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Blower Question...

What are some good blowers that I should seek to purchase under these premises:
1. I want to run like 8-10 pounds now as my internals are stock, and I want to avoid shattering a rod by throwing massive boost at my engine.
2. I want to have a blower with the capabilities of making far more than 8-10 pounds of boost down the road if/when I choose to/am forced to rebuild my motor with some forged internals.

I have never owned a boosted car, so I know little about blowers. I have only picked up some knowledge by reading threads on here, and from hanging out with my friend with a 2.6 KB '03.
How many pounds of boost is the D1SC capable of producing? Also, does the D1 differ from the D1SC by the sole fact that it is not self-contained? Can someone please give me a quick run through of the lineups of Vortechs, Prochargers, and whatever else would fit on my car? (models and their capabilities and how they differ from one another.)
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I have the same dilema (stock internals) and same goals. After alot of research, I went with a Paxton NOVI 2000. It's a awesome blower that's capable of supporting more than enough power for the street.
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I have the same dilema (stock internals) and same goals. After alot of research, I went with a Paxton NOVI 2000.
If you ever do a rebuild, how many pounds will your Paxton put out?
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If you ever do a rebuild, how many pounds will your Paxton put out?
With a 3.8 pulley and AFM power pipe it puts out 9 psi. Not sure what your question is regarding a rebuild. I bought the supercharger new from Paxton.

I understand the question...there are people with NOVIs running 20+psi at over 700RWHP. My goal is 18psi once the engine is fully built.

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Does the Paxton have a nice whine to it at idle?
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8 - 10 pounds on a stock engine won't likely last long. Upgrades for starter should include
-bigger injectors & fuel pump
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Does the Paxton have a nice whine to it at idle?
Yes, and it's not overbearing like some Vortechs/Prochargers that I've heard. The Paxtons come with helicut gears which minimizes the whine. In my opinion it's a perfect whine, not loud enough to make people think something is wrong with the car, but enough for people to know something is under neath the hood.

And when you get on the gas hard, it sounds like a 747 about to take off.

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8 - 10 pounds on a stock engine won't likely last long. Upgrades for starter should include
-bigger injectors & fuel pump
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-inter/after cooler
I understand that the upgrades stated above are a must (fuel upgrade and mass air)...but are you saying that 8-10 lbs is not safe on my stock rods, because I thought that 8-10 lbs is common on a stock lower end? I have always heard that anything OVER 450 RWHP, however, would make it a "ticking time bomb" for sure.
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With a 3.8 pulley and AFM power pipe it puts out 9 psi. Not sure what your question is regarding a rebuild. I bought the supercharger new from Paxton.

I understand the question...there are people with NOVIs running 20+psi at over 700RWHP. My goal is 18psi once the engine is fully built.
It sounds like a Paxton would fit both my current plans as well as future dreams as well...how much did your blower run you? Did you pick it up new or used?
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I understand that the upgrades stated above are a must (fuel upgrade and mass air)...but are you saying that 8-10 lbs is not safe on my stock rods, because I thought that 8-10 lbs is common on a stock lower end? I have always heard that anything OVER 450 RWHP, however, would make it a "ticking time bomb" for sure.
I am making 400 rwhp and was only around four pounds of boost on a hot day. It has made 6 pounds in cooler weather with the stock pulley. My tuner said he could get me more hp with a smaller pulley = more boost but would likely have a inspection window in the side of the block.
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It sounds like a Paxton would fit both my current plans as well as future dreams as well...how much did your blower run you? Did you pick it up new or used?
I bought the blower new from Paxton. Just a word of advice, you'll save a ton of money if you buy from these guys...

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Buy the mounting kit and head unit separately, for some funny reason it's much cheaper that way...

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D1. Comes with intercooler in the kit.

