive to meet up. I will pm you. Then we can start a new thread and let this one die. LOL
Packy, judging by what your TA ran it would be a good race. I guess I missed out. When you get back it should still be cold out. If you still feel up to it. Only 8lbs on a built ls1, would like to see what some spray or a few more lbs would do. I built a c5 with one of the first p1sc vett kit sold in FL. Off road x pipe corsa indy exhaust Edd Wright tune. Only 6 lbs. Pretty mild, it was my fathers car.
Stangliter04, I will be helping a friend out on a 2jz-gte swap into a 300gs with a 72mm turbo in the next few weeks. He lives in PSL, I can take the evo one day and it won't be much of a drive to meet up. I will pm you. Then we can start a new thread and let this one die. LOL
It ran those times last year... I should be back in April.
do you know the white boosted probe that traps 122-123? this was before i went to pbir and clutch was ok (this was a 40 punch) YouTube - WestPalmGT Vs 03DS3COBRA
I trap 118/119 at best so I dont know where this 120ish traps came from. This is the 2nd thread you said this in.
Thats all I got with my stock block Probe. I did turn up the boost on our run and look what happend...the turbo took a shit so I wont be doing that again. Your trying to set up races with me with cars way out of my league. I trapped 118 mostly and my best was a 119 a few times. So any 122 0r 123 trap car would be a waste of there time. Dont get me wrong Ill run anyone but Im sure as hell not driving to anyone to get my ass handed to me.
Ill be on a new set up when the car is done but again im still not going to be fast enough for you or most of the 120 plus cars on this site.
Thats all I got with my stock block Probe. I did turn up the boost on our run and look what happend...the turbo took a shit so I wont be doing that again. Your trying to set up races with me with cars way out of my league. I trapped 118 mostly and my best was a 119 a few times. So any 122 0r 123 trap car would be a waste of there time. Dont get me wrong Ill run anyone but Im sure as hell not driving to anyone to get my ass handed to me.
Unless your ONLY doing rolls, I would not be too concerened with a 4-5 MPH trap spread. Obviously the higher trap car has the advantage of more power (or better power to weight), but that is not the end all be all.
If they can hook on the street somewhat close to as good as they do at the track, a 12.30 car trapping 111 is going to be a 12.50 car trapping 117
Thats all I got with my stock block Probe. I did turn up the boost on our run and look what happend...the turbo took a shit so I wont be doing that again. Your trying to set up races with me with cars way out of my league. I trapped 118 mostly and my best was a 119 a few times. So any 122 0r 123 trap car would be a waste of there time. Dont get me wrong Ill run anyone but Im sure as hell not driving to anyone to get my ass handed to me.
Ill be on a new set up when the car is done but again im still not going to be fast enough for you or most of the 120 plus cars on this site.
so what if you are a 119 trap car and I was wrong, you upped the boost to race me, that would more than likely make you trap a lil "higher", so I just guesstimated that, same way you guesstimated my car 'should' be a "125mph" car and I told you 'maybe', but for x reason that hasn't happened, so at the end of the day is all bench racing and i'm ok w/ that as long as you don't get bent out of shape.
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Raped? What does a ported blower cobra run? I run low 11 to high 10's
^^^ with the mods you have you should only be around 300-330awhp there is no way you are pulling off high 10's with just those mods, here in orlando there is a E85 evo that has weight reduction, full turbo back exhaust, boost controller bigger fmic etc.....and dyno tuning from CFT he runs low 11's with slicks. i have seen it in person! CFT also has an STi that has a GT35R with supporting mods and on high boost his best pass was a 10.4 @ 130+mph.......you are gonne tell me you run high 10's???? what do you trap then? i gurrantee you raced a CAI catback cobra and that is all. only reason you might win on the track with that "11 sec car" is because you have the advantage of all wheel drive dude........all i have to say is post up some vids of this 10 sec car!!!
EDIT: this thread is almost 3 months old......who the **** dug it up?
