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Stage 3 HE? Check! - Stage 2 IC? Check!

Here we go again!!!

A while back I was contacted and asked to test some new cooling products and with all the talk about new AFCO coming out, I thought we would throw another one in the mix.

Currently on the way:

Stage 3 Triple Pass Heat Exchanger with twin 9” Spal Fans

Stage 2 Intercooler – This intercooler has been tested and ran on Hajek Motorsports 1500hp 2010 E-85/soy Mustang that set the land speed record at 258.41 mph! It has prov-en an efficiency rating in upper 90% range.

Heat Shield Gaskets and Pads – These Gaskets and Pads create a near impenetrable thermal Barrier between all of the intake tracks surfaces. The Composite developed blocked 500 TIMES the Surface to Surface Heat Transfer of any other gasket material available! See the chart below.

Dual Trunk Mounted Ice Tanks - With both tanks filled with ice, the hot fluid passes through the first tank to “Pre-Cool” it before it’s routed into the “Cold” Tank and back to the engine.

We’ll start testing the first HE in a couple weeks. Then the IC and Gaskets and finally the complete system with the Dual Tanks. I'll get the info out as it comes in so stay tuned!

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the new intercooler looks like a winner. How much bigger is it compared to the stocker? I'd like a look at the triple pass h/e as well.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I bet you could have used these when I saw your picture in the magazine this month at the track.

Awesome - more new products that look very promising for us !
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Thanks for the photos. Craftsmanship appears to be excellent!
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How do you take care of the burn when you swim through the stinging tentacles of a man-O-war?

Piss on it!

I'm having fun with Jim guys. I knew he was working on something for a while now and he's a friend.

You're killing me Lambo!! LOL

From a testing perspective are you going to do comparative data with and without the thermal gasketing on the new heat exchanger and intercooler?

What kind of other testing variables are you going to do?

Looking forward to the data.
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the new intercooler looks like a winner. How much bigger is it compared to the stocker? I'd like a look at the triple pass h/e as well.
The IC design is a single row just over 4in wide where the Stock unit is 2 row. I'll round up the exact measurements and get back to you!

I've only seen a prototype of the HE but it looks amazing. Soon as the final product arrives, I'll get photos up asap. It will equal the quality of the IC's seen above!
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Awesome - more new products that look very promising for us !
Thanks, We sure could have used something. Most everyone was a second or or more off their normal times that day. It was HOT, HOT, HOT!!! I was down 9mph from the norm.
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Thanks for the photos. Craftsmanship appears to be excellent!
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How do you take care of the burn when you swim through the stinging tentacles of a man-O-war?

Piss on it!

I'm having fun with Jim guys. I knew he was working on something for a while now and he's a friend.

You're killing me Lambo!! LOL

From a testing perspective are you going to do comparative data with and without the thermal gasketing on the new heat exchanger and intercooler?

What kind of other testing variables are you going to do?

Looking forward to the data.
Thanks Van,

I wasn't going to test without the gaskets, they are inexpensive and have been tested already. But I will since you asked.

As for the rest of the testing, the designer will call the shots there. It will be all real world testing. I'm more focused on the street and drag strip as that's what mine is used for but need to find someone willing to test on a road course.
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The IC design is a single row just over 4in wide where the Stock unit is 2 row. I'll round up the exact measurements and get back to you!

I've only seen a prototype of the HE but it looks amazing. Soon as the final product arrives, I'll get photos up asap. It will equal the quality of the IC's seen above!

Yup!

Thanks, We sure could have used something. Most everyone was a second or or more off their normal times that day. It was HOT, HOT, HOT!!! I was down 9mph from the norm.

Thank you sir.


Thanks Van,

I wasn't going to test without the gaskets, they are inexpensive and have been tested already. But I will since you asked.

As for the rest of the testing, the designer will call the shots there. It will be all real world testing. I'm more focused on the street and drag strip as that's what mine is used for but need to find someone willing to test on a road course.
need to find someone willing to test on a road course



When do you propose such a test?

Quick question. Can the thermal gaskets be used to encase the new and/or stock intercooler thus reducing the heat convection from the block to the intercooler core while the engine is stopped and/or running? You beat me to the punch on this one brother. Another project abandoned. LOL
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When do you propose such a test?

Quick question. Can the thermal gaskets be used to encase the new and/or stock intercooler thus reducing the heat convection from the block to the intercooler core while the engine is stopped and/or running? You beat me to the punch on this one brother. Another project abandoned. LOL
I don't think you'll gain much of an advantage by encasing the IC. The gasket set consist of a SC gasket, intake gaskets, IC gaskets and 4 thermal pads (not shown) that go under the intake. In theory, by isolating the components, heat transfer is greatly reduced even with the engine off, and it allows the components to cool back down much quicker after the engine starts and the fluid starts passing back through the system.

As for testing on the road course, if you are game, we'll discuss it more and come up with a plan. My problem is, I'm 10,000 miles away.
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I don't think you'll gain much of an advantage by encasing the IC. The gasket set consist of a SC gasket, intake gaskets, IC gaskets and 4 thermal pads (not shown) that go under the intake. In theory, by isolating the components, heat transfer is greatly reduced even with the engine off, and it allows the components to cool back down much quicker after the engine starts and the fluid starts passing back through the system.

As for testing on the road course, if you are game, we'll discuss it more and come up with a plan. My problem is, I'm 10,000 miles away.
That presents a distance probability factor of epic proportion.

However you want to do it bro.
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Fu@k'n awesome, I need to contact these guys, and get one made for my Ford Gt as im going to pump 35-40lbs of boost threw it!
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Looking forward to seeing the comparison results with the new innercooler and the stock one.

Gaskets look interesting too. thanks for sharing!
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When is it coming out? I really don't feel like taking out the whipple out for a third time . I was planning to install my crusher inlet this week.
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When is it coming out? I really don't feel like taking out the whipple out for a third time . I was planning to install my crusher inlet this week.
How you been Hector? The testing will start this week.

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You'll see a 36% increase in size!!
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Just R&R the stock intercooler?

The gaskets block 500 times more than a quality Phenolic gasket?

Glad to see new ideas coming to market - mainly before I pull the trigger on the Whipple
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The gaskets block 500 times more than a quality Phenolic gasket?

Glad to see new ideas coming to market - mainly before I pull the trigger on the Whipple
Yes, R&R the stock unit with the new gaskets. We'll test the stock pump as well as a upgraded pump in order to make a recommendation to get the best results.
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The gaskets are off the hook, they pretty much stop heat transfer inbetween the metals of the motor.
I will also be using some of this stuff in a couple different builds.
Thanks Jim for the hook up.
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That's awesome!

So far, the Dactyl/Shelby radiator, this intercooler, and the as-yet to be determined H/E. I know I'll send the radiator and H/E off to Swain to get coated with their BBE Heat Emitting Coating.
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I will also be using some of this stuff in a couple different builds.
Thanks Jim for the hook up.
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