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Old 10-16-2009, 12:55 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You lost me, are you saying that someone that get's a heart transplant should be considered a different person...?
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:22 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I have a solid axle... shame on me for not getting a mach 1!
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:39 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Eh, whatever... I'm buying a V6 car atleast that's what the VIN says, but when the big block passes by I'll claim the fastest V6 record...lol (man you guys would love to lose to a v6 right?)

To each their own.
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:45 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Please, no one take offense to my post, it's mainly because this argument has been on going since the first cars were raced.

Some people go to auctions looking for numbers matching, others look for whatever is faster.
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:53 PM   #30 (permalink)
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You lost me, are you saying that someone that get's a heart transplant should be considered a different person...?
Ummm..... no read the last line!!! You would still be you!!!
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:59 PM   #31 (permalink)
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My opinion- Blown-6spd-IRS=Terminator end of story
I will agree with this once the aftermarket stuff start coming on like sra,TT, its not true to how it came out of the dealer
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:11 PM   #32 (permalink)
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As long as its still Ford powered I say its still a Terminator. When you cross-breed is where it starts getting confusing. Even then I guess what you see is what you get?
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:13 PM   #33 (permalink)
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If it started as a terminator, it'll always be a terminator. The fastest terminator is the fastest. Period. You can make up your own records from there. That's why so many people strive for fastest 6 speed, IRS, eaton only, or 6 speed, IRS, ported eaton, or 6 speed IRS stock pulley eaton etc,. I started with a slower car so setting a record is easier for me. If I can drop 2 tenths I'll have the worlds fastest SC'd Mach 1
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Soon as a Terminator has been bastardized with an auto and SRA, it's no longer what the VIN # reflects.

More like a pumped-up Mach1 then what the car was originally intended for.
It was never meant to be a 1/4 mile car.

That's what the Mach 1 was for...
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So what was the 03-04 Cobra created for if it wasn't made for drag racing?

Solid axle and auto trans are fine IMO. As long as you keep the 4.6 DOHC in it I still consider it an 03-04 cobra. Now if you go pushrod (the smart choice ) or something other than the 4.6 then I think an argument could be made for it not really being what it was. But strengthening the drivetrain, like going auto and solid rear doesn't make it not a cobra. It just makes it a faster cobra.

I think the only people who try to justify certain setups as not being a cobra anymore are the ones who are too slow to keep up so they try to make themselves feel better by making retarded claims and retarded records like "the fastest 6-speed IRS sonic blue windows tinted original floor matted shorty antenna'd cobra in their town". Get over it and accept the fact that some people will put an auto/solid rearin their cobra and that it's still a cobra whether you feel that way or not. I mean, cobras didn;t come with KBs, whipples, or turbos from the factory, so does any cobra with one of those make it not a cobra anymore? I think not.
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Old 10-16-2009, 04:42 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Kinda what i was thinking too. but hell he is 3rd on the list,im 4th and im happy where i am..at least for now
But if you look at his stats...

He is the top Eaton/IRS/6Speed guy.

Terminator = Proper VIN from Ford/SVT with 4 Valve Motor (Whether it be turbo'd, twin screw, solid axle, trans swap)
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:04 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Ummm..... no read the last line!!! You would still be you!!!
Sorry, just got it twisted in my head.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:19 PM   #37 (permalink)
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For everyone that thinks a Terminator has to be a near stock car, what do you classify a Cobra that has been heavily modded yet the owner still has all the stock parts...
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:39 PM   #38 (permalink)
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When it still instills fear and anxiety in everyone else's rear view in that way that only a car recognizable as a Terminator can.

Or until you replace the side scoop inserts; once those come off it's not a Terminator anymore.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:48 PM   #39 (permalink)
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hmm and all this time i thought the vin number had them listed as cobras
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And the saga continues.........
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:54 PM   #41 (permalink)
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This is just a question some of my friends and I have been talking about. I just wanted to get some of your opinions. For instance would a full out drag car with a Terminator Body still be considered a Terminator if it has Auto, Solid Axle, Little to No interior, Race Seats, No A/C or PowerSteering, Etc? The thing that gets me is all of these people that buy Terminators cut them up and change suspension, drivetrain, seats, brakes, etc. In my opinion a Terminator shoud be 6-speed, I.R.S., Cobra Brakes, Interior(Rear Seat Delete Acceptable), and mostly streetable. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. If I wanted strictly a drag car and liked the Termi Body, I would have just bought a V6 and swapped in a Blown 4-valve with an Auto and Solid Axle. My main question is if a Terminator that sets some kind of record for being fast, and all thats left of the car is a Terminator Exterior Shell and a 4-valve is that really a Terminator Record? Where is the line drawn???
Why not just call me out directly? LOL

if you want to go that far the blower should not be ported either....Or have an electric water pump....
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If you ask 10 people that question you'll receive 10 different answers.
What he said.
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But if you look at his stats...

He is the top Eaton/IRS/6Speed guy.

Terminator = Proper VIN from Ford/SVT with 4 Valve Motor (Whether it be turbo'd, twin screw, solid axle, trans swap)

and is very respected for that...thats why Im not sure why he even posted this...
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All i can say is RUN WHAT YA BRUNG AND HOPE YOU BROUGHT ENOUGH. six speed if you wanna have fun....auto if you wanna go fast. lol a cobras a cobra
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Damn good question I think. There must be a line somewhere. IMO VIN alone is not enough but I dont have the answers.


But guys we are SVTP. Hell lets decide what we think is right! LOL

I think it would be interesting and informative to democraticaly come up with an answer to the question. Maybe a poll?






EDIT: Could look to NMRA race classes as a guide line. They are pretty clear on what they consider a stock style car and a race car.
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Old 10-18-2009, 10:51 AM   #46 (permalink)
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EDIT: Could look to NMRA race classes as a guide line. They are pretty clear on what they consider a stock style car and a race car.
if you go that route...classes usually say stock bolt in replacements are "ok". they just dont want the cars chassis modified like a mini-tub
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Original 4-valve BUILT BY COLLETTI is the only way anything can be considered a "terminator". Since essentially the name was for the engine. Not really the entire car.
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Original 4-valve BUILT BY COLLETTI is the only way anything can be considered a "terminator". Since essentially the name was for the engine. Not really the entire car.
So by that logic if you hurt the engine and have to replace anything internally it is no longer a terminator. LOL!

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Old 10-18-2009, 12:27 PM   #49 (permalink)
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In the end, it is a mustang. I don't care what you call mine, just doesn't matter to me. Just be ready when I pull up beside you and don't get caught sleepin.
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In the end, it is a mustang. I don't care what you call mine, just doesn't matter to me. Just be ready when I pull up beside you and don't get caught sleepin.
Exactly what i'm thinking. I know some purist that will vomit on anything that is not a fox-body with a windsor. A terminator is a great car but not a collector car . So i don't see anything bad about extremely modded 03-04 cobra's.
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