I pulled an evo with my stock pulley 03 cobra (404 rwhp/396 torque). The guy with the evo said he had about 300 hp at the wheels so may not have been modded that much.
My car is an evo9 with turbo back exhaust, ported intake, stock cams, stock turbo, stock block, e85, inter cooler, and piping.
actual list of mods: (detailed list)
epm o2 dump
ported e/mani
ported i/mani
ported tb
forge waste gate actuator
forge bov
forge bc
ets piping
ets intake
ets 3" ic
exedy twin HD
shep trans 8 3rd 4th
1000cc injectors
255 pump
diiirk tune
spikes 33 and drops
bone stock 9 turbo with 31,000 miles
weight reduction no back seate/passenger seat/ bumper supports etc
396awhp 100 % meth tune 451hp race tune / e85 23-33psi
now a cobra comparison again:
My car is an 2003 cobra with cat back exhaust, intake, stock cams, stock eaton, stock block,pulley, tune
People then would call bs! you beat the driver 8 pages of bs will start,
then the truth comes out of mod list.
oh my mod list is
(detailed list)
2003 cobra
k&n intake
ported tb / plenum
ported eaton
2.8 upper pulley
lower pulley
full exaust=
long tubes
xpipe
catback)
full mmx suspension
k member
solid axle swap
3.73 gears
315 nitto drag radials
race gas tune
tuned by xxx
535rwhp
no back seat, no passenger seat
see how big of a diff when u explain shit more, its funny guys are bitching about this, but it makes sense cobra guys explain this stuff on here cause its a MUSTANG FORUM!
just like he was mored detailed on the evo forum if u go look when evo guys asked him in 15+page thread on his fellow evo forum guys wanted to kno how hes running 450awhp and 11.1 with stock turbo to, they said the same shit i did they wanted to kno how he makes all that power etc and how did u get them numbers out of that setup nblah blah , then it made more sense when u break down thast all i been saying! it makes it look like he was lieing...
That's last time im gonna say about this.. if you cant see what I mean your simply retarted if weight reduction boost levels and non power mods dont make a diff in how the car performs you sir are RETARTED!
if boost makes no diff lets do a test of a guy with a stock turbo evo making 18-23psi pump and e85 non ported stuff etc., and a guy with port work e85 23-30+psi with a list of other " non " power mods because you guys " claim" makes no diff,
hmm thaty makes a bigg diff cause the 1st evo would be 250-350awhp, and the other evo would be 330-400+awhp and power to weight = big diff...
I don't really understand how you rationalize with yourself that you are right on this one. Seriously? It's like saying a pullied cobra, or a cam only LS1. Those other parts are a given. The weight reduction is really not that big of a factor....
Or maybe he just wanted to laugh at you with the rest of us while you try to back pedal you're way out of the fact that you don't know WTF you are talking about.... I know I LOL'd at you a few times....
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96 crystal white cobra.
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My car is an evo9 with turbo back exhaust, ported intake, stock cams, stock turbo, stock block, e85, inter cooler, and piping.
actual list of mods:
epm o2 dump
ported e/mani
ported i/mani
ported tb
forge waste gate actuator
forge bov
forge bc
ets piping
ets intake
ets 3" ic
exedy twin HD
shep trans 8 3rd 4th
1000cc injectors
255 pump
diiirk tune
spikes 33 and drops
bone stock 9 turbo with 31,000 miles
weight reduction no back seate/passenger seat/ bumper supports etc
396awhp 100 % meth tune 451hp race tune / e85 23-33psi
now a cobra comparison again:
My car is an 2003 cobra with cat back exhaust, intake, stock cams, stock eaton, stock block,pulley, tune
People then would call bs! you beat the driver 8 pages of bs will start,
then the truth comes out of mod list.
oh my mod list is
2003 cobra
k&n intake
ported tb / plenum
ported eaton
2.8 upper pulley
lower pulley
full exaust=
long tubes
xpipe
catback)
full mmx suspension
k member
solid axle swap
3.73 gears
315 nitto drag radials
race gas tune
tuned by xxx
535rwhp
no back seat, no passenger seat
dude just let it go.
anyone who knows about 03/04 cobras knows almost exactly what mods you mean when you say "intake, exhaust, ported blower, drag suspension, mild weight redux.."