Try these guy's also....http://www.superchargers4less.com/

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I understand that the upgrades stated above are a must (fuel upgrade and mass air)...but are you saying that 8-10 lbs is not safe on my stock rods, because I thought that 8-10 lbs is common on a stock lower end? I have always heard that anything OVER 450 RWHP, however, would make it a "ticking time bomb" for sure.
8-10 on an sn95 cobra is not a problem at all with a good tune.
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I understand that the upgrades stated above are a must (fuel upgrade and mass air)...but are you saying that 8-10 lbs is not safe on my stock rods, because I thought that 8-10 lbs is common on a stock lower end? I have always heard that anything OVER 450 RWHP, however, would make it a "ticking time bomb" for sure.
It's all in the tune. Just make sure you go with 60lb injectors, Aviator pump, SCT tuner, and a very good tuner in your area. My tuner was very conservative on my tune, and I'm making 9 psi. I would also delete the IMRCs while you're changing the injectors. My IMRCs were acting up during the dyno tuning, killing some power in the 5,000-5,800 RPM range. I REALLY wish I would have deleted them before i got it tuned. Too late now for me.

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I am making 400 rwhp and was only around four pounds of boost on a hot day. It has made 6 pounds in cooler weather with the stock pulley. My tuner said he could get me more hp with a smaller pulley = more boost but would likely have a inspection window in the side of the block.
4 lbs and 400 rwhp would be great. I would be very happy with that. lol at an "inspection window." I don't want that modification!
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Buy the mounting kit and head unit separately, for some funny reason it's much cheaper that way...
Thanks, I'll have to check them out.
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8-10 on an sn95 cobra is not a problem at all with a good tune.
What is the typical HP seen with 8-10 pounds?
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It's all in the tune. Just make sure you go with 60lb injectors, Aviator pump, SCT tuner, and a very good tuner in your area. My tuner was very conservative on my tune, and I'm making 9 psi. I would also delete the IMRCs while you're changing the injectors. My IMRCs were acting up during the dyno tuning, killing some power in the 5,000-5,800 RPM range. I REALLY wish I would have deleted them before i got it tuned. Too late now for me.
My friend recommends Akron HP. They tuned his after he KB'd it. This same guy also mentioned that SVT Fucus fuel pumps would suffice well on my car if I blow her...???
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That would be good enough for me for a while...until I got too used to it.
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That would be good enough for me for a while...until I got too used to it.
which will be about the 3rd time you drive it with 450
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Does the Paxton have a nice whine to it at idle?
it's insane. Sounds sick and will scare off most races.

here's my old vid below

my old Novi 2000 set up made 378 RWHP on my 2000 GT with 9-10 PSI with the Paxton intercooler. I built my motor and the Novi pushed 708 RWHP on race fuel, and 670 RWHP on pump gas. All that being said if I were you I'd try to get a twin screw blower. They are SOOOOOO much more fun. Night and day differences. Both set up's buried my 20 PSI boost gauge easily.

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Yeah but for some damn reason Kenne Bell does not include a intercooler for there 96-98 Cobra kit............
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which will be about the 3rd time you drive it with 450
I'd have fun for a while setting up from pretty much bone stock.
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it's insane. Sounds sick and will scare off most races.

here's my old vid below

my old Novi 2000 set up made 378 RWHP on my 2000 GT with 9-10 PSI with the Paxton intercooler. I built my motor and the Novi pushed 708 RWHP on race fuel, and 670 RWHP on pump gas. All that being said if I were you I'd try to get a twin screw blower. They are SOOOOOO much more fun. Night and day differences. Both set up's buried my 20 PSI boost gauge easily.
twin screwed cars feel scary compared to centrifugals.
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I thought you were trying to sell it? Keep it and ask about a procharger they are self contained no drilling holes in pan so easy to pull off it you need to sell later some say they leak some say they don't but they have an intercooler which is important for our cars too. Good luck.
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I thought you were trying to sell it? Keep it and ask about a procharger they are self contained no drilling holes in pan so easy to pull off it you need to sell later some say they leak some say they don't but they have an intercooler which is important for our cars too. Good luck.
If I sell it...then I sell it. If I blow it first...then I will keep it for a while. Idk what I wanna do yet...whatever happens happens.
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I thought you were trying to sell it? Keep it and ask about a procharger they are self contained no drilling holes in pan so easy to pull off it you need to sell later some say they leak some say they don't but they have an intercooler which is important for our cars too. Good luck.
drilling a hole in the oil pan is no big deal for other types of centri blowers plus you wont have to worry about the oil in the blower as long as you keep up with engine oil level and regular oil changes on the engine.
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