Incase anyone hasn't seen/heard about there failures yet i definately think you should. Because if you havent (like me before this happend) it could end up costing you THOUSANDS with little to now help from Ford. This is my post, reposted from Modular Fords where the thread for the first failure occured.
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116515
Ya ive been in contact with steve and so far hes the only person i've delt with that has been the least bit of help.
From the ford racing tech line i've been dealing with Marty. Who has been of very little help along with the rest of Ford MotorCo.
My aluminator was purchased on August 14th, recieved abotu 3 days later and the install began alittle while after.
The motor was cranked afew days ago, ran great, was run approx. 20min total and oil was seen comming out of the bottom of the car. Car was shut off and found that the crank pulley had eaten a whole in the front cover much like the OP.
This is what we found.....
The crank pulley had worn a whole completely through the cover in less then 20min or total run time
I contacted ford immedtiately who wanted me to send pics, so i sent them the above pics along with the pics of the OP. They stated this in a reply email...
"James we are looking into the issue you are having with the pulley contacting the timing chain cover. We hope to have a fix early next week. If you have any questions please e-mail.
Thanks, Marty on the techline"
After afew days i called again at which point i was told, along with steve that this was one of 3 total motors that have appeared with this issue, all of these motors where assembled at roughly the same time/place ect and all experianced the same problem.
Long story short and only after some constant calling did i get offered ANYTHING. I was given 3 (all shitty btw) options on how to fix my problem
1) We'll give you 850 bucks, you have a shop take the motor apart, which remember this motor was already in the car and running, so they would have to drop the suspension, the oil pan, remove the valve cover, front tensioners ect, remove the front cover, bias the crank forward, and put it all back together.....oh and the best part, TIG WELD THE FRONT COVER WHOLE SHUT. Yes thats exactly what they said, have them tig weld it shut.
2) We'll give you 600 bucks, some basic parts like the TTY bolts, have the shop do all of the above, and we'll give you a new timing cover so they dont have to weld it.
3) Have the entire motor pulled, send it back to us, we'll fix it, and send it back so you can have it reinstalled but won't cover ANYTHING regarding the pulling of the motor (which i've already paid for once because the car was all but done when it failed), so i've got to pay TWICE to have the motor R&R'd because of a complete assembly error that they OPENLY admit too on thier part.
Best thing is, when i asked "Well since the motor is being opened up, by a shop that you guys know nothing about, will i still have my warranty?" The reply i got from Marty was, "As long as them fixing the motor dosen't cause the failure", uugghhh...So basically let's really read into that. So as long as nothing involving the crank, bearings ect don't fail, we'll cover it. So the only warrenty i'll have left will be that of the heads.
For 6100 bucks sorry but thats complete bullshit when they go around the internet stating how is "precision assembled to make no room for human error" and the damn thing fails in 20minutes and now they want a shop to fix it, and not offer me even half of what it would take to fix it. Yeah i completely realize that this thing has a "parts" only warranty, but are you kidding me? No other business thats worth half a damn would still be open if they did work like this.
You think if someone like Boss 330, ProLine, ModularPerformance, ect did this kinda business they would still be going strong? No. I would put money that if any of the above builders motors would have failed in 20min, they would have had no questions to return it and make everything right. Hell had the shop that installed this motor actually built it, they already told me that they would have to completely eat EVERYTHING and just suck it up.
Ford hasn't offered me ANYTHING worth a damn, and thier warranty isn't worth the paper that it's written on and thier supposed "warranty tech line" is a joke. Once i get this issue worked out you can bet i won't buy another damn thing from this POS. And im gonna make a point to drag this peice of shit motor through the mud all over the internet. Because i'm getting screwed out of 3000 for R&R X2 I don't want anyone else to have to go through the same. I purchased a motor that was supposed to give me NO problems, that cost twice what a shortblock would have, for it to fail in 20min.
THANKS FORD
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116515
Ya ive been in contact with steve and so far hes the only person i've delt with that has been the least bit of help.
From the ford racing tech line i've been dealing with Marty. Who has been of very little help along with the rest of Ford MotorCo.
My aluminator was purchased on August 14th, recieved abotu 3 days later and the install began alittle while after.
The motor was cranked afew days ago, ran great, was run approx. 20min total and oil was seen comming out of the bottom of the car. Car was shut off and found that the crank pulley had eaten a whole in the front cover much like the OP.
This is what we found.....
The crank pulley had worn a whole completely through the cover in less then 20min or total run time
I contacted ford immedtiately who wanted me to send pics, so i sent them the above pics along with the pics of the OP. They stated this in a reply email...
"James we are looking into the issue you are having with the pulley contacting the timing chain cover. We hope to have a fix early next week. If you have any questions please e-mail.
Thanks, Marty on the techline"
After afew days i called again at which point i was told, along with steve that this was one of 3 total motors that have appeared with this issue, all of these motors where assembled at roughly the same time/place ect and all experianced the same problem.
Long story short and only after some constant calling did i get offered ANYTHING. I was given 3 (all shitty btw) options on how to fix my problem
1) We'll give you 850 bucks, you have a shop take the motor apart, which remember this motor was already in the car and running, so they would have to drop the suspension, the oil pan, remove the valve cover, front tensioners ect, remove the front cover, bias the crank forward, and put it all back together.....oh and the best part, TIG WELD THE FRONT COVER WHOLE SHUT. Yes thats exactly what they said, have them tig weld it shut.
2) We'll give you 600 bucks, some basic parts like the TTY bolts, have the shop do all of the above, and we'll give you a new timing cover so they dont have to weld it.
3) Have the entire motor pulled, send it back to us, we'll fix it, and send it back so you can have it reinstalled but won't cover ANYTHING regarding the pulling of the motor (which i've already paid for once because the car was all but done when it failed), so i've got to pay TWICE to have the motor R&R'd because of a complete assembly error that they OPENLY admit too on thier part.
Best thing is, when i asked "Well since the motor is being opened up, by a shop that you guys know nothing about, will i still have my warranty?" The reply i got from Marty was, "As long as them fixing the motor dosen't cause the failure", uugghhh...So basically let's really read into that. So as long as nothing involving the crank, bearings ect don't fail, we'll cover it. So the only warrenty i'll have left will be that of the heads.
For 6100 bucks sorry but thats complete bullshit when they go around the internet stating how is "precision assembled to make no room for human error" and the damn thing fails in 20minutes and now they want a shop to fix it, and not offer me even half of what it would take to fix it. Yeah i completely realize that this thing has a "parts" only warranty, but are you kidding me? No other business thats worth half a damn would still be open if they did work like this.
You think if someone like Boss 330, ProLine, ModularPerformance, ect did this kinda business they would still be going strong? No. I would put money that if any of the above builders motors would have failed in 20min, they would have had no questions to return it and make everything right. Hell had the shop that installed this motor actually built it, they already told me that they would have to completely eat EVERYTHING and just suck it up.
Ford hasn't offered me ANYTHING worth a damn, and thier warranty isn't worth the paper that it's written on and thier supposed "warranty tech line" is a joke. Once i get this issue worked out you can bet i won't buy another damn thing from this POS. And im gonna make a point to drag this peice of shit motor through the mud all over the internet. Because i'm getting screwed out of 3000 for R&R X2 I don't want anyone else to have to go through the same. I purchased a motor that was supposed to give me NO problems, that cost twice what a shortblock would have, for it to fail in 20min.
THANKS FORD
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