- if you didnt know that about terminators, you need to do more research.
just the same as anyone who knows anything about an evo knows what they mean when they say "stock turbo, e85, exhaust, IC and piping, etc.."
- if you didnt know that about evos, you need to do more research.
he said what is mods were, he said "turbo back exhaust". do you want him to list individual pieces of the whole? if you didnt know how much power they were capable of with the mods he stated, thats ur fault for not knowing that.
exhaust
epm o2 dump
ported e/mani
intake
ported i/mani
ported tb
forge bov
forge bc
ets piping
ets intake
ets 3" ic
tranny
exedy twin HD
shep trans 8 3rd 4th
e85/tune
1000cc injectors
255 pump
diiirk tune
boost
spikes 33 and drops
bone stock 9 turbo with 31,000 miles
forge waste gate actuator
the only thing he didnt mention in his origion post was the tranny stuff, which EVERYONE does to their evos bc theyre a transaxle band-aid application of awd. but if youd done more research youd have found that out. i grouped his mods into 5 basic categories. theyre all basic mods nothing special. so i guess he shoulda said, intake, exhaust, shep tranny, e85, and stock turbo/motor. every single evo guy would know exactly what hes talking about. im not even an evo guy and i know exactly what hes talking about. people just need to do more research.
/of 5th grade bickering.
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98 cobra - novi 2k build in process.
Damm that sux!I deff want to see a video with a new clutch u vs the evo
...but be ready for the hurt, I dont think this is a mustang forum anymore, [[[they are gonna tell you that that clutch makes no diff in how your car performed against the godly evo ]
lol,
it sure made a difference at the local 1/4 track, I could be a sucky driver as et is concerned but a low 118 mph trap speed its an indicator hat the car is down in power and/or clutch is slipping...
I don't really understand how you rationalize with yourself that you are right on this one. Seriously? It's like saying a pullied cobra, or a cam only LS1. Those other parts are a given. The weight reduction is really not that big of a factor....
Or maybe he just wanted to laugh at you with the rest of us while you try to back pedal you're way out of the fact that you don't know WTF you are talking about.... I know I LOL'd at you a few times....
haha. ever argued with someone who was too stupid to know they lost the argument?
I don't really understand how you rationalize with yourself that you are right on this one. Seriously? It's like saying a pullied cobra, or a cam only LS1. Those other parts are a given. The weight reduction is really not that big of a factor....
Exactly! Some are bieng so damn critical over every ****ing nut, bolt and spot weld on the car.
Just like the ignorant that do argue or question "cam only" ls1's. Toolbag:"there is no way that car went 10.80's with the only mod bieng a cam"
The ones that know:
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Originally Posted by harvboi05
haha. ever argued with someone who was too stupid to know they lost the argument?
he speaks the truth.
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Originally Posted by mustangmanjeff
My car is an 2003 cobra with cat back exhaust, intake, stock cams, stock eaton, stock block,pulley, tune
People then would call bs! you beat the driver 8 pages of bs will start,
then the truth comes out of mod list.
oh my mod list is
2003 cobra
k&n intake
ported tb / plenum
ported eaton
2.8 upper pulley
lower pulley
full exaust=
long tubes
xpipe
catback)
full mmx suspension
k member
solid axle swap
3.73 gears
315 nitto drag radials
race gas tune
tuned by xxx
535rwhp
no back seat, no passenger seat
Yor analagy just don't make any sence.
The thing is you LIED about the stock eaton. Yes an eaton came on the car stock. But it did not come ported stock, so its not a STOCK eaton.
The OP listed the ported items. Do you have proof that he is on a ported stock turbo? Or just making more assumptions?
If he really IS on a ported or modded stock turbo, then I guess some of this is somewhat justified, but most of it is still splitting hairs whining about the boost level and supporting mods.
I don't really understand how you rationalize with yourself that you are right on this one. Seriously? It's like saying a pullied cobra, or a cam only LS1. Those other parts are a given. The weight reduction is really not that big of a factor....
Or maybe he just wanted to laugh at you with the rest of us while you try to back pedal you're way out of the fact that you don't know WTF you are talking about.... I know I LOL'd at you a few times....
