Thanks a lot, fellows. Keep the ideas coming! Im getting a feel for what I want. Im now thinking of a large single instead of twins. Like I said... I want something that wont give me much lag at all on the street. Im not sure about going auto... but things tend to change every second in my thought process, so we will see.
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Thanks a lot, fellows. Keep the ideas coming! Im getting a feel for what I want. Im now thinking of a large single instead of twins. Like I said... I want something that wont give me much lag at all on the street. Im not sure about going auto... but things tend to change every second in my thought process, so we will see.
Best thing I can recommend, is just find a goal and something you want to accomplish and go from there. A 324ci with Twin 60's would be hawt and spool very nicely. You also have to remember, a car will come in a lot faster on the street than compared to the dyno. If this is going to be a weekend cruiser that you can drive when you want, take to the track and turn up and just plain and simple have fun, twin 60's with a 6 SPD might be the way to go. Figure majority of the time, your races will start from 40+. 40+ MPH your car is in PERFECT load for the turbos. Your car will already be in proper RPM range, and if your not. Just slide your foot over the brake, apply it with the right amount of gas. Bring boost to 10 PSI and left off brake and mash gas then hold on!!!
There is so many different options it isn't even funny. Just think about it for a good deal of time and go from there!! Goodluck!!
Im going out of the country for a year or so and im looking for a good shop to install a nice setup while im out.
I also need to know if by chance I can keep the car streetable with this setup on low boost. I want something that will spool fast when under a nice throttle push, but something I can actually take to the streets and play and it not be all over the place.
Please fill me in on any and all you think I should know.
Thanks in advance.
I'm doing a custom Y2K, so is a friend of mine. The shop that is doing it currently has 7 turbo cars just done or due to be built in inventory. 1 SOHC, 6 DOHC. 5 are complete custom kits, 2 are HP re-do's.
Single 76 on B-heads 96 cobra (stock t-56, owner only wants 600 rwhp)
Twin 72's (stepping down to twin 67's, explained below) on a VT324 teskid (upgraded T-56)
Y2K single on a VT 324 teskid (G-Force 1200hp rated T-56)
Y2K single on Navigator overbore block w/terminator heads (winntech? auto)
91mm "04 cobra" body in white, engine specs yet to be determined but will be a Ford modular. (PA C4)
If you're interested in a high quality shop with a in-house dyno to build you a kit drop me a PM and I'll talk with you more in private.
Moving on:
FWIW, do not do twin 76's on a street car. You will never spool them all the way up. My cousins VT 324 with twin72's starts spooling at 5500+ RPM's. We don't know where it stops as he won't take it past 7500 RPM's on pump gas. He was waiting on a VP 109 octane retune but decided to dump the 72's in favor of 67's due to streetability. Although 76's seem tempting (on the 72's his car put down over 750 rwhp at 12 PSI/91 octane breaking it in), twin 67's should be enough to get 1600 flywheel?
If you are intent on doing twin 76's, most likely you'll have to do a stock stroke/billet rod setup. Based on the 72's which had a stroker, you'll need to rev the damn engine to the moon (9000+ RPM's if I took a guess) to get the full potential from the setup.
If you are going to do a 324, I'd highly suggest a single setup. Y2K singles flow -plently-. Problem is deciding where you want to stuff that monster.
Anyways here is what twin 72's look like:
Drop me a PM if you want some contact info for turbo folks out here in PHX.
I'd go single. Like 50 BMG said, you'll never spool the twin 76mm turbos. The four cyl guys can get away with it reving to 9k, making power from 6-9k or so. Look into the GT47R.
do you really wnat to do this when you try to race someone??
Sounds great.
Don't think exactly that would happen when I race someone cause I'd use a 2 step. On the street, a 650+ TS car is probably a bigger hassel out of the hole than that 800+ TT car.
i personally have a 5.0 stroker and twin 61mm turbos... it spools quick and is more than capable to eclipse 1200rwhp. one of thp's cars made 1200rwhp at 27psi with the twin 60's and more boost possible... there really is no reason to go any bigger!!! 99% of people out there have no idea how much power that is. twin 76's are just rediculous for our cars... days to spool, and not needed to make HUGE power.
keep in mind that my car makes more than 750rwhp on its very safe and docile street tune (11/1 a/f, 10 degrees timing, pump). as mentioned earlier, once you get used to the car, you'll soon learn to brake boost and then you have a car that just flat out moves INSTANTLY! it hits as hard as a shot of nos and pulls like a frieght train. i've raced some high nine and low ten second cars and it wasn't even close.
as a side note, be prepared to break bread... i spend considerably more than $25k on my setup. turboing your cobra is not for the faint of heart
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not all us spin like that on the street. i'm running a solid rear end with 335 hoosier drs and even in lower gears my car hooks very hard. much of the reason some of these turbo cars spin so hard is because they aren't running a built enough suspension and an aggressive enough tire. my will hook even harder once i install my fully adjustable tokikos and softer coilover springs.
if your going away to fight then i think its a great goal if you have the bread. it's something you can monitor online and keep you excited about something waiting back home. don't go auto, buy a GT 500 first and mod from there.
