Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?

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Dave, can you speak to Jamal's involvement as well? I noticed...

Yeah, I mean Jamal was definitely very heavily involved because of the job, but if he had his druthers to build a car from the ground up, it would be different. Supercharged cars are just not really his thing at this point. I also think it's a little more overt stylistically than is his taste. I've never known him to get excited about much of anything, but he really misses his GT350R.

Ford is institutionally conservative and Raj was a risk taker, and he and Dave are just super into high performance. If things were off by 6 months or certainly a year, good luck getting this thing out the door...
 

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I knew we were going to really miss Jamal and Raj. I love the car, but I'm pretty sure I would like the Jamal version much more. Base silver car w/ no stripes for me... the elevated car behind Jim F looks nice and clean.
 

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Yeah, I mean Jamal was definitely very heavily involved because of the job, but if he had his druthers to build a car from the ground up, it would be different. Supercharged cars are just not really his thing at this point. I also think it's a little more overt stylistically than is his taste. I've never known him to get excited about much of anything, but he really misses his GT350R.

Ford is institutionally conservative and Raj was a risk taker, and he and Dave are just super into high performance. If things were off by 6 months or certainly a year, good luck getting this thing out the door...
Why did he sell it? If you can speak for him?
 

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Does anyone know if Ford finally got around to providing hood struts or are they still using a prop rod to hold up the hood?
 

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Does anyone know if Ford finally got around to providing hood struts or are they still using a prop rod to hold up the hood?

I was waiting for someone to ask that question. Since Ford has been reluctant to show the car with the hood up yet I had to do some digging. I found this buried and almost missed it...

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Note that it says "a mount for a gas shock for the hood." In other words, only one gas shock or strut to hold the hood up.

I then went back through the GT500 STB patent and noticed a ball end fitting on one side of the STB. Look closely at the bottom view...

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The above area I highlighted in red has to be it.

A wild ass guess as to where the other end of the strut will attach (forget the typical aftermarket hood strut locations for a moment if you can). Note the black bracket to the right side of the large center opening, little higher than halfway up the hood. There is a corresponding indentation in the way the SMC was molded and you don't see a mirror image of it on the other side of the center opening. It would make sense to try to cant the strut inward towards the center of the hood for more even support of the hood versus pinning it along the outside edge if there is only going to be one strut.

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Tob,
Thanks for taking the time to research this, at least now I know there is the potential.
Strange that Ford intentionally kept the hood shut. Maybe someone will get that hood up for the BJ auction tomorrow night.
 
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I think they just wanted to hold off on showing the STB, the underside of the hood, the rain tray, and even the strut so they can drip out the details between now and when the order banks finally open. Could be all the surface finishes aren't exactly 100% either, dunno.
 

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To further explicate and follow up on post #5697 up above.

I came upon an image I hadn't seen anywhere else. It looked to me like the photo that was cropped and then shared by Ford Performance a month or so ago when all they would say was "1/14/19" and all they showed was a portion of the upper blower case.

The blower case could be seen but the surrounding perimeter underhood area had been darkened or shadowed so you could only see what Ford wanted you to see. I ran the photo through photoshop and was able to uncover what they were hiding. Not only can you see the ball end or pivot/anchor point and gas strut (or shock) to hold the SMC hood up but you can see that Ford relocated the coolant tank that everyone is so fond of.:) My understanding of the hood strut is that it was not part of the program initially and was a late addition just like the hood pins may have been.

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Still digging for the details that the lamestream automotive media has no clue about.
 

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