That makes sense. About the same weight as a new Z06, about the same rwhp too (~450ish), + the DRs. Excellent drivers have gone low 11's high 10's in a C6 Z06...
we don't have a dynosheet of that car, I am taking their words "390rwhp to 400rwhp and around 390rwtq" and another thing is, I just listed the mods of that c5 vette's above. check them out and tell me what would he put down?
about his driving skills, I bet he can drive better than you. he powershifts all gears with his stock shifter on his vette and hits them pretty damn good. i know who is good who is a bad driver when i ride with them and this dude is not a bad driver!
It doesnt matter how good of a driver you think he is or isnt or if you think hes a better driver then me.... Oh yea, I have the stock shifter in my Z06 and am able to powershift every gear too, wooopidy doooo.
I also had a 99 SS 6-spd with lid/longtubes/cutouts/stock catback/100shot that I was able to run bottom 11's all day in it.... Full weight, 15lb bottle, 12bolt spool rear, 3.73 gears.... Weighed 36xx with me in it. Only put down 44xrwhp at the time.
I also have a 05 Srt4 that with just a wga that I was able to get 13.3s in that only dynoed 210fwhp.... Weighed 316xlbs with me in.
Im pretty sure I know how to row thru the gears.
The facts are that a car with more lbs per hp isnt going to beat the other car with less lbs per hp.... FACTS.
That makes sense. About the same weight as a new Z06, about the same rwhp too (~450ish), + the DRs. Excellent drivers have gone low 11's high 10's in a C6 Z06...
Fastest C6 Z06 on street tires is 10.98@128.... bone stock.
Fastest C6 Z06 on drag radials is 10.83@130.... bone stock.
It doesnt matter how good of a driver you think he is or isnt or if you think hes a better driver then me.... Oh yea, I have the stock shifter in my Z06 and am able to powershift every gear too, wooopidy doooo.
I also had a 99 SS 6-spd with lid/longtubes/cutouts/stock catback/100shot that I was able to run bottom 11's all day in it.... Full weight, 15lb bottle, 12bolt spool rear, 3.73 gears.... Weighed 36xx with me in it. Only put down 44xrwhp at the time.
I also have a 05 Srt4 that with just a wga that I was able to get 13.3s in that only dynoed 210fwhp.... Weighed 316xlbs with me in.
Im pretty sure I know how to row thru the gears.
The facts are that a car with more lbs per hp isnt going to beat the other car with less lbs per hp.... FACTS.
your bench racing doesn't always work on the streets bro. FYI. I was dead even from a 40mph roll against a 530rwhp 02 vortech blown GT with my heavier 455rwhp cobra untill 140mph. checkout chicagolandmustang.com and his username is UWISHU1 and he will tell you how it was.
avarage hp per RPM is where all the secret. and cobras makes great avarage HP per RPM.
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2003 Zinc Yellow Cobra (SOLD)
455rwhp - 478rwtq
Upper only, NO port, NO spray, Full weight, Stock IRS
11.34@121.92mph w/ 1.68 60' - 1/8 mile 7.30@97mph
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it wasn't a z06. it was a cammed LS1 c5 vette. he is my buddy, we live in the same neighborhood and cruise together all the time. he has elec. waterpump, LS2 intake, z06 catback, cold air intake, crank pulley, one of those silent cams, tune. (no headers and i know if he had headers i would be in trouble) and he gets beat by me everytime we race. he is not on this site and i can call him to register and talk about it but it won't make a difference since we don't have a video and this tool will still say "IN MY EXPERIENCE...."
and yeah, cobra won't put a bus on a stock Z but it will put a decent 2 cars. I have done it and track numbers just don't lie. compare them. but hey, wait a minute! damn it! I forgot about aerodynamics...
I can't believe you're stupid enough to believe that aerodynamics doesn't make a difference.
So you say you beat a cammed LS1 C5......big f****** deal. I'm not sure if you know this but the Z06 has different gearing, lighter, different heads and cam, and suspension. It idiots like your self that make Cobra guys look bad.
If you really don't think it's a drivers race between a pullied Cobra and stock C5 Z06 then you're are a complete idiot.
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I can't believe you're stupid enough to believe that aerodynamics doesn't make a difference.
So you say you beat a cammed LS1 C5......big f****** deal. I'm not sure if you know this but the Z06 has different gearing, lighter, different heads and cam, and suspension. It idiots like your self that make Cobra guys look bad.
If you really don't think it's a drivers race between a pullied Cobra and stock C5 Z06 then you're are a complete idiot.
your butt hurt is getting bigger and bigger:
1- i beat a cammed _+ supporting mods LS1 c5 vette and post to show that his advantage on aerodynamics didnt do anything cuz i pulled on him untill 140mph. and c5 vette has the same body style as c5 z06.
2- aerodynamics does make difference mr. idiot, but not the way you think
3- no i don't think a pullied cobra > stock c5 Z06, I KNOW FOR FACT IT IS. i have done it and you will see it as well. and BTW, not just me, whole thread disagrees with your sorry ass!
1- i beat a cammed _+ supporting mods LS1 c5 vette and post to show that his advantage on aerodynamics didnt do anything cuz i pulled on him untill 140mph. and c5 vette has the same body style as c5 z06.
2- aerodynamics does make difference mr. idiot, but not the way you think
3- no i don't think a pullied cobra > stock c5 Z06, I KNOW FOR FACT IT IS. i have done it and you will see it as well. and BTW, not just me, whole thread disagrees with your sorry ass!
1- i beat a cammed _+ supporting mods LS1 c5 vette and post to show that his advantage on aerodynamics didnt do anything cuz i pulled on him untill 140mph. and c5 vette has the same body style as c5 z06.
