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    Did Ford sell vehicles to Nazi Germany during WWII

    I'm thinking this is a bunch of bogus BS, but I work with a guy who's one of these people that have all kinds of little facts and knowledge on many different topics, and he came up to me today and said that Ford sold vehicles to Nazi Germany during WWII because Henry Ford was a staunch antisemitic.

    Apparently Henry Ford was antisemitic, and he did get some award from Nazi German prior to WWII, but I can't find anything to back up that he sold vehicles to Germany during WWII.

    Anyone on here know anything about this?

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    A quick Google search led me to this article, an interesting read for sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator99 View Post
    A quick Google search led me to this article, an interesting read for sure.


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    Good find. I had been reading about Henry ford on Wikipedia.
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford]Henry Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    I went to the Holocaust museum last year and remember reading the BMW used concentration camp workers to build their cars. Doesn't have anything to do with what you're asking but I just found that interesting.

    I don't remember reading anything about Henry Ford while there.
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    Ford did plenty of interesting things. They had an entire "american" city built in the amazon.

    Fordlândia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This article mentions fordlandia and nazi Germany involvement. I love damninteresting!

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    Henry Ford did more than sale cars to hitler, his plants built weapons and tanks for him


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    Quote Originally Posted by fastboss View Post
    Henry Ford did more than sale cars to hitler, his plants built weapons and tanks for him


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    too bad your jebus phone doesn't know the difference between SELL and SALE
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    Ok so your saying that Germany bought stuff from Ford in the states. Then it magically made its way accross the Atlantic Ocean full of U boats, on a US flagged shipped and dropped them off at a German port...?

    Sorry if Im alittle skeptical about all of that. The actual logistics behind those articles would indicate otherwise. Im a history and war person. But even if this was said to take place prior to America entering the war on December 8, 1941. America couldnt sell anything to an Axis power since the British were our Allies and at war with Germany. Ford couldnt sell an Axis power anything because most companies were under DoD contracts during the war. If I recall correctly alot of those contracts will say that they cant sell or help a Foreign power during a time of war without the treat of treason.

    Edit: I read a few of the articles more in depth. It wasnt Henry Ford that sold and build stuff for the Germans. It was some of the companies that Ford owned in Europe before the war began. Their leadership, one of which was French, is whom sold the Germans anything. Not Ford himself.

    This was in Nazi occupied Europe though and they probably had to do something for the Germans since the plant was covered/surrounded with Germans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double"O" View Post
    too bad your jebus phone doesn't know the difference between SELL and SALE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironhand View Post
    Ok so your saying that Germany bought stuff from Ford in the states. Then it magically made its way accross the Atlantic Ocean full of U boats, on a US flagged shipped and dropped them off at a German port...?

    Sorry if Im alittle skeptical about all of that. The actual logistics behind those articles would indicate otherwise. Im a history and war person. But even if this was said to take place prior to America entering the war on December 8, 1941. America couldnt sell anything to an Axis power since the British were our Allies and at war with Germany. Ford couldnt sell an Axis power anything because most companies were under DoD contracts during the war. If I recall correctly alot of those contracts will say that they cant sell or help a Foreign power during a time of war without the treat of treason.
    No, no I'm asking. History was my best subject also, and I've never heard anything like this. I agree it would of been hard for the U.S to send stuff to germany after 1939, but according to Instigator99's link Ford was profiting from both sides during WWII, and that Ford in Europe was selling to Nazi Germany.

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    IBM built the statistical machine(Punch Card) that was used for picking jews, etc.

    IBM and the holocaust is a great read if anyone is interested in WW2 history/Tech/Business development history.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jroc View Post
    No, no I'm asking. History was my best subject also, and I've never heard anything like this. I agree it would of been hard for the U.S to send stuff to germany after 1939, but according to Instigator99's link Ford was profiting from both sides during WWII, and that Ford in Europe was selling to Nazi Germany.
    Read the edit.

    It wasnt Ford making the money. It was their plants in occupied counties operated by the French, etc, that was selling stuff.

    However, the lack of evidence is almost convient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayo5 View Post
    IBM built the statistical machine(Punch Card) that was used for picking jews, etc.

    IBM and the holocaust is a great read if anyone is interested in WW2 history/Tech/Business development history.


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    Ford had entire automotive plants in Germany before and during the war. Henry Ford was a huge supporter of Germany and the Nazi party; This was never a secret really. I believe at one point he published some kind of "booklet" about Nazi Germany.

    It's very easy to point blame at an American company for doing business with the Axis during WWII. But the truth is more like once the war started, American companies lost control of their foreign operations. Americans couldn't exactly travel to Germany and France during the war, and in most cases American companies (and all companies really) were taken over by the Nazis and run by them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evan5469 View Post
    I went to the Holocaust museum last year and remember reading the BMW used concentration camp workers to build their cars. Doesn't have anything to do with what you're asking but I just found that interesting.

