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Old 10-29-2009, 09:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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So, a eaton holds up but not the kb. That sucks, so I guess it is time to try a whipple.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:25 AM   #27 (permalink)
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So, a eaton holds up but not the kb. That sucks, so I guess it is time to try a whipple.
I think the problem is that the twin screws are sealed units compared to a blower which will allow some it to blow back through it. I think your options are either an eaton or a TVS.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:39 PM   #28 (permalink)
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i was talking horse power to hp. and i was talking same weight. i think the compound car would win.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:07 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I think the problem is that the twin screws are sealed units compared to a blower which will allow some it to blow back through it. I think your options are either an eaton or a TVS.
Interesting. So a ported eaton would work, what about heat. Does this kit build up alot of heat keeping the blower on. Like heat soak.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:06 PM   #30 (permalink)
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there is heat soak, but no were near as bad as if you were running the blower at 17 psi only, compared to 17 compounded. The blower is spinning slower and still the total boost at the manifold is the same
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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i beat the hell outta my car today, got out and checked the ic fluid right after a few highway runs, it was suprisingly cold to the touch, ALOT colder than my 2.76/port combo was when i did the same thing. it was maybe 60 deg out also
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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So, a eaton holds up but not the kb. That sucks, so I guess it is time to try a whipple.
def go compounded! its actually less work bc you dont have to take the sc off during the install, lol.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:38 PM   #33 (permalink)
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That's cool man, I am def. going to be doing this when I pick up another cobra.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:58 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Interesting. So a ported eaton would work, what about heat. Does this kit build up alot of heat keeping the blower on. Like heat soak.
You would be surprised at how low the IAT really are with this setup even at 30+ psi.
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In MM&FF when they did their Hellraiser article last year, it showed very low IA2 temps. Pretty much almost ambient. The dual intercooler setup worked wonders and the Eaton was only spinning using the stock pulley.

I was thinking about going compound boost myself but using a TVS. I've been thinking about this long and hard, and I believe that cars that are making huge torque in lower rev range end up making their cars poor for the street. Everything that I've been reading show turbo's make a better streetable car at the higher horsepower and torque. They were saying the Ford GT that made 1400rwhp was very streetable. Just food for thought and of course, to each their own.
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So you think the tvs would be better for the street, cause I street race more than I go to the track. I love twins and superchargers, so why not put them both together. I don't like the turbo lag, but love the power when it gets boosted up. I am looking for the ultimate street/strip setup.
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So you think the tvs would be better for the street, cause I street race more than I go to the track. I love twins and superchargers, so why not put them both together. I don't like the turbo lag, but love the power when it gets boosted up. I am looking for the ultimate street/strip setup.
you have found it my friend... and if its not for you, just remove the blower
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:53 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Cool, I sold my mustang back last Oct. have been waiting to get back in one.
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does this kit eliminate the air to water h/e for the eaton? I pulled up the hellraiser setup on lethalperf and didn't see the eaton h/e...only the air to air for the twins.
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does this kit eliminate the air to water h/e for the eaton? I pulled up the hellraiser setup on lethalperf and didn't see the eaton h/e...only the air to air for the twins.
you actually keep both intercoolers, a/a a/w, u just re use the existing hardware
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Does anyone know the difference between the area under the curve starting at 4k? Seems like if the turbo car break boosted it will make up some of the lag and may even out the race. Same goes if a turbo car is racing a big motor big shot nitrous car, the only way it will stand a chance is by break boosting. I would think the area under the curve is more benificial in the lower rpms once you get above second gear the rpms dont drop that much lower than 4k.
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Does anyone know the difference between the area under the curve starting at 4k? Seems like if the turbo car break boosted it will make up some of the lag and may even out the race. Same goes if a turbo car is racing a big motor big shot nitrous car, the only way it will stand a chance is by break boosting. I would think the area under the curve is more benificial in the lower rpms once you get above second gear the rpms dont drop that much lower than 4k.
My setup can see boost from the turbo at under 2k rpm easily.
In my opinion the slight loss of the top end from the supercharger is not as bad as the benifit you get from the immediate hp increase the supercharger gives, it's like adding a 100 shot of nitrous.
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