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^^^ with the mods you have you should only be around 300-330awhp there is no way you are pulling off high 10's with just those mods, here in orlando there is a E85 evo that has weight reduction, full turbo back exhaust, boost controller bigger fmic etc.....and dyno tuning from CFT he runs low 11's with slicks. i have seen it in person! CFT also has an STi that has a GT35R with supporting mods and on high boost his best pass was a 10.4 @ 130+mph.......you are gonne tell me you run high 10's???? what do you trap then? i gurrantee you raced a CAI catback cobra and that is all. only reason you might win on the track with that "11 sec car" is because you have the advantage of all wheel drive dude........all i have to say is post up some vids of this 10 sec car!!!
EDIT: this thread is almost 3 months old......who the **** dug it up?
Wow, regardless of who dug it up, maybe you should read the ENTIRE thread before putting your useless two cents in. The guy he raced has been posting in it, and it is in fact a KB car, and the OP does infact make the power and run the times that he's claimed. He may have more mods then listed, but they are not major power producing mods, they are called supporting mods.
He makes the power and runs the times with pulling every last bit of boost/airflow out of that stock turbo. It goes that same as eaton cars running better then twin screw cars. Or a cam only ls1 running better then H/C cars (I've seen that MANY times).
Its a matter of having the entire car dialed in. Let me guess, a blower olny, eaton terminator cant run in the 9s with a around 500-525 RWHP either?
Wow, regardless of who dug it up, maybe you should read the ENTIRE thread before putting your useless two cents in. The guy he raced has been posting in it, and it is in fact a KB car, and the OP does infact make the power and run the times that he's claimed. He may have more mods then listed, but they are not major power producing mods, they are called supporting mods.
He makes the power and runs the times with pulling every last bit of boost/airflow out of that stock turbo. It goes that same as eaton cars running better then twin screw cars. Or a cam only ls1 running better then H/C cars (I've seen that MANY times).
Its a matter of having the entire car dialed in. Let me guess, a blower olny, eaton terminator cant run in the 9s with a around 500-525 RWHP either?
no there are 9 sec eaton cobra's......you think im gonna sit here and re-read 14 pages of crap......if the evo is a 10 sec car where is the vid of it running that?
obviously this thread is old but there is a ton of ignorance
its really pretty normal to run bottom 11's on a stock motor and turbo evo with a good tune and a decent driver.AWDmotorsports in coral springs Florida is the best evo tuner in the country and they hold all the records after only being in the evo game for 2yrs.derick(diirk) the tuner of the op's car is awesome and has tuned quite a few of my friends cars with awesome results.its not uncommon to see 450 hp on a stock turbo and motor evo with just meth or e85 with the simple boltons he has listed.the 9 has came with a mivec head which is alot better than the head on the 8's.thats the reason the 9 doesnt need cams although a 8 with a nice set of bumpsticks works just as well. for all the doubters check out evolutionm.net theres only a few thousand owners and tuners that can prove you wrong.
i sold my mustang to get a evo just because of the potential they have as a awesome daily and track car.
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no there are 9 sec eaton cobra's......you think im gonna sit here and re-read 14 pages of crap......if the evo is a 10 sec car where is the vid of it running that?
No one claimed that he's run 10s (atleast not that I can remember, it has been 3 months, lol), he's working on hitting a 10 on the stock turbo (it has been done by others already), and has gone bottom 11s already.
Many people underestimate what can be done with those cars with minimal mods. Just because someone throws a shitload of parst at a car, does not automatically mean that he is going to out perform the guy with less parts that has the car set up right.
And sorry if I came off like a dick, but this thread is full of very similar comments like yours. He may not have disclosed EVERY SINGLE mod, but he posted the major mods. He was not bieng deceptive, just not beieng redundant posting the givens. It is OBVIOUS that he has more boost then stock to perform like that, but poeple were crying thet he didn't list the boost level....etc.
