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Thread: 01 cobra vs. 03 cobra
12-08-2010, 02:14 PM #1
01 cobra vs. 03 cobra
He guys, before shit goes down, I just want to get your opinions on what might happen. I have an 01 cobra w/ an intercooled Procharger D1SC on it, 13psi. Car has 60lb injectors, 03 cobra tank, an off road x-pipe w/ Magnaflows, short throw shifter, 4.30 gears, MM adjustables, subfames, lowering springs and nitto drags. Car made 460rwhp and 386 tq. on a very conservative tune. My buddy has an 03 cobra w/ a 2.76 upper pulley, JLT intake, tune, high flow x-pipe w/ magnaflows, stock gears. His car also made 460rwhp w/ 460 tq. Now I know he made more tq. than me, but my car is also like 250lbs lighter. He has the 6 speed and I have the 5 speed w/ 4.30 gears. Obviously on the highway he would get me, how about from a dig? Or a 30mph roll? I dont get the best traction, but my car is an absolute animal from rolls! Let me know, thanks.Silver 2001 Cobra, 33k miles, Procharger D1SC (13psi), 3 core intercooler, Big Red BOV, Anderson Power Pipe, 60lb fuel injectors, PMAS MAF, 03-04 Cobra fuel tank, 4.30 gears, MM FLSFC's, UPR off-road x-pipe, Magnaflow cat-back, UPR short throw shifter w/ FR500 shift knob, 03 Cobra 10th anniversary wheels, Nitto NT555R Drag radials w/ 1" wheel spacers, Hawk slotted rotors and pads, H&R lowering springs, MM caster/camber plates, 20% window tint, Luminics bulbs, Mike Dez tuned. 460rwhp, 386 ft./lbs.
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12-08-2010, 02:29 PM #2
Whoever engages the hyperdrive first will win.2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5spd w/ IUP
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12-08-2010, 02:50 PM #3
lol. yeah i figured it will be pretty close.
12-08-2010, 02:53 PM #4
With the weight difference you should pull him. What speed are you topping out 4th with the 4.30s?2006 Mustang GT
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12-08-2010, 02:55 PM #5
hes got more torque but with the weight difference should be drivers race
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12-08-2010, 03:03 PM #6
with the 4.30's, im doin about 125 at the top of fourth.
12-08-2010, 03:03 PM #7
From a dig or a 10-20mph roll you will should be able to get him. But in the end I think it'll be drivers race.. tell him 10-20 to the top of fourth for you and see what happens.98 Cobra - AED Built Motor - Foxlake Racing - Accufab Racing - FAST XFI/XIM - Griggs Racing - Vortech - Kooks - Weldon - T56 Magnum - Built Rear End - HRE's - Baer - C&R - E-85
12-08-2010, 03:04 PM #8
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my cousin in indiana has a s10 with a 350 in it, that sumbitch will burn the tires off when it hits second, he might race you
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12-08-2010, 03:21 PM #10
lol. yeah a 20mph roll to the top of fourth. I have Nitto NT555R Drag radials w/ lowering springs and subframe conectors, but I would have to totally ride the clutch put of the launch and/or just feather it until i get traction.
12-08-2010, 03:25 PM #11
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12-08-2010, 03:31 PM #12
hahahaha, mullet-e!!! thats great!
12-08-2010, 03:41 PM #13member #3143
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12-08-2010, 04:35 PM #14
CobraDan, have you stepped outside recently? It's like friggen 20 degrees outside brother! You trying to freeze those snakes or what? Put 'em away until the spring when it's warm out again...tires aren't gonna hook worth sh*t.2004 Torch Red Cobra
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12-08-2010, 06:37 PM #15
lol, i know the weather sucks in Ma. Im drivin it till they salt the roads though. My drag radials absolutely blow in this weather, so Id have to do a roll. But this air is great for boost!
12-08-2010, 06:51 PM #16
12-08-2010, 07:06 PM #17
01 cobra 3400 lbs 03 cobra 3600 lbs, so ya there is 200 or so lbs difference somewhere. Dan i'd wait till warmer days. we are more than likely gonna get saltd friday anyway.03 dsg vert, steg stage 6, ported lower intake, throttle body, plenum, evenflow injectors, kb bap, jlt gen II ram air, upr o/r x, borla stingers, rxt, full tilt boogie irs, and all the other usual bolt ons.
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12-08-2010, 07:53 PM #18
you keep it in your powerband his torque will mean nothing. his torque qill help him till the first shift, IF... you dont start in your powerband. HP is HP. torque is good for off the line then nothing at all."There is nothing good you can say to me, that will make me feel any better about myself than i already do"
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12-08-2010, 07:56 PM #19
true, screw this salt! lol
12-08-2010, 09:28 PM #20
yeah ive decided that since it would be such a close race and that this guy is a good friend of mine, that we wont do it. Why beat up on a fellow Ford enthusiats anyway? lol. I'd rather go beat up on some srt-4's or some spec-v's. lol
12-08-2010, 10:05 PM #21
dont worry Dan, you'll have plenty of shances next summer. i think that 01 will surprise alot of people.
12-08-2010, 10:06 PM #22
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Gears and wt should put you over the top- why is your tq so low?99Z28 - Fully built- TSP 404 Stroker, blah blah blah.... 10.7 w/o NO2 SOLD
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12-08-2010, 11:21 PM #23
lol. yeah Matt I will have a lot of chances next summer, Vinny the Ginny
And a lot of these centrifugal blower cars don't make the torque of the roots cars. My car is also very conservatively tuned, 11.1 AFR and 12 degrees timing. That could be the answer.
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12-09-2010, 08:53 AM #24
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12-09-2010, 09:20 AM #25
Also I don't see the 03 getting traction either. I have nitto dr's and first gear is worthless at only 1/2-3/4 throttle.
I really think it's a drivers race. And weight cannot be compared by the factory specs as the OP has SFC's, a blower, and maybe some other things that add weight. But the 03 might have some added weight as well.
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