Exactly. 18 tails and 17 heads mean the styling on this mule was last on their mind IMO.
Production car will look great I’m sure.
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Exactly. 18 tails and 17 heads mean the styling on this mule was last on their mind IMO.
Production car will look great I’m sure.
So why such high expectations for looks on a test mule car???? Some people......
Patience it will be here before we know it.
Christmas is almost here to and will be here before we know it. Hell its almost 10 years from now.....
Patience it will be here before we know it.
Christmas is almost here to and will be here before we know it. Hell its almost 10 years from now.....
How do i turn alerts for this crap off? What's this called so i can uncheck this?
Why the hell do they need another road course car? Mustang buyers, in large part, want an asphalt ripping, straight line monster. And thats what the GT500 is supposed to bring to the table.
My buddy is in the market for a 2020 GT500 like I am (I need to see the car first, but 70% ready).
He saw an ad in a car mag for a dealership in Cali taking orders at $115K for a 2020.
He called them and they confirmed they can order them yet, but you can have them order one for you (basically get in line) for $115K
LULZ
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He saw an ad in a car mag for a dealership in Cali taking orders at $115K for a 2020.
He called them and they confirmed they can order them yet, but you can have them order one for you (basically get in line) for $115K
LULZ
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Ford already confirmed it would by a MY 19...so there's that.
More like a 19.5 though.
I'm not disagreeing about the past. Dodge is doing straight line cars and Chevy is making corner carvers. I am just trying to figure out the design to see which market they are targeting.
The market they need to target is any market. I understand the need to make a great product (and I support any mfg that spends quality time to do so) but they are almost a little late to the party.
GT500 should have been first up, with the GT350 as the next project.
GT500 should have been first up, with the GT350 as the next project.
I have a feeling the 350 would have been a tough sell with a 500 already on the streets, even if they were set-up differently (i.e. road course vs street/strip).
The problem Ford has created is that they have yet to define a clear vision for the upcoming GT500. Not only is the typical enthusiast left scratching their head but it would appear as if Ford is unsure as well.
With a new CEO, Raj gone, and a company that is now moving in a completely different direction than ever before (electrification, hybridization, "autonomy", etc) there has never been more a of a need than now to speak clearly as to the goals Ford set forth when developing the GT500.
What is odd is that while Ford tried to distance itself from the Camaro with the GT350 it would appear is if the ZL1/1LE Camaro has reeled it back in. Ford has to be equal or greater than GM's pony car effort. But at what cost? Do they go balls out with a ride even worse than the DSSV equipped monster or can they provide a mag damped car that offers similar performance with a quick comfort selection? Or is Ford's focus a narrow one with an emphasis on going fast in a straight line only with mediocre handling/braking (which I highly doubt)?
Nobody is doubting the power we'll see from this car. The greatest unknown lies in the transmission. We have recently seen photos of what some are claiming to be manual transmission cars purported to be powered by the blown 5.2L engine. Are these actually GT350 mules? Are they (GT500) cars that engineers have quietly been working on against the wishes of upper management (I'd assume to be TR6060 variants - can't wait for the plethora of complaints on grinding, etc)? Based on the fact that the Cobra's/GT500's/GT350's in recent history have all been available with only one transmission I could see Ford doing the same here with a DCT. Huge investment on Tremec's side with the plant in Wixom and one would assume that contracts have long been signed for orders. Splitting GT500 production up between manual/DCT wouldn't seem to fit the model Ford has lived by for decades now (again, the need for some kind of clarity from Ford would be nice even if only a hint). If Ford were only going to be offering 2,500 DCT equipped GT500's (for example) per year then they really don't make sense at all from an economic standpoint. For economies of scale to have any impact I'd think Ford would have to put all their eggs in one basket here. Then again, if the DCT isn't proving to work as smoothly as Ford had hoped or isn't as robust as it needs to be behind a 700+ horsepower car....they better have a backup plan in order.
Ford has yet to show their hand, typical of OEM's in the past. But this isn't yesterday anymore and things move at a much more rapid pace. We need some detail Ford, however minor.
With a new CEO, Raj gone, and a company that is now moving in a completely different direction than ever before (electrification, hybridization, "autonomy", etc) there has never been more a of a need than now to speak clearly as to the goals Ford set forth when developing the GT500.
What is odd is that while Ford tried to distance itself from the Camaro with the GT350 it would appear is if the ZL1/1LE Camaro has reeled it back in. Ford has to be equal or greater than GM's pony car effort. But at what cost? Do they go balls out with a ride even worse than the DSSV equipped monster or can they provide a mag damped car that offers similar performance with a quick comfort selection? Or is Ford's focus a narrow one with an emphasis on going fast in a straight line only with mediocre handling/braking (which I highly doubt)?
Nobody is doubting the power we'll see from this car. The greatest unknown lies in the transmission. We have recently seen photos of what some are claiming to be manual transmission cars purported to be powered by the blown 5.2L engine. Are these actually GT350 mules? Are they (GT500) cars that engineers have quietly been working on against the wishes of upper management (I'd assume to be TR6060 variants - can't wait for the plethora of complaints on grinding, etc)? Based on the fact that the Cobra's/GT500's/GT350's in recent history have all been available with only one transmission I could see Ford doing the same here with a DCT. Huge investment on Tremec's side with the plant in Wixom and one would assume that contracts have long been signed for orders. Splitting GT500 production up between manual/DCT wouldn't seem to fit the model Ford has lived by for decades now (again, the need for some kind of clarity from Ford would be nice even if only a hint). If Ford were only going to be offering 2,500 DCT equipped GT500's (for example) per year then they really don't make sense at all from an economic standpoint. For economies of scale to have any impact I'd think Ford would have to put all their eggs in one basket here. Then again, if the DCT isn't proving to work as smoothly as Ford had hoped or isn't as robust as it needs to be behind a 700+ horsepower car....they better have a backup plan in order.
Ford has yet to show their hand, typical of OEM's in the past. But this isn't yesterday anymore and things move at a much more rapid pace. We need some detail Ford, however minor.
I have no doubt the GT500 will be offered with the same 10 speed auto they co-developed with Chevy that is offered in the ZL1.
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I am pretty excited about this myself... I just hope power and torque are more than comparable to the ZR1 and that they offer it with a manual. I think that they will offer the manual at this point but time will tell. They will also likely release some sort of track performance pack to compete with the ZL1 1LE. It will be interesting to see how this plays out without stepping on the GT350's toes
The wording in SEMA's release about "It was originally thought the production version would have a supercharged 5.2L flat-plane crank engine mated to a DCT transmission..." is in error. The GT500 engine will not have the crankshaft from the GT350's engine in it.
It would be the most asinine decision ever to offer this as an auto only car.
WHAT??? The GT500 won't have a crankshaft??????? Saves weight I guess.
I don’t think of DCT as auto and there’s questions on warranty implications and reliability of a 750hp engine with an 8000rpm redline. The auto may not be able to handle high rpm shifts and the DCT will be more reliable than a manual. I’m a die hard stick guy but this purchase will be DCT or 10A for me.
Cmon Ford throw us a bone
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But it is though....either youre depressing the clutch pedal and selecting the gear yourself, or youre not. Paddles dont dven remotely come close. For me there just isnt nearly the enjoyment level without that aspect and i lose virtually all interest in owning one at that point. And I could care less how many internet warriors tell me it would be faster with an auto (most of which will only dream at night about actually owning said car).
So if it comes AUTO only what would our aftermarket choice be for a Manual in that car?
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