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i personally have a 5.0 stroker and twin 61mm turbos... it spools quick and is more than capable to eclipse 1200rwhp. one of thp's cars made 1200rwhp at 27psi with the twin 60's and more boost possible... there really is no reason to go any bigger!!! 99% of people out there have no idea how much power that is. twin 76's are just rediculous for our cars... days to spool, and not needed to make HUGE power.
keep in mind that my car makes more than 750rwhp on its very safe and docile street tune (11/1 a/f, 10 degrees timing, pump). as mentioned earlier, once you get used to the car, you'll soon learn to brake boost and then you have a car that just flat out moves INSTANTLY! it hits as hard as a shot of nos and pulls like a frieght train. i've raced some high nine and low ten second cars and it wasn't even close.
as a side note, be prepared to break bread... i spend considerably more than $25k on my setup. turboing your cobra is not for the faint of heart
how much would you say you had in your car money wise, including tuning and all the parts.
if your going away to fight then i think its a great goal if you have the bread. it's something you can monitor online and keep you excited about something waiting back home. don't go auto, buy a GT 500 first and mod from there.
If you are referring to going away to fight as though im going to Iraq as a soldier... then no. Ive been there and done that in the initial push through Iraq. Im going over now as a civilian contractor making a considerable amount more and doing less. Im ready to spend what it costs... Im just doing all my research first.
What size a/r are were on thoes twin 72's on the turbine side? On a push rod 347 with twin bb t76 .58 on the turbine side full spool by 4k. I would think a 320ish mod motor would spool them just as well.
I would just sell you car, and get a stock one. You are not going to use any of the equipment you have on there now. With all the money you have ill give you 25000.
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I would just sell you car, and get a stock one. You are not going to use any of the equipment you have on there now. With all the money you have ill give you 25000.
I doubt he'll fall for that. He could sell parts off his car and at least get a start on his mods.
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24# ---------------> 900rwhp on the bone stock motor.
1000rwhp would be no problem with a built motor. If you ride in his car, YOU WILL, get the kit. It is very well done and looks better than any of the other ones.
Also, you will have some of the best Mod Motor guys in the country working on your car. Good luck with the choice.
Check this guy out and see his setup. He said he is using the GT35-R Turbos on this set-up. No look in here http://www.precisionturbo.net/turboc...tegory_id=3023 and see the description of the Turbo's being used and the compressor wheel diameter.
24# ---------------> 900rwhp on the bone stock motor.
1000rwhp would be no problem with a built motor. If you ride in his car, YOU WILL, get the kit. It is very well done and looks better than any of the other ones.
Also, you will have some of the best Mod Motor guys in the country working on your car. Good luck with the choice.
Well Ive decided to sell the car after all. Im going to Iraq and will be back to buy another Cobra and do a turbo. Im picking up a 2003 Z06 for a get around car until I leave. Who knows... I may forge and stroke that puppy and throw a T88 on it or something to that affect. Thanks for all the help.
P.S. I will stay a member here because im not a fan of the Fbody losers on other boards. HAHAH
The ONLY and BEST person that I would reccomend for a serious build like you are doing is a guy in Florida named Jay Meagher. Jay used to work for Lamotta Performance (in Longwood, FL), and he is one of the best mustang mechanics you will find. If you look around he built Wolverine's 1000+RWHP turbo mustang. He also did work on my car with working all the bugs out and tuning it.
Jay now runs his own shop and if I were you I would definately look into letting him buiuld it if you want everything done right. You would not be disappointed, because when he is done you car will run flawlessly.
If you'd like any more info on Jay or to contact him lemme know.
-Ricky Haiber
OOPS! SORRY, DIDN't SEE YOU WERE POSTPONING BUILDING THE CAR!!!
Well Ive decided to sell the car after all. Im going to Iraq and will be back to buy another Cobra and do a turbo. Im picking up a 2003 Z06 for a get around car until I leave. Who knows... I may forge and stroke that puppy and throw a T88 on it or something to that affect. Thanks for all the help.
P.S. I will stay a member here because im not a fan of the Fbody losers on other boards. HAHAH
hahaha, yeah, IMO thats a bad move but its your car, so you can do what you want. personally I'd keep it.
Well Ive decided to sell the car after all. Im going to Iraq and will be back to buy another Cobra and do a turbo. Im picking up a 2003 Z06 for a get around car until I leave. Who knows... I may forge and stroke that puppy and throw a T88 on it or something to that affect. Thanks for all the help.
P.S. I will stay a member here because im not a fan of the Fbody losers on other boards. HAHAH