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  1. Tob

    Tob Salut! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I chose the RR two piece floating front/rear rotors, Ferodo front pads, backing plates, and some Castrol React SRF brake fluid from Bruce at Full Tilt Boogie Racing. Everything was shipped promptly and packaged to perfection.

    I decided to start at the rear. The 13" rear kit comes with side specific, unidirectional rotors, brackets and hardware. The rotors are a sight to be seen...

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    A bracket for each side...

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    And bolts (nice hardware Bruce!)...

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    I started by disassembling the driver side rear. I pulled the wheel, caliper, and rotor off. You then have to remove the caliper bracket from the caliper. No need to touch the caliper bracket that mounts to the axle end (phew!).

    You need to remove a small amount of material from the factory caliper bracket in order for the FTBR supplied adapter plate to be able to be bolted to the caliper bracket at the axle.Note the small 'hump' that blocks your view of the bottom portion of thread...

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    I could have removed the material with a 4" grinder, a die grinder with a carbide bit, or otherwise. I chose to try a simple belt sander with a coarse belt. It did the job without a problem.

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    The flat surface of the sander spanned across both humps. I simply eyeballed the bracket to ensure it was square with the sander and hit it with a few 5 to 7 second bursts.

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    I placed the bolts in their respective holes in order to keep any fine metal particles from mucking up the threads. I then bolted the adapter into place to verify that the bolts cleared all the way through. I also taped up the sliding mechanism area in order to keep debris out of there as well.

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    Once I had enough clearance at each hole, I then carefully placed the bracket into a table vice and torqued the supplied bolts in place using blue Loctite. I also hit the freshly sanded area with a quick shot of high temperature clear.

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    I then went and reassembled everything but found that I couldn't get the caliper onto the thicker than stock rotor. I needed to compress the caliper piston but I couldn't get it in utilizing a simple tool I had used many times before. I needed a spanner wrench or something close to it. I ended up using the wrench for a 4" grinder that I had laying around. Worked perfectly.

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    I was now able to reinstall everything.

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    From atop the inside of the wheelwell looking down, you can see how Bruce's adapter plate relocates the caliper to allow the 13" rotors to fit...

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    As Bruce mentions in FTBR's excellent instructions, I'll keep my ears open for any noise that may indicate some rotor to caliper bracket interference as well as periodic visual inspections. I'm happy with what I see right now though.

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    I then slipped my 2013 GT500 base wheel/tires back on and torqued the lugs to spec...

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    Note that I'm using Gorilla's open ended locking nuts..

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    I took the supplied Gorilla 'key' and Tig welded it to a socket so that it would clear the FRPP/ARP studs I'm using...

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    I'm leaving the factory backing plates off for now. If the dust gets to be an issue I'll add them at a later date.

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    Very easy on the eyes, I look forward to the installation of the entire kit being completed. The wheels/studs/brakes make a pretty bold statement on my '09. The rear brakes are a simple enough mod that most anyone can accomplish with some skill and the proper tools. They definitely bump the cool factor up a notch.

    I'll try to get to the fronts as soon as I can.
     
  2. zporta

    zporta KB INSIDE Established Member

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    Wow Tob, those look great. Nice writeup as usual.

    I'm hoping the next time I'm in need to rotors a sale will be close.
     
  3. Tob

    Tob Salut! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Thanks Zak.
     
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    Fun4me New Member Established Member

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    You have perfect write-ups. Always a pure joy to read.
     
  5. evasive

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    Those look great - thanks for the write-up!
     
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    03 DSG Snake Unknown Cyborg Established Member

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    Those look daaaamn good. :coolman:
     
  7. TurboPh1sh

    TurboPh1sh Member Established Member

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    You can't just nonchalantly sneak those wheels into those photos!

    Are there any pics of the whole car with those wheels on?

    oh and uhh sweet brake setup!
     
  8. stkjock

    stkjock Corn Powered 900 HP! Established Member

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    Damn Tob, you have enough projects going on?!!!!

    Very nice, do u race the car that you went with the linger ARP studs and open ended lugs?
     
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    Nice.......
     
  10. 99cobraUgotbit

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    TOB can we switch places in life? Nice write up uhgain!
     
  11. Tob

    Tob Salut! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I appreciate it. My photography skills are lacking a bit and these at least help me to get some time in behind the lens. Lousy lighting seems to always have an advantage over me though.

    Somewhere, Bruce just smiled.

    Hmm. No room to back up and a fisheye shot makes the car look like Rosie O'Donnell at her fattest. Here's one of the back...

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    And one of the front (haven't done any FTBR magic up front yet)...

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    You'll have to do some imaginative interpolation to tie them together. So far the base wheels have flown under the radar and I'm thankful for it. I think the optional '13 wheel is a bit busy and lend themselves to a more European flair, if you will. I see these base wheels as a sort of modern day '95R rendition.

    Hopefully my love affair with them lasts more than a year!



    I have a few other irons in the fire that I haven't been documenting. There are so many unique but tasteful mods that I have in mind for this car. I'm not sure when it'll stop!

    ARP studs were just in case I do decide to thrash this thing. Plus, I'm a hardware fanatic and simply couldn't resist.:)

    I know you're seeing this through '13 eyes, Javier, and I'm sure you've paid attention to Bruce's comments on maybe developing a kit for the '13/'14. The front rotors have to be insanely heavy on your car so I could see quite a benefit from a lighter rotor. It'll be interesting to see if Bruce can utilize the current hat and just use a larger diameter ring. That would allow me yet another upgrade if I wanted to use the '13/'14 caliper. I suppose there is a benefit to everyone from kits such as this one from FTBR.

    Just keep watering your grass and before long it'll be greener than mine.;) And thanks for the kind words.
     
  12. Ry_Trapp0

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    Tob, it appears that the caliper bracket and rotor included in bruce's kit space the rear brakes outwards a quarter inch or so. do you think this will affect the custom wheel guys?
    great write up as usual! i'm sure i mentioned it before, but DAMN do those wheels look good!
     
  13. Tob

    Tob Salut! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    First one to note that Ry. Very perceptive.

    Fits my factory 20" with plenty of room to spare. I'm unsure as to issues with custom wheels but that is a possibility. Maybe Bruce could comment on fitment across the board...
     
  14. ac427cobra

    ac427cobra FULLTILTBOOGIERACING.COM Staff Member Super Moderator

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    First off, Great write up Tob. :thumbsup:

    This kit does move the rear caliper laterally outward 12mm and raises it just under 17mm closer to the wheel. On a front application the caliper is very close to the wheel and this could possibly be an issue, but on the rear, IMHO it would be doubtful. But it is a good point and those with custom wheels should take a look at their current rear caliper location and see if it can be moved these distances.

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  15. me32

    me32 BEASTLY SHELBY GT500 TVS Established Member

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    Looks great man
     
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    AlanSVT New Member Established Member

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    Damn. I know what set up ill be going with when the time comes.
     
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    It would be great if the rears worked on the '13 - I want to use the '13 rear calipers on my '08.


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    ac427cobra FULLTILTBOOGIERACING.COM Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Your '08 has the same calipers a '13-'14 has! :read::idea:
     
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    ac427cobra FULLTILTBOOGIERACING.COM Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Ok after reading this I perhaps misread your post! :dw:

    We WILL be making a rear rotor for the '13-'14 cars. Just now working on the hat and rotor drawings as we speak.

    BTW the rear rotor on the '13-'14 cars is NOT 14" it's only 13.750".

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  20. me32

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    Good info I thought they were 14in.
     

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