Brakes won't pressure up, bled numerous times.

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I took my front calipers off the car the paint them, and since the lines were disconnected all the fluid drained out of the front part of the reservoir. I also put new pads in as well since they were already off the car. So I fill the reservoir back up so to let the lines fill back up, and when they started to drip I connected the lines the caliper. First go around bleeding the brakes, I got a normal amount of air come out (Had a clear hose and catch cup to the bleeder screw) Did each wheel until no more air came out...Pedal still went straight to the floor with very little resistance. Bled them again, but this time bled the master cylinder first, which no air ever came out) Then the wheels again. Never got any air out the second go around, and even ran a whole bottle through just to be sure. The pedal still feels the same, no pressure. You can even turn the rotor slightly when the pedal is down.

Anybody have an idea on what may be going on? The lines going to caliper are tight, with no leaks anywhere. Could the pistons be froze up? I only disconnected the front brakes, and only the front part of reservoir went empty.
 

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Calipers are side specific.

Make sure the bleeder screw is facing the front of the vehicle and is the highest point of the caliper:

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?436874-Front-Brakes

If you already have that squared away and it's still not building pressure, you have introduced air into the MC and might get lucky with keeping the fluid topped off in the reservoir with help from two other people at all times to make sure the reservoir has fluid at all times while you bleed (at the screw) and the 3rd person pumps the brakes slow and gently without allowing it to bottom to the floor and or perhaps you need to hone up on your bleeding skills. If neither of the above do not work for you, take it to a specialist who knows what they are doing.
 

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Calipers are side specific.

Make sure the bleeder screw is facing the front of the vehicle and is the highest point of the caliper:

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?436874-Front-Brakes

If you already have that squared away and it's still not building pressure, you have introduced air into the MC and might get lucky with keeping the fluid topped off in the reservoir with help from two other people at all times to make sure the reservoir has fluid at all times while you bleed (at the screw) and the 3rd person pumps the brakes slow and gently without allowing it to bottom to the floor and or perhaps you need to hone up on your bleeding skills. If neither of the above do not work for you, take it to a specialist who knows what they are doing.


What this guy said, I made this bone head mistake when doing a 5 lug swap on a fox body. Took me about 2 weeks of messing with it to realize that the calipers were on the wrong side of the car.
 

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Bleed the master cylinder then move to the brakes. I had the same problem when I powder coated mine.
 

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Sounds like you need to bleed the master.

Just like the calipers you need to get the air out of the MC. Put a hose on the bleeders on the side of the MC and loop it back into the top of the master. Pump brakes and open the bleeder just like on the caliper. I can't remember which to do first as there are two of them. Do them both, then bleed brakes normal. That should fix it.
 

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I took my front calipers off the car the paint them, and since the lines were disconnected all the fluid drained out of the front part of the reservoir.

You left the system open and got air into the entire system. The system should never be open longer than it takes to change a brake line or caliper. If you do have the system open for any length of time, the line needs to be plugged.

You now have air in your ABS system. You will most likely need to visit the dealer so they can use the Ford tool required to cycle and bleed the ABS module.
 

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^^^ this guy. If the calipers are not on backwards I'd say the ABS module has air. I have had luck bleeding out an ABS unit with a pressure bleeder, have also not been as lucky.
 

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You left the system open and got air into the entire system. The system should never be open longer than it takes to change a brake line or caliper. If you do have the system open for any length of time, the line needs to be plugged.

You now have air in your ABS system. You will most likely need to visit the dealer so they can use the Ford tool required to cycle and bleed the ABS module.

I left mine open for about a week and did not have a problem with air in the Abs system. I tried to bleed my brakes nothing. Then tried the M/c which had air in it then went back to the brakes which gave me my pedal back. Someone suggested to go down a dirt road after and slam on the brakes so the abs kicks in which I did then came home and did the brakes once more just to be safe and had no problems. Brakes work just as good as before
 

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You guys did read he already bled the Master right?

Now assuming he did all things correctly I still say ABS unit has air, OR calipers are one backwards.
 

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Thanks for the input guys, I was a dumbass and only bled the front bleeder on the master. I went and bled the rear bleeder on mc, and quite a bit of air came out. Moved onto the wheels, and all air is out of system and back to normal
 

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