2- aerodynamics does make difference mr. idiot, but not the way you think
3- no i don't think a pullied cobra > stock c5 Z06, I KNOW FOR FACT IT IS. i have done it and you will see it as well. and BTW, not just me, whole thread disagrees with your sorry ass!
Like I said you friends C5 is different than a Z06 so please don't compare the two.
Please explain how aerodynamics works since you know so much about it.
Let's try and keep this civil guys, I really think he just wants to find out how his car will do.
So what's up? No Cobras around Austin, TX to run this guy? Somebody cross-post this thread somewhere so he can get some runs in.
Also, I could post up videos of stock Z06s taking down pullied/minor bolt-on Cobras as well JD. What's the point? You're on an SVT Forum. They have their jaded sunglasses on, and so do we
Talking up modded Cobras versus STOCK Z06's lol. Classic. You guys going to brag about beating a kid in a wheelchair next???
your bench racing doesn't always work on the streets bro. FYI. I was dead even from a 40mph roll against a 530rwhp 02 vortech blown GT with my heavier 455rwhp cobra untill 140mph. checkout chicagolandmustang.com and his username is UWISHU1 and he will tell you how it was.
avarage hp per RPM is where all the secret. and cobras makes great avarage HP per RPM.
Thats not bench racing in any aspect.... Its actual FACTS. And they work everytime. No magazine did this comparision.... My calculator did. And if youre trying to talk about power under the curve, a 5.7V8 is gonna have more power under the curve then your 4.6V8. More then a whole liter more motor pushing the car....
on the streets anything can happen. I have seen many people who told me that i just have an intake and we found out it had a kit. looks like you are new to streetfire otherwise you would know that there are TONs of video people do not tell their mods or all the mods. that Z06 looks like beat a cammed LS1 and pullied cobra and you want me to believe it was stock. get a life.
so your sorry ass went from a pullied cobra vs Z06 driver race to Z06 > pullied cobra.
Shame on those guys on texas who hasn't given you a run yet.
again you ****tard, i posted that C5 kill just for aerodynamics, and I can compare C5 vette and c5 z06 vette on aerodynamics since both of them are just the same on body style.
I ran 11.34@122mph. is there any z06 ran those times or anywhere close BONE STOCK? if not, then pullied cobra > stock c5 z06. you must be bigtard not to figure this out.
anyway, I can do nothing but bench race you here on the internet since i am a thousand miles away from your ass and I hope some texas dudes will give you a run soon so you will STFU and go back to your ls1tech.com
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on the streets anything can happen. I have seen many people who told me that i just have an intake and we found out it had a kit. looks like you are new to streetfire otherwise you would know that there are TONs of video people do not tell their mods or all the mods. that Z06 looks like beat a cammed LS1 and pullied cobra and you want me to believe it was stock. get a life.
so your sorry ass went from a pullied cobra vs Z06 driver race to Z06 > pullied cobra.
Shame on those guys on texas who hasn't given you a run yet.
again you ****tard, i posted that C5 kill just for aerodynamics, and I can compare C5 vette and c5 z06 vette on aerodynamics since both of them are just the same on body style.
I ran 11.34@122mph. is there any z06 ran those times or anywhere close BONE STOCK? if not, then pullied cobra > stock c5 z06. you must be bigtard not to figure this out.
anyway, I can do nothing but bench race you here on the internet since i am a thousand miles away from your ass and I hope some texas dudes will give you a run soon so you will STFU and go back to your ls1tech.com
The guy in that video is actually well known on ls1tech and only had a intake in that video. Of course anything can happen on the streets.
You're still a retard if you're going to compare your friends C5 to a Z06 since they are different cars. For all I know you friends car could be running like shit with a couple bad plugs.
Hey smart ass I never once said that ONLY aerodynamics matters in a race
I could give a rat's ass what times you say your car ran. Lets not forget now that were talking about a roll race so you 1.6 60ft. isn't going to help
That has to be about the best trap speeds ever for a basic pullied cobra. What are your mods?
Also, I assume you ran slicks at the track and powershifted to get those times?
Did you buy the car new or used? Is it possible your car may have some other things done to it?
bought it bone stock to tires. and no the car didnt have anythingelse done to it. dynoed stock 370rwhp just like other cobras and pullied tuned it and put down 455rwhp just like any other your avarage pullied cobra.
bought it bone stock to tires. and no the car didnt have anythingelse done to it. dynoed stock 370rwhp just like other cobras and pullied tuned it and put down 455rwhp just like any other your avarage pullied cobra.
Very nice.
It's weird though, Cobra guys think a pullied cobra will beat a C5 Z06, and have experiences to prove it, and C5 Z06 guys think a C5 Z06 will beat a pullied cobra, and have experiences to prove it.
Weird.
For example, check this thread out (some of the posters are jerks in regards to the Cobra, try and ignore them, the rest seem ok, and for the record, I like Cobras):
He told the guy to leave it in 3rd from a roll and just step on it all the way to redline, so that takes driver error out of it, and the Z06 pulled on him:
hell ive run a c5zo6 and i pulled it 40-120 but i run out of gear at 120, im a little non pullied(lol) vert.
a friend of mine is going for his new tune in san antonio, after we get it done we'll swing by and drag your ass with me in the car and you with no passenger, the blower has never been off the car its just pullied and a few bolt ons(lol) hes trapped 125mph with no tune.
put up or shut up, sometime mid march.
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my buddy, who is an engineer, said something to the effect that aerodynamics dont really come in to play until after 100mph. 120 maybe? i dont recall exactly. ill ask him again today.
dont lightnings feel like they hit a wall at around that speed (120?). i remember my cobra feeling it, but i had the top down
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