nah... original recall for drop safe issues was legit....
SIG P320 - Good thing he wasn’t AIWB.
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nah... original recall for drop safe issues was legit....
Is it chambered in 45? I wouldn't mind having it as another carry option. I like to switch between carry guns every so often just for the hell of it.
Well that's the thing. You train, train, train until it becomes muscle memory and at that point your subconscious can act for you taking your conscious mind out of the equation in regards to your physical movements. Your subconscious is much faster, I think they say almost half a second quicker, and will repeat the drills you worked on thousands of time with perfect form. Doing that allows you to know what you will do in a violent confrontation. You want your subconscious to be able to take over for you.
Every story ive heard about an accidental discharge was "i never touched the trigger"
Yeah bullshit...just cuz you dont think ya did doesnt mean ya didnt...the adrenelin post shot can make ya believe it but it ia rarely true
I know leos who have been involved in shooting that recalled fireing 2 or 3 shots when they infact emptied the mag
Also...i was on a surgery two years ago where a retired sheriff shot himself in the leg with a .45 long colt revolver, he claimed he fell and it "went off"...funny how the forensics guys determined that was bullshit just based off of the entry angle and lack of a powder burn
For the record i was dissapointed at how littlw damage was done by the 45 long colt lol
Yeah bullshit...just cuz you dont think ya did doesnt mean ya didnt...the adrenelin post shot can make ya believe it but it ia rarely true
I know leos who have been involved in shooting that recalled fireing 2 or 3 shots when they infact emptied the mag
Also...i was on a surgery two years ago where a retired sheriff shot himself in the leg with a .45 long colt revolver, he claimed he fell and it "went off"...funny how the forensics guys determined that was bullshit just based off of the entry angle and lack of a powder burn
For the record i was dissapointed at how littlw damage was done by the 45 long colt lol
I call bullshit on this too. Doesn't compute.... I own the M17, which is the military version of the P320, and it's been one the best out of box guns i've owned ever. Sig makes very quality weapons, and i own many of them. Never had an issue with any of them. I still carry the P938 after like 8 years.
Now theres a gun that actually did have a spontaneous discharging problem. Except it would fire when you racked the slide back and chambered a round. Springfield had a huge recall for that years ago and took care of it, and redesigned the internals on the newer models. I've had a couple XDSs and they all fired great.
I am wondering. For those that live in sticker gun states. What would be the benefits of having one in the chamber at all times vs having a loaded mag that you could just **** back to load a round when needed? Not saying im saying you cant have a loaded gun at all times. Just wondering what the true benefit is between the 2 options.
Honestly i think this is very true for most people. Either 1 or the other or both. Personally i would not trust myself enough to carry with one always loaded in the chamber. But for home defense where children have no access too the gun i dont think its a bad idea to have one loaded in the chamber.
If you carry unchambered, you are carry a useless hunk of metal that you think is a firearm.
According to the FBI, most civilian gunfights last less than three seconds, at a distance of less than three feet during which time an average of three rounds are fired.
It is not difficult to imagine that situation. Since you will be the defender, your opponent will already have their weapon in hand or you wouldn’t think there is a need to use deadly force.
Since that recognition will cost you one to two seconds, you will have one second to draw, present and fire accurately during the middle of a massive adreniline rush.
This leaves no time for you to charge the weapon. If fact, if you are not a combat veteran it is likely that it will take a second or two more to figure out how to respond while you stand still and get shot at, if you don’t believe me, ask anyone who has had their target try to kill them.
Put simply, carry chambered and train for combat, do not practice shooting. If you don’t know the diffence between training and shooting practice, you need more training.
If you elect to not carry chambered, at least get a really nice custom OWB, open carry, sharkskin holster and a beautiful engraved 1911 with fancy gold inlay, so it will look good in your autopsy photos.
According to the FBI, most civilian gunfights last less than three seconds, at a distance of less than three feet during which time an average of three rounds are fired.
It is not difficult to imagine that situation. Since you will be the defender, your opponent will already have their weapon in hand or you wouldn’t think there is a need to use deadly force.
Since that recognition will cost you one to two seconds, you will have one second to draw, present and fire accurately during the middle of a massive adreniline rush.
This leaves no time for you to charge the weapon. If fact, if you are not a combat veteran it is likely that it will take a second or two more to figure out how to respond while you stand still and get shot at, if you don’t believe me, ask anyone who has had their target try to kill them.
Put simply, carry chambered and train for combat, do not practice shooting. If you don’t know the diffence between training and shooting practice, you need more training.
If you elect to not carry chambered, at least get a really nice custom OWB, open carry, sharkskin holster and a beautiful engraved 1911 with fancy gold inlay, so it will look good in your autopsy photos.
the thing is that, most people think that they will have the time to rack... that is a serious gamble... you will need two free hands and will be adding one more step to your firing process that you could potentially **** up due to duress, with DEADLY consequences... you are already at a HUGE disadvantage being the defensor. Someone with intent to kill you will already have the drop on you. You will NEED every fraction of a second to outmaneuver your opponent. That is the case in most situations. Sometimes you might be able to see things coming but most other times you won’t. You don’t carry a gun to take chances. You carry your gun to WIN.
If you feel uncomfortable with your gun/gear and don’t 100% trust it, get something else. If you don’t trust yourself, train, train and TRAIN some more, until you do.
Mach is ON the money.
I will say that I believe carrying an unchambered gun with a loaded magazine is better than having no gun at all, but you DRASTICALLY hurt your chances of coming out on top.
I don’t know about you all but I don’t carry a gun to leave me and my family’s life to chances.
I will say that I believe carrying an unchambered gun with a loaded magazine is better than having no gun at all, but you DRASTICALLY hurt your chances of coming out on top.
I don’t know about you all but I don’t carry a gun to leave me and my family’s life to chances.
Yes, people accidentally drop their firearm and it goes bang due to a design flaw. If your firearm is one of the serial numbers affected, it is not safe:
BTW, my wife’s carry is a P320.
My strategy is to carry an empty pump shotgun. All I have to do is rack the slide and the bad guys go running. It works so well I do not even carry shells. Works every time.
I watched half the video and had to stop when they said he brushed his hand against the gun or holster…whichever one they said. Seems like a bunch of malarkey to me!
I bet he had an improperly sized cheap holster.
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I bet he had an improperly sized cheap holster.
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Option 1: You're bring spontaneously robbed at knifepoint or gunpoint. You ask the guy, hey, can you wait a second while i rack my slide back on my gun and shoot you. He laughs and kills you and takes everything you have, game over.
Option 2:
TIME.
Then you shouldn't own firearms. You're either safe or you're not.
Honestly, I think 99% of people that own firearms are so unsafe they have no business handling them. I've read enough unbelievable shit on this forum to believe that's the case here too.
If you don't trust yourself or your equipment to carry in the chamber, there's absolutely no reason to be carrying a lump of steel and plastic and lead on your hip thinking you're protected from anything. You can trot out every youtube rack-it-in-the-moment video you want, but I urge you: Go practice, with a timer, then become humbled, and either carry hot in a proper holster or stop kidding yourself by carrying.
Thats actually a terrible answer. Statement like that are the same reason the democrats want to remove guns from Americans.
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