The football like shove might come back to harm the case against the decedent. All those jury members will have to ask whether or not yelling or screaming justified a physical response by someone not even involved in the matter.
Really? This Qualifies For "Stand Your Ground"
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The football like shove might come back to harm the case against the decedent. All those jury members will have to ask whether or not yelling or screaming justified a physical response by someone not even involved in the matter.
The jury will also have to decide if the "stand your ground" law even applies since the shooter instigated the incident.
If I stand and yell obscenities in your wife's face, in front of your children, do you have any right to confront me and if you do, can I legally shoot you if I feel threatened?
If I stand and yell obscenities in your wife's face, in front of your children, do you have any right to confront me and if you do, can I legally shoot you if I feel threatened?
The way some are thinking, no. He just has to stand there and do nothing while you berate his wife all you want. His only recourse is to rub her shoulders and tell her everything is going to be okay.
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Oh, and pray that she doesn't take him to the cleaners when she takes him to divorce court after his display of utter unwillingness to defend her and their children from a crazed maniac.
What people forget is that we are supposed to walk away, not confront them. If someone is screaming at my wife/kids/etc then I believe it's my legal responsibility to remove ourselves from the situation, not escalate the issue by confronting them.
If we can't get away safely then we must do whatever we need to do to protect ourselves. IMO, that guy had NO LEGAL REASON to shove that guy and, IMO, he started it. Does he deserve to get shot? That's for the court to decide.
I don't see the woman anywhere near the guy that is doing the badgering so, IMO, she was in no danger. He was just a guy expressing is feelings and he didn't deserve to get shoved to the ground.
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If we can't get away safely then we must do whatever we need to do to protect ourselves. IMO, that guy had NO LEGAL REASON to shove that guy and, IMO, he started it. Does he deserve to get shot? That's for the court to decide.
I don't see the woman anywhere near the guy that is doing the badgering so, IMO, she was in no danger. He was just a guy expressing is feelings and he didn't deserve to get shoved to the ground.
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I'll bet you $5 to $1 that every person in this thread saying the killer didn't deserve to be shoved are the same [type of] people who think they shouldn't suffer any repercussions from running their mouths at the wrong person. Basically, they want the right to be irate assholes and stand behind the protection of the law from a much deserved ass kicking.
He shouldn't have been shoved, but he DEFINITELY shouldn't have brandished his pistol and pulled the trigger. He started the whole incident as well.
"Threats"? As in bodily harm? I haven't heard a vid yet of him "threatening" the woman. Is this internet speculation or is there sound video of what he was saying to her somewhere?
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There is a difference between confronting someone and going off on them. If he had approached him and told him to back off he might not be dead. People these days do not seem to be able to control their tempers.
I'm not so sure about him not brandishing the weapon. To me it looks like the black gent only started backing away after the gun was pulled. I agree he "probably" didn't have to pull the trigger since the black gent was backing away.....but he was sitting on the ground in a vulnerable position. This could convince people that he still felt threatened. Either way, too bad a young man died and too bad the shooter is clearly an ass and society is better off with him off the streets.
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Same could be said for the shooter. He was in no life threatening peril. As mentioned, he sounds like that typical small dick hill rat that thinks he's tough shit cause he carry's a 1911.
Just a guess here:
The shooter and the victim are both regulars to the store. I would not doubt the victim was aware of the erratic behavior the shooter may have had towards other patrons which could be perceived as a threat and immediate reaction to protect his girlfriend and child. After all, the shooter drove into the parking lot after the victim went into the store according to reports.
Im sure this will come out in court.
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The shooter deserved to be shoved. I don’t think anyone is really arguing that they feel he didn’t deserve it. SHOULD someone actually do it? Sure, if they’re willing to deal with the potential consequences. You might make your point and “win,” but you could also be charged for assault, get your own ass kicked, or killed. Even if the other guy is in tne wrong, you’re still dead.
I think that’s the point that’s being made, or at least how I’m interpreting it.
Is there any audio as to what was being said between the shooter and gal in car? Or is it just hearsay that he was cussing her out.
There was no audio. A lot of assumptions and hearsay.
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McGlockton's girlfriend says Drejka confronted her as she sat in the couple's car with two of their children because she was parked in a handicapped-accessible space. The girlfriend, Britany Jacobs, said Drejka was cursing at her. Video shows McGlockton then exited the store and shoved Drejka to the ground. Seconds later, Drejka pulled out a handgun and shot McGlockton as he backed away.
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A Florida detective says a white man charged with fatally shooting an unarmed black man in a parking lot had threatened three other drivers previously.
Pinellas County sheriff's Detective George Moffett said in court records released Monday that a septic truck driver told him Michael Drejka threatened to shoot him and used racial slurs three months ago when the driver parked in the same handicapped-accessible parking space that victim Markeis McGlockton's family parked in on July 19.
Moffet also said that in 2012, drivers involved in two separate road-rage confrontations with Drejka said he pointed a gun at them. Moffet said that in one of the cases, the teen driver declined to press charges. In the other, the woman driver left the scene before the officer could get her information. The detective said that in both cases, Drejka denied pointing a gun but one was found in his car.
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He will rot in hell one way or the other. What a piece of shit.
Saw this on ABC World News. I'm siding with the prosecutor. This is manslaughter.
I absolutely do not think he should have been shoved. I think the woman in the car absolutely deserved the berating he was giving her since she parked in a handicap stall and probably wasn't handicapped. People should NOT get away with shit like this.
The gent that got shot and the woman should have completely ignored him and drove off after all they were in the wrong to begin with. It's truly unfortunate that it ended like it did but I really don't feel too sorry for anyone. IMO, one bully/thug off the street and one low life rotting in jail.
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