The intercooler system is a closed system and therefore subject to pressure build up . When the water/ antifreeze mix is heated it will expand. Since fluids are not compressable and if the system is full it will begin to build pressure albeit maybe not as much as the engine cooling system but still somewhat.
I believe it is for this reason Ford thought it important enough to include a 16lb rated cap with a relief valve built into it on the stock tank.
In norman street driving there is probably nothing to worry about however under extreme use (like durring track time on a road course) the system will be tested to the fullest.
If the heat exchanger is not up to the task and without the 16 lb saftey cap temperatures could increase enough where the pressure build up could potentially reach a critical point to where a system failure could occur , such as a blown hose or possibly even a ruptured intercooler core.
IMO this senerio could apply to any manufactured tank without the factory style stock type saftey cap.
I'm just trying to point out what I feel could be a very important saftey issue to consider when choosing any aftermarket HE tank.
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91Svtbird
You bring up a very valid point, I'm sure Steve will chime in and have an answer.
The intercooler system is a closed system and therefore subject to pressure build up . When the water/ antifreeze mix is heated it will expand. Since fluids are not compressable and if the system is full it will begin to build pressure albeit maybe not as much as the engine cooling system but still somewhat.
A very minor issue. Please forgive the lack of specifics, as it has been 14 years since I have studied fluid dynamics and thermodynamics.
The fluid will expand when it gets warm but the simplest solution is: Just don't fill the tank to the top! Leave a 1/2" air gap at the top and if any pressure is created it will compress the air gap without exerting any significant pressure on the closed system.
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A very minor issue. Please forgive the lack of specifics, as it has been 14 years since I have studied fluid dynamics and thermodynamics.
The fluid will expand when it gets warm but the simplest solution is: Just don't fill the tank to the top! Leave a 1/2" air gap at the top and if any pressure is created it will compress the air gap without exerting any significant pressure on the closed system.
I will gladly volunteer to be moved up the list to ensure that all my fellow SVTPerf members receive a solid product!
Yes an air space ( not sure only 1/2" would be enough though) will serve as an area for expansion of the fluid by compressing the air and will help keep pressures from climbing as much as they would if the tank was full. However there should still be a "saftey relief valve" in the system for excessive pressure to be vented in the event of a "worst case senerio".
I'm sure in most cases it will not be a problem if the resevoir tank isn't filled all the way but I do think it would be best if there was that extra measure of saftey .
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Yes an air space ( not sure only 1/2" would be enough though) will serve as an area for expansion of the fluid by compressing the air and will help keep pressures from climbing as much as they would if the tank was full. However there should still be a "saftey relief valve" in the system for excessive pressure to be vented in the event of a "worst case senerio".
I'm sure in most cases it will not be a problem if the resevoir tank isn't filled all the way but I do think it would be best if there was that extra measure of saftey .
well, it can be added but it will add to the price. maybe $10 or $20. in reality, 99.9% of these cars will not be driven that hard. of ALL the intercooler tanks on gt500s, terminators and Lightnings, from ALL manufacturers, none have a pressure relief system like you pointed out. how many incidences have been reported where someone has had some sort of catostrophic failure from something like youre suggesting. i understand that youre theorizing what could possibly happen, but apparently it hasnt happened in the thousands and thousands of of gt500s, cobras and Lightnings that are road raced on a regular basis
now for the radiator expansion tank, that we will be making (since people KEEP asking lol), we will make it so the stock cap will work with it, OR design one that will do the same thing.
guys, ill be contacting each person individually when im ready to start taking personalized orders and collecting funds. havent done so for anyone yet. so dont worry. right now im just trying to get caught up on our other GBs before getting this one launched. you still have time to get your order in before the discount cutoff
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now for the radiator expansion tank, that we will be making (since people KEEP asking lol), we will make it so the stock cap will work with it, OR design one that will do the same.
Try and keep it with the stock cap. I have to much invested in the billit covers and caps from Shelby.
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do you want it oem PAINT matched, or just powdercoated bright red?
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Unclear how to order one the new versions for the GT500. Can I do it online at this website -- True Forged Wheels custom billet. Thanks.
nope. online ordering and highly customized parts dont mix we deal with you directly to make sure you get what you want
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You doing overflow tanks yet BIOTCH?!?!? I want matching tanks...crinkle black with polished aluminum caps.
we WILL be making the overflow tanks. i assure you this. we have enough people asking us. and they'll work with the regular GTs too which is a big plus. not sure about the cap though. i think most people want to be able to retain the stock cap. we may be able to make a billet cap that fits onto the stocker though. so then you get the best of both worlds.
ok, everyone on the list and those who are intersted in ordering:
please, email me at info@trueforgedwheels.com
what i need is:
1. your real name
2. your user name
3. your shipping address (business or residential? please notate)
4. your phone number
5. your email address
6. your phone number (best to reach you at)
7. what finish and options you want for YOUR ice tank.
