Latest Drivetrain and Horsepower Speculation?

[conceptmachine]

I couldnt get the money out of my pocket fast enough for:
Boss 429 ( i know - not happening)
slower for TT V8
I'll likely wait and see what the competition brings if its a supercharged car... unless its 810+hp.

 

[SID297]

I've been saying TT 5.0 since day 1. This article is rather interesting and after reading it, I think it lends well towards my belief.

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/1709-inside-look-at-the-new-2018-coyote-block/

Good info, but that site is terrible (ad overload).

 

[Dirks9901]

There's some interesting guesses in here. I have a feeling that the car will sell very well, but I also think it will strengthen the market for some of the older SVTs.

This is definitely the most interesting piece of info in this thread. It screams to me that either there will be no manual option or Ford is stuffing a eco V6 in it. Or maybe both. Never wanted to be more wrong in my life.


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[conceptmachine]

Is there a ford manual that is rated 770+hp, 700 torque? If so, id say a manual trans is coming as well. If not, maybe DCT only? I can see them only wanting to invest in one.

 

[SlowSVT]

I've been saying TT 5.0 since day 1. This article is rather interesting and after reading it, I think it lends well towards my belief.

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/1709-inside-look-at-the-new-2018-coyote-block/

Didn't see anything earth shattering regarding the new Coyote block other than having a plasma arch cylinder coating which is not a welcome development for anyone who wants to rebuild the block. I wonder how it stacks-up against the 4.6 3V blocks ability to hold hp? Are the Coyote engines holding-up well at the 1000 hp level? My understanding is they've had their share of issues and have gone thru several revision to correct problems encountered with blocks failing.

 

[SID297]

Didn't see anything earth shattering regarding the new Coyote block other than having a plasma arch cylinder coating which is not a welcome development for anyone who wants to rebuild the block. I wonder how it stacks-up against the 4.6 3V blocks ability to hold hp? Are the Coyote engines holding-up well at the 1000 hp level? My understanding is they've had their share of issues and have gone thru several revision to correct problems encountered with blocks failing.

The plasma liner is fine until you screw it up. A sleeved engine would be screwed up too under the same circumstances.

 

[SlowSVT]

The plasma liner is fine until you screw it up. A sleeved engine would be screwed up too under the same circumstances.

True statement until after something goes wrong. A sleeved block can be serviced fairly easily. Not so much with a plasma coated one which will need to resort to very expensive sleeves to salvage it while weakening the bores in the process. I would be very reluctant buying a used sleeveless block of any kind.

 

[SID297]

True statement until after something goes wrong. A sleeved block can be serviced fairly easily. Not so much with a plasma coated one which will need to resort to very expensive sleeves to salvage it while weakening the bores in the process. I would be very reluctant buying a used sleeveless block of any kind.

Eh, you just bore it and sleeve it. Same thing would have to be done to a sleeved block too. In reality, these blocks will be produced in such numbers that it will be cheaper to throw away the broke one and buy a new one; rather than do all the machine work to fix it. The same is pretty much true of the current sleeved blocks.

 

[BlksvtCobra01]

@SID297 Was Ford planning on revealing earlier till news of the Demon broke out? Then decided to change some things? If you can tell if not no worries.


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[SID297]

@SID297 Was Ford planning on revealing earlier till news of the Demon broke out? Then decided to change some things? If you can tell if not no worries.


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Don't know their timeline, but they don't scrap a plan just because Brand X comes out with something new. SVT sets goals (and other cars as benchmarks) and then works towards them. The only time I can remember them just shit-canning a program for performance reasons was the 2002 Cobra. That engine was program was designed by someone who spent too much time in math class and with his fluid dynamics software, and not actually driving cars.

Also, the Demon is such a low production niche car that it would be like Chevy going back to the drawing board on the C6 Vette because the Ford GT dropped in 2005.

 

[TERMN8U]

When will we see it ?

 

[SID297]

When will we see it ?

My guess is NAIAS.

 

[CO Mack]

Low mount TT 5.2 CPC.

(My original guess was a 3.5 EB tuned between the Raptor and FGT but I'd be surprised, even though I loved the motor in my Raptor.

 

[TERMN8U]

Thank you for he info. I am literally going to my dealer on Saturday and handing him this for a deposit if you can give us all one more piece of the details that will make us all throw down for this car in advance.... you know Ford wants you too.

 

[BlksvtCobra01]

Don't know their timeline, but they don't scrap a plan just because Brand X comes out with something new. SVT sets goals (and other cars as benchmarks) and then works towards them. The only time I can remember them just shit-canning a program for performance reasons was the 2002 Cobra. That engine was program was designed by someone who spent too much time in math class and with his fluid dynamics software, and not actually driving cars.

Also, the Demon is such a low production niche car that it would be like Chevy going back to the drawing board on the C6 Vette because the Ford GT dropped in 2005.

Thanks for the info. Yeah John Colleti’s quote in Iron Fist Lead Foot had me rolling when he drove what was supposed to be the 2002 Cobra.


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[TERMN8U]

Thanks for the info. Yeah John Colleti’s quote in Iron Fist Lead Foot had me rolling when he drove what was supposed to be the 2002 Cobra.


" does anyone have a can of Alpo? Cause this things a dog"
Lol

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[SID297]

Thanks for the info. Yeah John Colleti’s quote in Iron Fist Lead Foot had me rolling when he drove what was supposed to be the 2002 Cobra.


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You should hear some of the more colorful behind the scenes stuff.

 

[TERMN8U]

You should hear some of the more colorful behind the scenes stuff.

Share some info. We would all love to hear it.

 

[BlksvtCobra01]

Share some info. We would all love to hear it.

This


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[TK1299]

Ford just needs to let the cat out of the bag already. Chevy wouldn't do this to thier consumers.