Quote:
Originally Posted by harvboi05
haha. ever argued with someone who was too stupid to know they lost the argument?
YOU TO PROVE MY POINT OUT OF 9 PAGES THERES COUNTLESS GUYS THAT SAID THE SAME SHIT LIKE ME, NOTICE THERES ONLY U 2 MORONS ANDM MAYBE THE 3RD STOOGE SOMEWHERE IN THIS THREAD, YOU GUYS ARE CLOWNS, YOU 2 ARE CLOWNS! if you can read and see, theres a big diff between a reg boosted evo and "HIS EVO" if its soooooo easy to kno what he means And I need to research then why with what his mods times power isnt more people doing it? oh thats right because hsi isnt a reg setup like others have said, and hes pushing alot of boost! you 2 are simply morons,I kno about evo's and cobras, u are a moron if u didnt see on page 2 my evo friends even said it was bs, and shorthanded, theres a big diff between his evo and others, if its every evo guy knos what he means, then why if u go to his post on evo forums its 15 pages, and he was more detailed boost levels no back seat etc, had exact dyno numbers boost levels and even FELLOW EVO GUYS ON THERE ASKED WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS LIKE I STATED HE SHOULD OF DONE ON HERE CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? My fellow evo friend is lol @ your post to he even agrees all it took was him to type how much boost he was pushing
But I guess, theres no diff if ur pushing 1 psi or 35psi in both of ur retards case
NOT!! once did he even mention his boost in there boost and weight reduction makes a big diff!
and if ur gonna go to the extreme of porting the other stuff why not port the turbo... you clowns make me lol
The thing is you LIED about the stock eaton. Yes an eaton came on the car stock. But it did not come ported stock, so its not a STOCK eaton.
The OP listed the ported items. Do you have proof that he is on a ported stock turbo? Or just making more assumptions?
If he really IS on a ported or modded stock turbo, then I guess some of this is somewhat justified, but most of it is still splitting hairs whining about the boost level and supporting mods.
You proved my point right there, he ported other stock stuff, how do you kno he didnt port the stock turbo? esp making gt30r power with a stock turbo port work with 33psi and e85 makes sense, esp if ur gonna port the other parts why wouldnt u port the turbo on a forced induction car when these cars make so much power and again supporting mods ( fuel etc etc) boost levels make a BIGGGGG DIFF ON A TURBO / FORCED INDUCTION CARS! you people make me lol this isnt a n/a car were talking about where u add fuel injectors etc and it make no diff just to run and tune better
boost / psi,port work ,fuel supporting mods on a turbo/sc car makes a big diff esp on cobras,evo's dsm's, etc etc...
to prove my point lets take 2 evos with similar mods, 1 with less psi/boost and the other with more boost supports mods who will win? (besides driver mod) oh thats right the guy with more boost...hmmmm
Last edited by mustangmanjeff; 11-03-2009 at 04:13 PM.
You proved my point right there, he ported other stock stuff, how do you kno he didnt port the stock turbo?
I did? He also posted about the items that were poretd right from the start.
Maybe you should do some research. Can he get the stock turbo record with a modded/ported turbo?
Maybe that would explin why he ported the other items.....and not the turbo
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustangmanjeff
boost / psi,port work ,fuel supporting mods on a turbo/sc car makes a big diff esp on cobras,evo's dsm's, etc etc...
to prove my point lets take 2 evos with similar mods, 1 with less psi/boost and the other with more boost supports mods who will win? (besides driver mod) oh thats right the guy with more boost...hmmmm
Again, you state the obvious. And those parts are a given. No one argued that a car with more boost would not be faster.
Yes he had more boost then stock.
Yes he had the supporting mods to do it.
No he did not post them.
Only a ****ing retard would argue and piss and moan about him not posting them.
It is a given that he had more boost then stock......... again with the "he didnt post about every single nut and bolt" shit.
I did? He also posted about the items that were poretd right from the start.
Maybe you should do some research. Can he get the stock turbo record with a modded/ported turbo?
Maybe that would explin why he ported the other items.....and not the turbo
Again, you state the obvious. And those parts are a given. No one argued that a car with more boost would not be faster.
Yes he had more boost then stock.
Yes he had the supporting mods to do it.