8. paypal or usps money order payment
i will then send you a paypal invoice (or a return email) with your total, itemized out.
the tanks are already in production as we speak. we have 20 on the being produced right now. if anyone still wants to get in on the special pricing, ill give you till Sunday Aug 2nd at midnight. i know its the weekend and im just typing up the payment process now and some of you might not be online for a few days. no worries. if youre ON the list already, youre good just shoot me your email as soon as you can.
ill be out of town all next week. heading down to the ATL to pick up a new toy. then driving back home and seeing a few sights along the way. ill be meeting up with a few guys here along the way as well. ill have limited email/forum access. my pm box will likely fill up so email me if you need to contact me: info@trueforgedwheels.com
hopefully these tanks will be done by the time i get back, and ready to to their respective locations for finishes.
for custom etching, we have to wait till ALL the tanks are ready to go in at the same time, so it takes a little longer. but its worth it
unless youre getting a one-off custom design, like a build number, then you dont have to wait for anyone
thank you all for your interest. i look forward to shipping them out so you can get them in your cars asap and post up pics for more shelby guys to see
do you want it oem PAINT matched, or just powdercoated bright red?
nope. online ordering and highly customized parts dont mix we deal with you directly to make sure you get what you want
we WILL be making the overflow tanks. i assure you this. we have enough people asking us. and they'll work with the regular GTs too which is a big plus. not sure about the cap though. i think most people want to be able to retain the stock cap. we may be able to make a billet cap that fits onto the stocker though. so then you get the best of both worlds.
ok, everyone on the list and those who are intersted in ordering:
please, email me at info@trueforgedwheels.com
what i need is:
1. your real name
2. your user name
3. your shipping address (business or residential? please notate)
4. your phone number
5. your email address
6. your phone number (best to reach you at)
7. what finish and options you want for YOUR ice tank.
8. paypal or usps money order payment
i will then send you a paypal invoice (or a return email) with your total, itemized out.
the tanks are already in production as we speak. we have 20 on the being produced right now. if anyone still wants to get in on the special pricing, ill give you till Sunday Aug 2nd at midnight. i know its the weekend and im just typing up the payment process now and some of you might not be online for a few days. no worries. if youre ON the list already, youre good just shoot me your email as soon as you can.
ill be out of town all next week. heading down to the ATL to pick up a new toy. then driving back home and seeing a few sights along the way. ill be meeting up with a few guys here along the way as well. ill have limited email/forum access. my pm box will likely fill up so email me if you need to contact me: info@trueforgedwheels.com
hopefully these tanks will be done by the time i get back, and ready to to their respective locations for finishes.
for custom etching, we have to wait till ALL the tanks are ready to go in at the same time, so it takes a little longer. but its worth it
unless youre getting a one-off custom design, like a build number, then you dont have to wait for anyone
thank you all for your interest. i look forward to shipping them out so you can get them in your cars asap and post up pics for more shelby guys to see
Steve
you got me on the list twice,
Red powder coated is fine
unless your doing a red crinkle?
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You need the info for the intercooler tanks or just the overflow.... BTW...you have my info biotch! I want both...crinkle black with polished caps.
no overflow tanks yet melbooger. those will be coming in a while. still need to get my hands on one and get to designing it. they will be coming, even if we only do 1 batch to shut you up
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Steve
you got me on the list twice,
Red powder coated is fine
unless your doing a red crinkle?
i thought you wanted two
im checking on the red crinkle. im sure they'll have it. this shop has pretty much EVERYTHING. and red crinkle would look way better. just red wont match, but red crinkle doesnt HAVE to match
btw, after discussing this with a few tuners/builders, we will be offering a pressure relief valve of some sort for those that want it. it appears this is really only pertinent to those that road race their cars. drag racing and street driving/racing doesnt seem to warrant this. it will not be a costly option at all, so all are welcome to add it if desired. right now my guy is looking into what will look/perform the best for the lowest cost. he said he's seen some nice in-line set ups that might work. ill post more info the week after next when i get back. but just know that we are looking to offer it with the tanks
thank you all for your direct input/feedback. we always take this into consideration so we can further improve our products. we dont just make it and say "well thats it"
Steve, Check this out. This may be exactly what is needed. Perhaps you could weld in an NPT nut somewhere on the bottom or side of all the tanks and install an NPT plug as standard, and the relief valve as an option. I would be interested as well.
Steve, Check this out. This may be exactly what is needed. Perhaps you could weld in an NPT nut somewhere on the bottom or side of all the tanks and install an NPT plug as standard, and the relief valve as an option. I would be interested as well.
If something like this was used, it would have to somehow be above the level of the fluid. If not, in an overpressure condition, the pressure and fluid will come out of the valve. That's why the the pressure relief valve is typically the cap.
If something like this was used, it would have to somehow be above the level of the fluid. If not, in an overpressure condition, the pressure and fluid will come out of the valve. That's why the the pressure relief valve is typically the cap.
ok, thank you for the important input. that will help in our search for the piece
edit: wait, isnt that what is supposed to happen?? the pressure/fluid come out of the valve
I know this is about the new tank but I just got one of the older tanks installed and I have to say it is awesome. The Afco inter-cooler will be next and I expect to see way lower IA Temps.
I just tried to order a tank from canton. I wanted it to have the large fuel cell cap to put ice in it. They told me if I ran the car on the street it also needed to have a vented pressure cap like the factory has. They are now going to build me a tank with 2 caps, one with the fuel cell cap and one that uses the factory 16psi cap. I am not sure if this is necessary but the factory uses one.
hey guys,
some of you have emailed me about your tanks and payment. i will be getting back to you shortly. ill probably work on it tomorrow. i was out all last week so im still trying to play ketchup
the tanks are well into production already, so no worries there.
last night we were discussing the pressure relief valve idea. we will probably be using one that will mount IN the cap. my guy will drill and tap a hole in the cap, to which the valve will thread in. looking as clean as possible of course. this will be a low cost option for those that want them and they can still be added any time up until the shipping date. we're looking to even be able to retrofit them onto our already shipped out 03 cobra tanks, for those that want them.
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