NEW FORD F-150 POWER STROKE DIESEL GETS BEST-IN-CLASS 30 MPG

Very interesting! My guess is they stuck to the V6 config as it probably utilizes jigs and assembly tools common with the Ecoboost.

A lot of capability out of a half ton, a good option for diesel folks who dont want the size or capacity of a Super Duty. And Id wager its significantly less than the cost of a diesel 3/4 or full ton Super Duty.

Very impressive! I wonder what they will do once people start tuning them.

lexustech48 said:

Very interesting! My guess is they stuck to the V6 config as it probably utilizes jigs and assembly tools common with the Ecoboost.

A lot of capability out of a half ton, a good option for diesel folks who dont want the size or capacity of a Super Duty. And Id wager its significantly less than the cost of a diesel 3/4 or full ton Super Duty.

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They've had this 3.0 V6 for years in other vehicles in Europe.

Ecoboost makes full torque and more of it at 2500 rpm. With diesel filters and what not, and highly likely much more expensive option than gas, this engine makes zero sense. MPG in a city doesnt matter either, you're not hitting those numbers.

I would only be interested in a range 4 cylinder diesel that gets very good mpg.

edit - i forgot new ecoboosts, they moved the tq rating up to 3500 rpm and not 2500..probably due to stress. Ford still claims 90% of tq throughout the power band.

SID297 said:

Nope. I don't need more stuff.

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hell yes you do

Riddla said:

30 mpg in a stripped down bare bones regular cab xl truck. If you get the 4x4 it drops to 25 mpg highway. Now add the weight of a supercrew Lariat and above and I bet the mpg is close to the other gas engines

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Where is the proof?

Fwiw my f350 breaks 20 on the highway

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopn...diesel-2wd-gets-30-mpg-and-the-1825384321/amp

I read it on the f150 forum and i found an article. It comes down to configurations.
The 30mpg is a fleet only reg cab xl

Riddla said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopn...diesel-2wd-gets-30-mpg-and-the-1825384321/amp

I read it on the f150 forum and i found an article. It comes down to configurations.
The 30mpg is a fleet only reg cab xl

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I bet with the right configuration and deletes one could get close to 35MPG on the highway.

Riddla said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopn...diesel-2wd-gets-30-mpg-and-the-1825384321/amp

I read it on the f150 forum and i found an article. It comes down to configurations.
The 30mpg is a fleet only reg cab xl

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Thats insane. Sorry I argued.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/aut...esel-first-drive-review/ar-AAwp1NB?li=BBnb4R5

Here is a review

hmm... seems underwhelming, like they were having to find nice things to say about it.

Voltwings said:

hmm... seems underwhelming, like they were having to find nice things to say about it.

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They were comparing its towing characteristics to the Super Duty with over twice as much torque so yeah. I'm taking it with a grain of salt though since my 2012 F150 with a 5.0 (and SCT tuner w/5* tunes) performs better hauling a 20' gooseneck loaded with my 35 horse cabbed tractor, 900lb box blade, and welder than what they made that diesel F150 sound like. There's no way that package of their fantastic 10 speed trans and 440 lb-ft of low rpm torque is lesser performing than my 6 year old pickup. Heck, it has as much power as my parent's '97 Powerstroke; I don't remember ever complaining about a lack of power with it, even towing large livestock trailers or a 42' RV. Their 2016 Powerstroke is a whole nother animal, but for what the majority of the population uses pickups for, the current half ton offerings are more than capable and make more sense.

Have you ever tried parking a Super Duty dually in a crowded parking lot or heck, just tried to get around high traffic areas in one? I have; it is a pain in the rear. The big trucks have their place, and it's daily towing or loads exceeding the capacity of an easier to live with half ton.

03cobra#694 said:

Yuck

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Better than the international use of just a big filter/catalytic converter that gets clogged every year

Riddla said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/aut...esel-first-drive-review/ar-AAwp1NB?li=BBnb4R5

Here is a review

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After reading that it seems that the ecoboost 3.5L still is king. Seems the like new diesel is more on par with the EcoBoost 2.7L in towing.

I honestly think they are shooting more for MPGs than towing numbers, otherwise they would have built it so it has a higher tow rating than the 3.5 ecoboost. People/testers are just comparing it to the superduty and talking about towing because it's a diesel truck and diesel trucks are generally known for/built to tow.

I don't really get the logic of not having it be an option on XL/XLT trucks though (aside from fleet vehicles). I saw a video that said it is a premium engine and thus only offering it on their premium trucks, yet you can get the 3.5 on XL/XLT which is their current "premium" engine (aside from the Raptor motor).

me32 said:

After reading that it seems that the ecoboost 3.5L still is king. Seems the like new diesel is more on par with the EcoBoost 2.7L in towing.

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That seems to have always been the plan.

Balt21 said:

I honestly think they are shooting more for MPGs than towing numbers, otherwise they would have built it so it has a higher tow rating than the 3.5 ecoboost. People/testers are just comparing it to the superduty and talking about towing because it's a diesel truck and diesel trucks are generally known for/built to tow.

I don't really get the logic of not having it be an option on XL/XLT trucks though (aside from fleet vehicles). I saw a video that said it is a premium engine and thus only offering it on their premium trucks, yet you can get the 3.5 on XL/XLT which is their current "premium" engine (aside from the Raptor motor).

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It's probably due to production capability the first year. I wouldn't be surprised if they offered it on more models in the future.

SID297 said:

That seems to have always been the plan.



It's probably due to production capability the first year. I wouldn't be surprised if they offered it on more models in the future.

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How much more is the new engine gonna cost compared to the other options?

me32 said:

How much more is the new engine gonna cost compared to the other options?

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I haven't looked into pricing.

I have a feeling Ford is using this more as a production based mule. Not sure how publicized it is but by 2025 manufacturers are going to be needing to hit 50mpg average across their fleet of I remember correctly from some recent discussions at work.

If so I think we’re going to see a lot of alternatives coming in the next few years specially for trucks and suvs.

me32 said:

How much more is the new engine gonna cost compared to the other options?

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From a Motortrend article:

The option will add $4,000 to the Lariat trim price (which includes a standard 2.7-liter EcoBoost V-6), or $3,000 to the two higher trim levels (which get a 5.0-liter V-8 as standard). In both cases the diesel price represents a $2,400 premium over the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6. Fleet customers only will be able to order the engine on XL and XLT SuperCab or SuperCrew cabs with 6.5- or 8.0-foot beds (fleet pricing wasn’t shared).

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Here is a link to the article if anyone is interested: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/f-150/2018/2018-ford-f-150-power-stroke-diesel-first-look/