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Old 11-05-2009, 10:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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how do i make power with my 4v?

how do i make close to 400 rwhp out of a 97 teksid block motor.
wat bolts ons work and dont?
any tips or porting that needs to be done?
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Can't be done with a stock shortblock n/a. A high comp. bb/stroker might get you close. You need boost for 400rw.
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If you want 400rwhp n/a you are going to have to rebuild the engine. You can get close with out rebuilding the shortblock but you will need ported heads, cams, and a shortrunner intake alon with all the bolt ons. Thing is when swapping heads and cams you need to remove the engine so at that point you might as well rebuild the engine sine its going to be out. The easy way is forced induction. Bolt on a blower and supporting mods, get a tune and your good to go.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thing is when swapping heads and cams you need to remove the engine.
No, you don't.

It is much easier if you do, though.
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No idea why so many people are hard pressed to stay N/A, but still want huge power. Its really easy to slap a blower on the stock motor and make 450whp and drive the thing every day. A 400whp n/a build will be expensive and you probably won't want to drive it all the time.
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No idea why so many people are hard pressed to stay N/A, but still want huge power. Its really easy to slap a blower on the stock motor and make 450whp and drive the thing every day. A 400whp n/a build will be expensive and you probably won't want to drive it all the time.
I love the sound of my cams and being different than every other car.

I didn't want to be like every other sn95 Cobra..and just be bolt on and gears with a centri-blower...

its not just a numbers game for me, 450rwhp is nice and all..but I'd rather have my setup than that to be honest. N/A or Whipple for me.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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simple na is bad ass... i rather make 400na then 450 with a blower.. oh and na will still be faster lol
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what are your goals for your car? that will really help people give you a direction in which can be both powerful and cost benificial while remaining fun.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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You can get 380 with the stock shortblock, ported heads, custom cams, short runner intake, long tubes, IMRC deletes, TB, 90mm maf, 30lb injectors and a small diameter dampener.

To get 400rwhp I recommend a stroker along with the mods I listed above.

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No, you don't.

It is much easier if you do, though.
Ok well technically you can do the swap while its still in the car but every shop I've talked to says they pull the engine. And if you do it yourself you will be better off pulling it as well.
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You can get 380 with the stock shortblock, ported heads, custom cams, short runner intake, long tubes, IMRC deletes, TB, 90mm maf, 30lb injectors and a small diameter dampener.

To get 400rwhp I recommend a stroker along with the mods I listed above.

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thanks for the info todd. now i know what i need to get where i want to be
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well my plans for the car is to have a fun street car, be able to drive it 2 class( still in college) and be able to dip in the 12's..

heres wat i got so far...

long tube headers, x pipe, magnaflow magnapacks cat back...
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and was gonna port the intake and get a bigger throttle body...

oh and my power adder of choice is nitrous im thinking 125 shot..

so with this i should be well into the 400rwhp range correct?

and alos i heard you can cut the runners on the intake and get more power is this true...?
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save your money and dont get the throttle body.

Nitrous is a cheap way to get power, but when the bottle is empty the car is much slower.

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the throttle body is not needed, and even with the 125 shot I still feel like youi might just hit around 400 more likely less
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these motors blow!!! lmao should have stuck with my head cammed sn95 it made 400 rwhp..

so basically i need camms, head work and an intake. with a built motor to make any power?
or just slap a s-trim around 14lbs and itll put down 400rwhp....

im just gonna stay bolt on and nitrous and be slow.... well see wat the car puts down when ken @ modular depot tunes it in a couple weeks..

will these cars run 12? lmao
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Honestly, put a tire on the car and drive it hard and you could get into the 12's as the it sits right now without doing anything to it.
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these motors blow!!! lmao should have stuck with my head cammed sn95 it made 400 rwhp..

A H/C/I 5.0 sn95 making 400rwhp? I would love to see that

so basically i need camms, head work and an intake. with a built motor to make any power?
or just slap a s-trim around 14lbs and itll put down 400rwhp....

A Strim on 14# will make more than 500rwhp. I'm making 400rwhp with 8# and only 2 degree of timing!

im just gonna stay bolt on and nitrous and be slow.... well see wat the car puts down when ken @ modular depot tunes it in a couple weeks..

will these cars run 12? lmao
You sound like a LS owner coming in here to dis our cars.

And there is a guy on here that posted the other day who ran high 12's with minimal bolt ons and STREET TIRES!

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these motors blow!!! lmao should have stuck with my head cammed sn95 it made 400 rwhp..

so basically i need camms, head work and an intake. with a built motor to make any power?
or just slap a s-trim around 14lbs and itll put down 400rwhp....

im just gonna stay bolt on and nitrous and be slow.... well see wat the car puts down when ken @ modular depot tunes it in a couple weeks..

will these cars run 12? lmao
you can get 12s with a set of gears as sticky tires. Try that with a pushrod SN95.

You do not need a built motor to make power. I know people that have gone 10s with stock shortblocks.
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these motors blow!!! lmao should have stuck with my head cammed sn95 it made 400 rwhp..
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You can get 380 with the stock shortblock, ported heads, custom cams, short runner intake, long tubes, IMRC deletes, TB, 90mm maf, 30lb injectors and a small diameter dampener.

To get 400rwhp I recommend a stroker along with the mods I listed above.

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I stand corrected. I was wrong saying that boost is needed for 400rw but doing it with the stock shortblock is not possible

Any info on the stock shortblocks going 10's? N/A?

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I stand corrected. I was wrong saying that boost is needed for 400rw but doing it with the stock shortblock is not possible

Any info on the stock shortblocks going 10's? N/A?
I alo know someone that made 410rwhp with a stock shortblock.

The motor that went 10s n/a had a short runner, ported Bs, comp 106500s, LTs, EWP, small diameter dampener and the car weighed 2900lbs.
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I alo know someone that made 410rwhp with a stock shortblock.

The motor that went 10s n/a had a short runner, ported Bs, comp 106500s, LTs, EWP, small diameter dampener and the car weighed 2900lbs.
That must be Jim you're referring to that went 10's.

410rwhp with a stock shortblock, what was the setup?
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I alo know someone that made 410rwhp with a stock shortblock.

The motor that went 10s n/a had a short runner, ported Bs, comp 106500s, LTs, EWP, small diameter dampener and the car weighed 2900lbs.
how did he get his weight down so much?
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