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Hill Holder in the 2013 Boss

Discussion in '2012-2013 Boss 302 Mustang' started by El Jeffe, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. El Jeffe

    El Jeffe New Member Established Member

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    Came across this in a few places reading specs on the Boss (including Ford's) and it says the 2013 HAS the Hill holder feature built in.
    Honestly since Im pretty good on the clutch Ive never noticed it.
    Saw this reference that how it works is discribed in the Mustang owners manuel...." You can find this topic discussed on page 166 of the Mustang Owner's guide (2nd printing) you get with your car."
    Didn't get a chance to check that out as car is under cover now for winter. I knew the new GTs had this feature, but didnt think that the Boss's did. Anyone else know this? If so, how DOES it work exactly.
     
  2. jaywoo

    jaywoo Soooo Boss Established Member

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    I don't know the actual "How", but it does work. Holds for I believe two seconds or whenever there is forward motion.
     
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    86Fbody New Member Established Member

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    It's pretty sweet. They could have kept that on the Boss and got rid of the damn skip shift.
     
  4. Whosthe

    Whosthe New Member Established Member

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    Yup. It's there. When I went for a test drive it was the first time I had driven a stick in about 20 years. I figured I might roll back on a hill so I left some room when I stopped. I was suprised to find that the car had the assist and noticed it and commented about it right away to the salesman. He had no clue of course about how it worked or that it even existed on the car.
     
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    03ShadowCobra To the Hindenpeter!!! Established Member

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    it seems to work sometimes. not sure why or what is the trigger.
     
  6. jaywoo

    jaywoo Soooo Boss Established Member

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    No skip shift on the 2013. :)
     
  7. KBBoss302

    KBBoss302 Member Established Member

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    I despise the hill hold feature because it is so unpredictable.

    I've asked to see if it can be disabled, but [email protected] told me it's in the ABS circuitry and he can't get access to it through an SCT tuner.
     
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    hkerekes New Member Established Member

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    Most hill holder features use the pressure that is in the brake lines when you come to a stop. If you mash the brake pedal down all the way it has a lot of pressure to hold the brakes with.


    A simple and easy solution is when you are on a hill use the minimum amount of pressure to hold the car. The system has less pressure held against the pads and you can overcome it easier and let it release faster.

    Until most people realize that they hate the hill hold feature.
     
  9. El Jeffe

    El Jeffe New Member Established Member

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    Jaywoo....I understood they dumped the skip shift on the 2013...boy IM glad they did.
    Thats a horrible feature on any car.
     
  10. El Jeffe

    El Jeffe New Member Established Member

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    Hey Guys! Found this discription in page 166 in Manuel as told.....check out how you can disable/enable easily by just hitting the brake 5 times in a row....

    HILL START ASSIST (IF EQUIPPED)
    WARNING: The hill start assist feature does not replace the
    parking brake. When you leave the vehicle, always apply the
    parking brake and shift the transmission into P (Park) for automatic
    transmission or 1st gear for manual transmissions.
    WARNING: You must remain in the vehicle once you have
    activated the hill start assist feature.
    WARNING: During all times, you are responsible for controlling
    the vehicle, supervising the hill start assist system and
    intervening, if required.
    WARNING: If the engine is revved excessively, or if a
    malfunction is detected when the hill start assist feature is active,
    the hill start assist feature will be deactivated.
    166 Transmission
    2013 05+ Mustang (197)
    Owners Guide gf, 2nd Printing
    USA (fus)
    This feature makes it easier to pull away when the vehicle is on a slope
    without the need to use the parking brake. When this feature is active,
    the vehicle will remain stationary on the slope for two to three seconds
    after you release the brake pedal. This allows you time to move your foot
    from the brake to the accelerator pedal. The brakes are released
    automatically once the engine has developed sufficient drive to prevent
    the vehicle from rolling down the slope. This is an advantage when
    pulling away on a slope, (for example from a car park ramp, traffic lights
    or when reversing uphill into a parking space).
    This feature is activated automatically on any slope that can result in
    significant vehicle rollback. This feature will not operate if the parking
    brake is activated.
    Using Hill Start Assist
    Note: If the engine is revved excessively, hill start assist will be
    deactivated.
    1. Press the brake pedal to bring the vehicle to a complete standstill.
    Keep the brake pedal pressed.
    2. If the sensors detect that the vehicle is on a slope, the hill start assist
    feature will be activated automatically.
    3. When you remove your foot from the brake pedal, the vehicle will
    remain on the slope without rolling away for approximately two or three
    seconds. This hold time will automatically be extended if you are in the
    process of driving off.
    4. Drive off in the normal manner. The brakes will be released
    automatically.
    Disabling and Enabling the Hill Start Assist Feature
    Your vehicle comes with hill start assist already enabled. If desired, you
    can disable the feature by following the procedure below.
    The following procedure must be completed within 45 seconds or the
    process will have to be repeated. Begin this procedure with the ignition
    turned off. This procedure is for both disabling and enabling the hill start
    assist system.
    1. Apply parking brake to make sure the vehicle is not moving.
    2. Turn the ignition on.
    3. Place the vehicle in neutral gear.
    4. Slowly press and release the brake pedal five times – make sure the
    brake pedal is completely released each time.
    Transmission 167
    2013 05+
     
  11. blacksheep-1

    blacksheep-1 New Member Established Member

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    IMO, more computerized BS to go wrong at the least convenient time.
     
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    Davemcc New Member Established Member

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    I like it. It seems to work well for me.
     
  13. KBBoss302

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    El Jeffe you are my hero! I will try that procedure out, thank you.
     
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    Whosthe New Member Established Member

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    How dare you actually read the manual and get the answers. :)
     
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    El Jeffe New Member Established Member

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    Its winter in Western PA mountains....alot of time on my hands....haha
    Honestly I saw that reference to page 166 in the manuel on the Ford Owners site....and looked up only page 166 on the online manuel as mine is in the glove box, the car is covered in the garage with the trickle charger on it and I was too lazy to pull all that out to get into the car and grab the real manuel....ah online stuff eh??
     
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    Brewmaster New Member Established Member

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    Hey Jeff-- maybe the hill holder is the reason you are so good on the clutch! :)
     
  17. DommerEOD

    DommerEOD I'm Awesome Established Member

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    Figuring out when it works is a PITA. I'm pretty sure it only works if you clutch in, put it in 1st gear then release the brake. It will not function on my boss if i release the brake before putting it in 1st gear.
     
  18. Mike444

    Mike444 New Member Established Member

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    My 2013 boss must not have the option to turn off the hill holder with the brake on start up? Only way I have been able to turn it off is by holding down the advance track to turn off everything. My owners manual doesnt show anything either (I guess mine is the 1st edition).
     

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