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    01 cobra vs. 03 cobra

    He guys, before shit goes down, I just want to get your opinions on what might happen. I have an 01 cobra w/ an intercooled Procharger D1SC on it, 13psi. Car has 60lb injectors, 03 cobra tank, an off road x-pipe w/ Magnaflows, short throw shifter, 4.30 gears, MM adjustables, subfames, lowering springs and nitto drags. Car made 460rwhp and 386 tq. on a very conservative tune. My buddy has an 03 cobra w/ a 2.76 upper pulley, JLT intake, tune, high flow x-pipe w/ magnaflows, stock gears. His car also made 460rwhp w/ 460 tq. Now I know he made more tq. than me, but my car is also like 250lbs lighter. He has the 6 speed and I have the 5 speed w/ 4.30 gears. Obviously on the highway he would get me, how about from a dig? Or a 30mph roll? I dont get the best traction, but my car is an absolute animal from rolls! Let me know, thanks.
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    Rookie SVT Poster 2001CobraDan's Avatar
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    lol. yeah i figured it will be pretty close.

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    With the weight difference you should pull him. What speed are you topping out 4th with the 4.30s?
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    hes got more torque but with the weight difference should be drivers race

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    with the 4.30's, im doin about 125 at the top of fourth.

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    From a dig or a 10-20mph roll you will should be able to get him. But in the end I think it'll be drivers race.. tell him 10-20 to the top of fourth for you and see what happens.
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    my cousin in indiana has a s10 with a 350 in it, that sumbitch will burn the tires off when it hits second, he might race you

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpappy33 View Post
    With the weight difference you should pull him. What speed are you topping out 4th with the 4.30s?
    i couldnt image 4:30s, I honestly think with his 100tq more than you i think you will lose but not by a crazy amount. Unless you can hook like a beast from a dig and take him out of the hole. Im interested to know though good luck.
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    lol. yeah a 20mph roll to the top of fourth. I have Nitto NT555R Drag radials w/ lowering springs and subframe conectors, but I would have to totally ride the clutch put of the launch and/or just feather it until i get traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueviper5 View Post
    my cousin in indiana has a s10 with a 350 in it, that sumbitch will burn the tires off when it hits second, he might race you
    That is the most mullet-e comment I've ever heard.

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    hahahaha, mullet-e!!! thats great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2001CobraDan View Post
    Now I know he made more tq. than me, but my car is also like 250lbs lighter.
    with your mods, I'd think that the weight difference isn't as much as you think.. the only things that are really lighter are the engine block and your transmission, and that's not 250 lbs difference..

    any way it should be a good race..
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    CobraDan, have you stepped outside recently? It's like friggen 20 degrees outside brother! You trying to freeze those snakes or what? Put 'em away until the spring when it's warm out again...tires aren't gonna hook worth sh*t.
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    lol, i know the weather sucks in Ma. Im drivin it till they salt the roads though. My drag radials absolutely blow in this weather, so Id have to do a roll. But this air is great for boost!

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    ^^^im glad you are enjoying this air as well..my non intercooled KB devours this air...begs me to floor it just about everywhere..so i do lol...love this cold air car runs exc..goodluck and i hope you pull him!

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    01 cobra 3400 lbs 03 cobra 3600 lbs, so ya there is 200 or so lbs difference somewhere. Dan i'd wait till warmer days. we are more than likely gonna get saltd friday anyway.
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    you keep it in your powerband his torque will mean nothing. his torque qill help him till the first shift, IF... you dont start in your powerband. HP is HP. torque is good for off the line then nothing at all.
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    true, screw this salt! lol

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    yeah ive decided that since it would be such a close race and that this guy is a good friend of mine, that we wont do it. Why beat up on a fellow Ford enthusiats anyway? lol. I'd rather go beat up on some srt-4's or some spec-v's. lol

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    dont worry Dan, you'll have plenty of shances next summer. i think that 01 will surprise alot of people.

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    Gears and wt should put you over the top- why is your tq so low?
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    lol. yeah Matt I will have a lot of chances next summer, Vinny the Ginny
    And a lot of these centrifugal blower cars don't make the torque of the roots cars. My car is also very conservatively tuned, 11.1 AFR and 12 degrees timing. That could be the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2001CobraDan View Post
    yeah ive decided that since it would be such a close race and that this guy is a good friend of mine, that we wont do it. Why beat up on a fellow Ford enthusiats anyway? lol. I'd rather go beat up on some srt-4's or some spec-v's. lol
    Sounds like you two take losses too emotionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by assasinator View Post
    you keep it in your powerband his torque will mean nothing. his torque qill help him till the first shift, IF... you dont start in your powerband. HP is HP. torque is good for off the line then nothing at all.
    I disagree with this. Mine makes around 450 ft/lbs at 2000rpms, nearly 480 ft-lbs tq at 3800rpms, and drops off to around 400 ft/lbs at 6000rpms. The 03-04 cobras have prettly flat tq curve, they don't jump up fast and die off fast like some other forced induction cars. It's not all hp you feel when banging gears. I can post my graph, but I'm sure many have seen these plenty of times.

    Also I don't see the 03 getting traction either. I have nitto dr's and first gear is worthless at only 1/2-3/4 throttle.
    I really think it's a drivers race. And weight cannot be compared by the factory specs as the OP has SFC's, a blower, and maybe some other things that add weight. But the 03 might have some added weight as well.
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