No he did not post them.
Only a ****ing retard would argue and piss and moan about him not posting them.
It is a given that he had more boost then stock......... again with the "he didnt post about every single nut and bolt" shit.
you simply are retarted hes pushing 33 FING PSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF 33psi is not alot and normal then why are most turbo cars 6-20psi NORMAL! or so 30+ is pretty much max boost on anycar, when your pushing that much boost I think ITS CRITICAL in a post TO POINT THAT OUT esp where you claim you beat a 500-600hp kb cobra you should be clear and say!! I mean come on now how hard is it to add to the end of it " 33psi " ..
THEN THIS THREAD WOULD NOT BE 9 PAGES LONG of 15+ guys not understanding it not just me, GET IT MORON!! this thread is over this post! to much
I woulld love to push 30+psi on a cobra and then lol @ some 1 like you and say hey 30psi is no big deal any moron can figure out this is supercharged cobra I dont have to explain that fact to you!
you do realize stock evo is like 17-19psi hes pushing 30+ he has double the boost! that sure doesnt make a diff does it ...
I am done because morons like you..
Last edited by mustangmanjeff; 11-03-2009 at 04:44 PM.
ROFLMAO at the stupidity of the comments mustangjeff has made, next time you want to call bs or start an interweb arguement at least know what a 10.5 hotside stock turbo evo can do on e85. They are the guys who really took the e85 and ran with it. Thanks to this alot of srt and sti owners are following the same path.
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2005 stone white srt4- 60 trim
407fwhp 379ftlbs at 22 psi, pump gas tune
TKmotorsports tuned By Tim Kim RIP
First off the turbo is stock with no porting. Not sure if porting is ok for it to be called stock.
Lets keep in mind that I can bolt on a fpred for 1500 bucks and make 550 safely with out any changes other than tune and larger injectors. I know of a few guy in FL over 600 with stock blocks.
I don't know what the duty cycle is. I do know to make over 500 I need to go bigger.
mpe331lx- we get the fact that you are trying to stick up for your boy and that you are a EVO nutswinger. But as has been pointed out to you, the whole reason he got called out for BS is because HE was disingenuous about what he was running- pure and simple. If you don't understand that you're a bigger nutswinger than we thought. Yeah- most of us are Mustang guys but that doesn't mean we are the idiots you make us out to be- see most of us understand what it takes the cars driven by our rivals to perform well. So when we see the original post by your boy we are skeptical. If that makes YOU butthurt that's your problem- not ours. Instead of US having to do research to find out if your boy is full of shit or not perhaps he should just be straight up.....I know- probably a foreign concept to you. Try it sometime though- it works.
Lets all be honest. The people who called BS are the ones who are butthurt. Yes, it is true the cobra can be beaten by a car with a 2.0 engine with basic bolt ons. NO, no, no, this cant be true. I know he's lying, yes thats it. Boo, boo we call BS. What he wasn't lying? Well he's lying about his parts. Boo, boo BS BS. OH, wasn't lying. Well he kind of lied. He didn't state what color the car was, the tires we not even the factory ones, what about that hose clamp, or or or, the oil filter, what kind of wax. I heard one time he took out the passenger seat. That car is just a stripped down race car.
Th funniest part is all the people who are hating have slower cars.
Calm down, forums are for entertainment are you all not entertained. Only 222 replies and what 3800 views so far. I think this turned out to be a pretty great thread.
It's like saying a pullied cobra, or a cam only LS1. Those other parts are a given. The weight reduction is really not that big of a factor....
he speaks the truth.
will start,
if its every evo guy knos what he means, then why if u go to his post on evo forums its 15 pages, and he was more detailed boost levels no back seat etc, had exact dyno numbers boost levels and even FELLOW EVO GUYS ON THERE ASKED WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS LIKE I STATED HE SHOULD OF DONE ON HERE CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? My fellow evo friend is lol @ your post to he even agrees all it took was him to type how much boost he was pushing
boost and weight reduction makes a big diff!
and again supporting mods ( fuel etc etc) boost levels make a BIGGGGG DIFF ON A TURBO / FORCED INDUCTION CARS! you people make me lol this isnt a n/a car were talking about where u add fuel injectors etc and it make no diff just to run and tune better
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