No one claimed that he's run 10s (atleast not that I can remember, it has been 3 months, lol), he's working on hitting a 10 on the stock turbo (it has been done by others already), and has gone bottom 11s already.
Many people underestimate what can be done with those cars with minimal mods. Just because someone throws a shitload of parst at a car, does not automatically mean that he is going to out perform the guy with less parts that has the car set up right.
And sorry if I came off like a dick, but this thread is full of very similar comments like yours. He may not have disclosed EVERY SINGLE mod, but he posted the major mods. He was not bieng deceptive, just not beieng redundant posting the givens. It is OBVIOUS that he has more boost then stock to perform like that, but poeple were crying thet he didn't list the boost level....etc.
i get what you are saying and he did say he runs 10's -
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Raped? What does a ported blower cobra run? I run low 11 to high 10's
obviously this thread is old but there is a ton of ignorance
its really pretty normal to run bottom 11's on a stock motor and turbo evo with a good tune and a decent driver.AWDmotorsports in coral springs Florida is the best evo tuner in the country and they hold all the records after only being in the evo game for 2yrs.derick(diirk) the tuner of the op's car is awesome and has tuned quite a few of my friends cars with awesome results.its not uncommon to see 450 hp on a stock turbo and motor evo with just meth or e85 with the simple boltons he has listed.the 9 has came with a mivec head which is alot better than the head on the 8's.thats the reason the 9 doesnt need cams although a 8 with a nice set of bumpsticks works just as well. for all the doubters check out evolutionm.net theres only a few thousand owners and tuners that can prove you wrong.
i sold my mustang to get a evo just because of the potential they have as a awesome daily and track car.
i thought AMS and CFT were the best go to evo guys and for the record AMS and CFT are the record holders for both quickest 1/8th and 1/4th mile and power output via awhp just a quick pass by the ams,cft and titan built evo
i thought AMS and CFT were the best go to evo guys
actually buschur racing and awdmotorsports are the best tuners out
ams makes great stuff but are way way overpriced compared to a buschur product that is just as good if not better. most of their cars(ams) dont make shit for power/times on pump gas because all they care about are dyno numbers
the only reason everyone likes cft is they love to tune for power and they had tuned the proccolino evo which made awesome numbers.they have decent tunes for sure but are no where near the best for evo's they are just a decent overall tuner
awdmotorsports has only been around for alittle over 2 yrs and they hold every record that matters.all of the cars they tune/build are super safe but make great power and usually can back it up at the track.their aem tuner crisspeed will throw any other tuner out the window with his skills.all of the employees have evo's that are modded and run amazing times at the track.derick the tuner of the ops car ran bottom 10' s on a stock motor transfer case with a red turbo and normal boltons.the reason i would trust them so much is because they live what they do.most tuners dont do this and to me its like going to a tuner for a honda that drives a big block chevy,why would anyone do that? i feel more at piece that they hold the records and they actually have what they build
^^^ my last resort....my dad can beat up your dad! i have heard a lot of positive feedback from buschur racing. i have a friend on xboxlive that owns a quick evo and everypart on his car is from them. his name is austin but everyone knows him as Mellonpopr aka mellon tuning evo. he does e-mail tunes
^^^ my last resort....my dad can beat up your dad!
lol its all good im a evo fanboy at heart thats why im buying one now.ams and cft do good work but as i said all the records that matter to me are awd's.theres faster cars out but not a street car with full interior that can be driven daily
I would have liked to see this intake/exhaust/tuned Evo 9... Maybe I could have taken a few snapshots of it for everyone here to look at.?. Oh well I am outta here tomorrow and back for one more day next Saturday then off to my home away from home.
I should be back in April. 
so what if you are a 119 trap car and I was wrong, you upped the boost to race me, that would more than likely make you trap a lil "higher", so I just guesstimated that, same way you guesstimated my car 'should' be a "125mph" car and I told you 'maybe', but for x reason that hasn't happened, so at the end of the day is all bench racing and i'm ok w/ that as long as you don't get bent out of shape.
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