    I don't remember reading anything about Henry Ford while there.
    The Japanese did the same - used POWs to build airplanes. This included Suburu and Mitsubishi.

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    Some interesting reading in this thread. Never heard of any of this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
    Ford had entire automotive plants in Germany before and during the war. Henry Ford was a huge supporter of Germany and the Nazi party; This was never a secret really. I believe at one point he published some kind of "booklet" about Nazi Germany.

    It's very easy to point blame at an American company for doing business with the Axis during WWII. But the truth is more like once the war started, American companies lost control of their foreign operations. Americans couldn't exactly travel to Germany and France during the war, and in most cases American companies (and all companies really) were taken over by the Nazis and run by them.

    The Japanese did the same - used POWs to build airplanes. This included Suburu and Mitsubishi.
    This is a much more likely scenario IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayo5 View Post
    IBM built the statistical machine(Punch Card) that was used for picking jews, etc.

    IBM and the holocaust is a great read if anyone is interested in WW2 history/Tech/Business development history.


    Amazon.com: IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation (9780375419331): Edwin Black: Books
    That was a great read.. I had to read it in a class in highschool.. holocaust.. haha
    Its all true too.. I live within 5 mins of the first I.b.m. and live in a house built for the company back in the early 20th century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhand View Post
    ok so your saying that germany bought stuff from ford in the states. Then it magically made its way accross the atlantic ocean full of u boats, on a us flagged shipped and dropped them off at a german port...?

    Sorry if im alittle skeptical about all of that. The actual logistics behind those articles would indicate otherwise. Im a history and war person. But even if this was said to take place prior to america entering the war on december 8, 1941. America couldnt sell anything to an axis power since the british were our allies and at war with germany. Ford couldnt sell an axis power anything because most companies were under dod contracts during the war. If i recall correctly alot of those contracts will say that they cant sell or help a foreign power during a time of war without the treat of treason.

    Edit: I read a few of the articles more in depth. It wasnt henry ford that sold and build stuff for the germans. It was some of the companies that ford owned in europe before the war began. Their leadership, one of which was french, is whom sold the germans anything. Not ford himself.

    This was in nazi occupied europe though and they probably had to do something for the germans since the plant was covered/surrounded with germans.
    THIS!

    Speaking of Nazi germany I have a picture from the BMW or MB museum and the 1940s part of the wall is just blank.
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    This is pretty interesting. I've never heard anything about this. Ford grew up with my family and ended up marrying my great, great aunt so we are pretty big on family history and our backgrounds. All the information and documents we have from ford in our family, none of this has never surfaced before. Looks like I need to do a little more digging into our background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
    Ford had entire automotive plants in Germany before and during the war. Henry Ford was a huge supporter of Germany and the Nazi party; This was never a secret really. I believe at one point he published some kind of "booklet" about Nazi Germany.

    It's very easy to point blame at an American company for doing business with the Axis during WWII. But the truth is more like once the war started, American companies lost control of their foreign operations. Americans couldn't exactly travel to Germany and France during the war, and in most cases American companies (and all companies really) were taken over by the Nazis and run by them.



    The Japanese did the same - used POWs to build airplanes. This included Suburu and Mitsubishi.
    Good info.

    Yeah Henry Ford wrote a 4 series volume of books called "The International Jew".

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew]The International Jew - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


    From my understand Hitler actually studied, and took much from it in helping him write "Mein Kampf".


    IDK I can't figure out why people just want to hate Jews. They're just another group of people. That's kind of like hating someone because they are American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jroc View Post
    I'm thinking this is a bunch of bogus BS, but I work with a guy who's one of these people that have all kinds of little facts and knowledge on many different topics, and he came up to me today and said that Ford sold vehicles to Nazi Germany during WWII because Henry Ford was a staunch antisemitic.

    Apparently Henry Ford was antisemitic, and he did get some award from Nazi German prior to WWII, but I can't find anything to back up that he sold vehicles to Germany during WWII.

    Anyone on here know anything about this?
    Ofrcourse its true..he was a known nazi simpathizer/anti semite. FORD made jeeps for Germany. USA has a long history of doing business with the "enemy". Prescott Bush (#41's pappy) was the account manager @ Brown Brother's Harriman for I.G. Farben who built Auschwitz.

    This is all common knowledge to those who have an attention span long enough to pull themselves away from Dancing with the Bachelors or Jersey Whore's to google/YouTube it. Or godforbid...actually read a book.

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    Its common knowledge that Henry Ford was racist and a Nazi supporter. You guys didn't know this?

    You don't get the highest Nazi award possible for nothing. And if im not mistaken ford plants were building german tanks/jeeps as well.

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